I was reading about Peter Sutcliffe on wiki... Of course wiki can be inaccurate, so I do not know if this information is correct..
But, It stated that Peter Sutcliffe had worked for Baird Television... That made me think about Joanna Yeates and the name 'Operation Braid'. Had this been the reason for the name of the operation?
Is that what this was about... ??
Noel O'Gara has always insisted that there was more than one killer as they had 2 different samples of blood:
He had been eliminated twelve times by the police because he was blood group O... the Ripper was known to be blood group B.Throughout The Joanna Yeates Investigation, there has been a suggestion that a serial killer was in the frame, and the talk of several victims that were mentioned at the time adds to that... DCI Phil Jones stating (killers) as in plural...
Patricia Atkinson.
I followed her into the flat, she closed the curtains, and I hung my coat on the hook on the back of the door. She took her coat off and sat on the bed, her back was slightly towards me. I went up to her and hit her on the back of the head with the hammer. She fell off the bed onto the floor. I picked her up and put her back on the bed. That was the first time I had noticed the red blood, before it had always been dark, but this time in the light I saw lots of blood on the bed and on the floor. When she was on the floor I hit her another twice, or three times, before I put her on the bed. I pulled the bedclothes back before I put her on the bed."
The fact that this lady had been killed in her home, had always struck me as strange, as other victims had been attacked or killed outside..
Looking at where Patricia lived, it makes it very risky for Sutcliffe to attack this woman in her home, the possibility of witness's is far greater..
When she was on the floor I hit her another twice, or three times, before I put her on the bed. I pulled the bedclothes back before I put her on the bed."That doesn't make sense to me... Why are you picking the victim up from the floor and then spending the time to pull the bed covers back??
Was the idea of Operation Braid, to catch a serial killer??
I have never understood why anyone would remove Joanna Yeates body from her Flat to Longwood Lane.. I have never understood what advantage that would give Dr Vincent Tabak...
But apparently Dr Vincent Tabak isn't satisfied with just moving her once, he moves her several times, even taking her into his own flat, before dumping her on Longwood Lane...
Really.... why on earth would he do that?? Why on earth would anyone do that??
How would that be beneficial to him?... He doesn't know her... he is going away, he has all weekend, because he had apparently been informed that Greg was away...
If Joanna Yeates is Missing from that weekend, we have the Police at that Flat from day one... they never leave it yet, Joanna Yeates isn't found until days later 3 miles away from her home... Nothing at this point in time should connect Dr Vincent Tabak to Joanna Yeates... he has plenty of time to distance himself from the crime scene, and he had also been eliminated early on..
A whole weekend in which to make decisions, but an apparent panicked Dr Vincent Tabak, decided to share the crime scene with his flat and his car... He is supposed to be a very clever ,manipulating individual, yet his stupidity is endless according to the tale on the stand... There must be virtually no-one these days who isn't aware of DNA..
But.. that doesn't stop Dr Vincent Tabak spreading Joanna Yeates DNA and his own DNA everywhere... He had no connection to Joanna Yeates, so why move her?? Doesn't make sense... No physical evidence was ever produced at trial connecting Joanna Yeates to Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat, or Dr Vincent Tabak to Joanna Yeates Flat...
Now that is odd.... there should have been something from this violent assault...
Why would the Police be looking at Dr Vincent Tabak from late December?? He'd been eliminated... he didn't know the victim... he had only just returned from the America days earlier, he was studious, a bit geeky, he was polite, had friends, had no previous convictions of any type, was called Placid by DCI Phil Jones, had not as far as we know given any indication that he could possibly have had anything to do with his neighbours disappearance.. But for some obscure reason, the CPS in late December were wanting to build a case against him... At a time when he wasn't even in the country..
There could not at this point have been any solid evidence to connect him to Joanna Yeates Flat, or I would assume it would have been brought into evidence at trial.... yet it was NOT!
Was Operation Braid a sting to catch a serial killer? Did the Operation go too far?
I do not want to appear unkind, but I question whether or not Joanna Yeates did die? And it is a fair point if looking at this as some type of sting!
Which always brings me back to who is Dr Vincent Tabak and What is this case really about...
Edit... Did Sutcliffe actually write his account of what he did? Or did he just sign a statement?
The reason I ask is this part from the link....
When she was on the floor
I hit her another twice, or three times, before I put her on the bed. I pulled the bedclothes back before I put her on the bed."
Shouldn't that be twice more, another twice isn't grammatically correct.. And Caroline had pointed out that issue with the Guardian article... I'm just thinking about that now... Is that supposed to make him sound more Yorkshire?
Was the statement made from taped interviews? I would have thought that if it was from taped interviews then a Yorkshire man wouldn't pronounce the "H".. he would leave it out and the statement should be
'it 'er another twice'... or even...
it 'er anover twice'Just an observation...
Double Edit... A babby i’ t’hahse
by Emma O'Connell
Read by Stanley Ellis
http://www.yorkshiredialectsociety.org.uk/listen/My observations....
When he starts to speak to the audience , it is noticeable that he has learnt to speak clearer english, yet when he gets really into the poem, he slips into the dialect and doesn't pronounce the 'H' even in "hahse" because you wouldn't...
Reading the Yorkshire dialect is difficult, it is even harder to write it correctly.. but someone who was from Yorkshire would naturally drop into there dialect without any issue, even when reading it from a script..
I do not know if Stanley Ellis is a Yorkshireman... But that is the impression he gives me... A Yorkshireman who has learnt or is trying to speak the queens english...
http://www.yorkshiredialectsociety.org.uk/listen/Listen to the poem 'A babby i’ t’hahse'
And oddly enough, I find things as I write, and just found this... I do not know if it is the same person reading the poem, but the coincidences, he is from Bradford Yorkshire and was connected to the Ripper Inquiry... This Stanley Ellis you can read about here...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/obituaries/culture-obituaries/tv-radio-obituaries/6608130/Stanley-Ellis.htmlOldfield consulted Ellis, who played and replayed the tape, repeating key syllables, before pinning the voice down to the Castletown district of Sunderland, Tyne and Wear. Police swamped the area, but Ellis and his colleague, Jack Windsor Lewis, also an expert in linguistics, always doubted the authenticity of the tape, and were sceptical that the man who became known as "Wearside Jack" was responsible for the murders.
As I stated I do not know if the poem and the Stanley Ellis who has the article written about him are one in the same...
But I did detect that the reader of the poem was in fact a Yorkshireman... Whom had tried to reign in his accent in his every day life..
NB: I'm not trying to connect Stanley Ellis, that was just coincidence, when I found said article... I was looking for some Yorkshire dialect to show the difference in how something would sound or how an interview would be transcribed...
Stanley Ellis is just an example that was all.... It surprised me when I found the Telegraph article... And no assumptions should be made from my find...
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/16283351-the-real-yorkshire-ripperhttps://www.execulink.com/~kbrannen/victim10.htmhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutcliffe
