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Hi Nine, yes he’s an investigate journalist, ex policeman, he’s the guy that exposed Jimmy Saville.

Yes.....  No disrespect intended, but I do not understand how an Ex Policeman finds out so much, he must have many friends telling him whats happening around and abouts.

[Caroline]

Hi Nine, yes he’s an investigate journalist, ex policeman, he’s the guy that exposed Jimmy Saville.

I don't rate the man at all.

[Real justice]

Yes.....  No disrespect intended, but I do not understand how an Ex Policeman finds out so much, he must have many friends telling him whats happening around and abouts.

Im with Caroline on this, I don’t like or rate the man

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I don't rate the man at all.

Why's that caroline?  He confuses me to be honest...

Now I am wondering if it was he whom the police brought in as the profiler??  Is a Profiler and Criminologist the same thing??

Odd thing.. I thought he did just cases on Children, then I wondered after the trial if someone had mentioned to him about child abuse images and that was why he was there.... But it couldn't have been because he was on Canygne Road on the 24th December 2010, or at least should I say he did a report outside Canygne Road on that date....

I don't remember this report, I found it whilst I have been writing about the case on here...

I try to be accurate so I'll link it.. the getty clip states the 24th December 2010.. So I don't know the exact date the report was on TV..

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Missing person Joanna Yeates: Police release new CCTV pictures; Missing person Joanna Yeates: Police release new CCTV pictures
Mark Williams-Thomas (Criminologist) interview SOT

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/mark-williams-thomas-interview-sot-news-footage/659221138

There is snow there, so I am guessing the dates correct.....

So as a Criminologist, had the Police asked him there??  I just wondered...

What did he do in the Police Caroline?

[Real justice]

Don’t think it was him they bought in Nine, he gets his face anywhere.  this was the report

forensic clinical psychologist, who is understood to have taken part in several high-profile investigations, is helping Avon and Somerset Police, build up a better picture of the person responsible. So it rules MWT out

MWT was the one who reported celebrities to police, even Cliff Richard and we know what he went throught.

I think he was a family liaison officer at first, I think he gets info from his ex police mates?

There’s a site on Facebook dedicated to who, they don’t like him either Nine

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Don’t think it was him they bought in Nine, he gets his face anywhere.  this was the report

forensic clinical psychologist, who is understood to have taken part in several high-profile investigations, is helping Avon and Somerset Police, build up a better picture of the person responsible.

MWT was the one who reported celebrities to police, even Cliff Richard and we know what he went throught.

I think he was a family liaison officer at first, I think he gets info from his ex police mates?

There’s a site on Facebook dedicated to who, they don’t like him either Nine

Yes, I thought he'd be interested in this case, as I had seen a few of his reports on Getty  to do with this case... I had heard he was some sort of Investigator, but he wasn't interested.. I have posted about that before.

[Real justice]

Yes, I thought he'd be interested in this case, as I had seen a few of his reports on Getty  to do with this case... I had heard he was some sort of Investigator, but he wasn't interested.. I have posted about that before.

Looks like he was working for ITN at the time Nine.  He likes to push his Profile, but he isn’t a profiler

Here’s what someone wrote about him on Facebook
He's a 24ct fraud. Ex PC Mouthwash. Not ever a police detective & never in child protection! Surrey police constable from 1989-2000 & never led any inquiry as only DI or above leads an investigation. Biggest Narcissistic idiot who's being pulled off our TV screens at last :))

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Don’t think it was him they bought in Nine, he gets his face anywhere.  this was the report

forensic clinical psychologist, who is understood to have taken part in several high-profile investigations, is helping Avon and Somerset Police, build up a better picture of the person responsible.

MWT was the one who reported celebrities to police, even Cliff Richard and we know what he went throught.

I think he was a family liaison officer at first, I think he gets info from his ex police mates?

There’s a site on Facebook dedicated to who, they don’t like him either Nine

Real Justice I hope you don't mind, but I like links for the information... so I found a report so I'll link it..

The forensic clinical psychologist, who is understood to have taken part in several high-profile investigations, is helping Avon and Somerset Police, build up a better picture of the person responsible.

The profiler will assess all the evidence collected so far in an effort to offer some insight into the killer’s background mentality and motive.

Police use profilers to help narrow down their range of suspects.

But they have also proved useful in advising detectives in the best way to approach questioning, once a suspect has been arrested.

The role of criminal psychologists was made famous through the 1990s television series Cracker starring Robbie Coltrane.

The Senior Investigating Officer leading the Joanna Yeates murder inquiry, Detective Chief Inspector Phil Jones said: “We will use any specialists we feel can help in the investigation.”

It is almost three weeks since the 25-year-old landscape architect disappeared from her flat in the Clifton area of Bristol.

Miss Yeates's body was discovered around three miles away on Christmas Day. She had been strangled.

Police have revealed that she had been missing one sock when her snow-covered body was found on a secluded road in Failand, North Somerset.

The report confused me, CJ had been released, but was on bail... So did they bring the profiler in for CJ??





https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8241559/Joanna-Yeates-murder-detectives-call-in-criminal-profiler.html

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Looks like he was working for ITN at the time Nine.  He likes to push his Profile, but he isn’t a profiler

Here’s what someone wrote about him on Facebook
He's a 24ct fraud. Ex PC Mouthwash. Not ever a police detective & never in child protection! Surrey police constable from 1989-2000 & never led any inquiry as only DI or above leads an investigation. Biggest Narcissistic idiot who's being pulled off our TV screens at last :))

Oh wow.... someone doesn't like him...  Has he been pulled off TV??  Why's that??

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Oh wow.... someone doesn't like him...  Has he been pulled off TV??  I must admit the Jimmy Savile thing has always concerned me..  Dead men don't talk, or defend themselves, so that aspect bothered me... I never saw anything on TV about the Savile doc, but obviously had heard about it...

Whilst dead men may not speak, their money, whilst they lived, may have paid for a lot of silence.

[Real justice]

Real Justice I hope you don't mind, but I like links for the information... so I found a report so I'll link it..

The report confused me, CJ had been released, but was on bail... So did they bring the profiler in for CJ??





https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8241559/Joanna-Yeates-murder-detectives-call-in-criminal-profiler.html

At a guess I would say not Nine, they would bring him in to have a look while they were questioning so if he was released probably not.  With CJ, they could only hold him for so long without charging, obviously they didn’t have the evidence to charge him so they have to release him on bail.  Tabak they questioned him once they got the DNA result, but he was a suspect anyway, with strong evidence like DNA the CPS would have been involved straight away (usual cases like robbery, fighting and lower cases, it takes ages to go to cps, but murder is fast tracked) so the CPS would have given the police the go ahead.

Because they released CJ, the police bought the profiler in to assist and to try and leave no stone unturned, they work more with evidence done and left at the scene and see if there is a link to past crimes and other offenders,  trust me they see things the police miss.  If you have podcast, listen to Real Crime Profile, it’s my favourite. 

[Real justice]

If you read it Nine, it says evidence collected, this covers a wide range, I honestly don’t think he would have been bought in for CJ, if you read it, they advise on questioning once a suspect is arrested, as you point out CJ had been released.

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If you read it Nine, it says evidence collected, this covers a wide range, I honestly don’t think he would have been bought in for CJ, if you read it, they advise on questioning once a suspect is arrested, as you point out CJ had been released.

So what evidence collected pointed to Dr Vincent Tabak, that would need a profiler??  As no evidence was at trial, other than a statement on  stand... Why the need for a profiler then??

[Caroline]

Why's that caroline?  He confuses me to be honest...

Now I am wondering if it was he whom the police brought in as the profiler??  Is a Profiler and Criminologist the same thing??

Odd thing.. I thought he did just cases on Children, then I wondered after the trial if someone had mentioned to him about child abuse images and that was why he was there.... But it couldn't have been because he was on Canygne Road on the 24th December 2010, or at least should I say he did a report outside Canygne Road on that date....

I don't remember this report, I found it whilst I have been writing about the case on here...

I try to be accurate so I'll link it.. the getty clip states the 24th December 2010.. So I don't know the exact date the report was on TV..

https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/mark-williams-thomas-interview-sot-news-footage/659221138

There is snow there, so I am guessing the dates correct.....

So as a Criminologist, had the Police asked him there??  I just wondered...

What did he do in the Police Caroline?

Like Justice said 'he gets his face in everywhere. I just think people like him and David Wilson are more interested in being a celebrity. As to his rank, there seems to be some confusion over that but for whatever reason, some people seem to be going at great length to find out. Personally, I couldn't care less - I just think he (and DW) is a bit of a wind bag.

You might find this interesting - don't you just love the internet? 
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/mr_mark_williams_thomas_and_holm

[Caroline]

Real Justice I hope you don't mind, but I like links for the information... so I found a report so I'll link it..

The report confused me, CJ had been released, but was on bail... So did they bring the profiler in for CJ??





https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8241559/Joanna-Yeates-murder-detectives-call-in-criminal-profiler.html

They don't bring in a profiler for anyone, that would defeat the object. That's what happened to Colin Stagg! A profiler is supposed to develop a picture of a person unknown not make his profile fit a suspect.