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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1680 on: September 26, 2018, 03:14:45 PM »
I meant your theories were based on no evidence whatsoever  *%87

Just like the trial then....  8(0(*

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1681 on: September 26, 2018, 03:14:50 PM »
There was clearly evidence against him, first and foremost was his confession, whether you accept that or not. Secondly, DNA evidence which was said to be a billion to one match... And probably things that he, the killer, could only tell police...

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1682 on: September 26, 2018, 03:16:44 PM »
Not again... It wasn't a billion to one... it was a partial...  And they cannot turn around all of the evidence in 48 hrs as Lyndsey Lennen stated in her Guardian Interview... She'd have an issue as Dr Vincent Tabak wasn't a suspect at that time...

You know the drill I am not going over it again....  ?{)(**

Oh ok, so you're a forensic scientist now. Should have told me, we could have cleared this up a long time ago...

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1683 on: September 26, 2018, 03:19:43 PM »
There was clearly evidence against him, first and foremost was his confession, whether you accept that or not. Secondly, DNA evidence which was said to be a billion to one match... And probably things that he, the killer, could only tell police...

According to DCI Phil Jones, Dr Vincent Tabak made a NO Comment statement... He only spoke of an issue around a mobile phone....

So who are you talking about when you say what The Killer told the Police???

Because nothing about an issue around a mobile phone made it to trial either....!!


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« Reply #1684 on: September 26, 2018, 03:20:35 PM »
 
Oh ok, so you're a forensic scientist now. Should have told me, we could have cleared this up a long time ago...

 (&^&

No... I am no-one  ?{)(**


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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1686 on: September 26, 2018, 03:23:49 PM »
According to DCI Phil Jones, Dr Vincent Tabak made a NO Comment statement... He only spoke of an issue around a mobile phone....

So who are you talking about when you say what The Killer told the Police???

Because nothing about an issue around a mobile phone made it to trial either....!!

You will be referring to the interview PRIOR to him being remanded in which he made no comment... He made the confession AFTER that whilst on remand.
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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1687 on: September 26, 2018, 03:25:28 PM »

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/09/21/opinion/the-dangers-of-dna-testing.html?nytapp=true

Oh well I guess the government should just go back through every case which were convicted on the basis of DNA and release them all on the basis of that article...

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1688 on: September 26, 2018, 03:27:16 PM »
Would you care to link the article regarding Lindsay Lennen? I can't seem to find it or at least your interpretation of it...

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1689 on: September 26, 2018, 03:31:07 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/18/vincent-tabak-no-comment-joanna-yeates

"The jury was told that Tabak made prepared statements when he was interviewed over three days after his arrest. But to most questions he simply replied: "No comment."

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1690 on: September 26, 2018, 03:31:19 PM »
Would you care to link the article regarding Lindsay Lennen? I can't seem to find it or at least your interpretation of it...

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/jan/17/csi-oxford-lgc-forensics

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Joanna Yeates
It started as a missing person inquiry on December 18, 2010, says Lindsey Lennen, a body fluids and DNA specialist (who, like many forensic scientists, says the work is "all I ever wanted to do"). The team started by examining items from Joanna's home, looking for foreign DNA. Then on Christmas Day, Yeates was found dead, on a country road.

A colleague went down to supervise the removal of her clothing and preserve any body fluids: "The body was frozen, so that was quite tricky." Under the media glare, the work was flat-out: clothing, swabs, suspect's clothing, all analysed and turned round in 48 hours.

"Eventually, we found something," Lennen says. "On swabs and tapes from her breasts, and tapes from three areas of her jeans. There were DNA components that matched one of the suspects, Vincent Tabak." But there wasn't enough, of enough quality, to evaluate – perhaps because of the high salt levels where the body was found, following heavy snowfall.

So the team deployed an LGC technique known as DNA SenCE, which purifies, concentrates and enhances otherwise unusable DNA: "We couldn't say whether the DNA was from saliva, or semen, or even touch. But we could say that the probability of it not being a match with Tabak was less than one in a billion."

With the killer's confession, Lennen's DNA evidence was not further tested. "It happens, in court," she says. "You get called biased, in the police's pay. You have to tell the truth, not stretch what you have. If you don't know which of two alternatives is more likely, you must say so."

Maybe this is where you get the idea that the match was a billion to one....



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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1691 on: September 26, 2018, 03:31:41 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/18/vincent-tabak-no-comment-joanna-yeates

"The jury was told that Tabak made prepared statements when he was interviewed over three days after his arrest. But to most questions he simply replied: "No comment."

Who prepared them???

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1692 on: September 26, 2018, 03:35:00 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/18/vincent-tabak-no-comment-joanna-yeates

Clegg suggested his client had simply said: "I'm going to plead guilty." He had already told his lawyers that he had killed Yeates, Clegg said, adding that Tabak was "a depressed and distressed man unburdening himself".

All this said in front of Tabak at court yet he said nothing to dispute it. Oh come on!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1693 on: September 26, 2018, 03:36:18 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/18/vincent-tabak-no-comment-joanna-yeates

Clegg suggested his client had simply said: "I'm going to plead guilty." He had already told his lawyers that he had killed Yeates, Clegg said, adding that Tabak was "a depressed and distressed man unburdening himself".

All this said in front of Tabak at court yet he said nothing to dispute it. Oh come on!

Plead Guilty to what exactly?? And why!! And why is Clegg suggesting it anyway??

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #1694 on: September 26, 2018, 03:37:27 PM »
Who prepared them???


Are you for real? or are you just winding me up? Seriously? Prepared statements are made by the client and the lawyer and are given to police prior to any questioning. Prepared statement are also made prior to any trial. The statements have to be signed by the suspect/defendant. Do not question me on this, it is fact!