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Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3615 on: April 10, 2019, 03:04:27 PM »
Admitting to something, doesn't mean someone has done something... There could be many reasons someone admits to a crime they haven't done.... The question is why?

And shouldn't the evidence support someones admittance, and not just their say so...!

It did - his DNA was on he naked skin.

Offline APRIL

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3616 on: April 10, 2019, 03:04:57 PM »
Therefore I have wasted my time....  and any possible MOJ that anyone has concerns over, will also be wasting their time, by what you say...

If the real evidence is Missing..eg.. The CCTV that DS Mark Saunders speaks of, and any and all of the witness statements that were made online... As I do not have the ability to see these, I cannot bring these as evidence, but I can show that they apparently existed.. If Dr Vincent Tabak or his family are not speaking about this, I cannot bring that either...  I can show the video's of The Yeates talking of washing piles of clothes on entering Joanna yeates flat... I can show video of CJ talking of speaking to Dr Vincent Tabak that weekend....

If it has taken me this long to find out all of the information I have found and  posted about, how was it possible to arrest Dr Vincent Tabak within days of CJ being released, when there was no evidence.... Surely they would need to check information etc.....

All I keep saying is this case makes no sense.... And I understand no-one else but a few ever have questioned this....

I will stay with my belief, that Dr Vincent Tabak is innocent, until someone proves otherwise, and with the belief that this case makes no sense....

And if you think I talk crap and nonsense , then so be it....


Edit..... Where was "THE EVIDENCE" at trial?? 

Oops... There wasn't any....  All the forensics from Joanna Yeates and Dr Vincent Tabaks flat apparently Missing... No witness's whom had seen Dr Vincent Tabak that weekend were at trial either..... Odd that...!!


If the convicted's admission of guilt isn't enough by way of evidence, nothing else will be. I can't think why you're surprised witnesses to the sighting of Tabac weren't present. Their presence wasn't required. The judge wasn't in need of victim statements to help him make up his mind about the sentence he handed down, Tabac had admitted guilt. You admit to having wasted your time but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go. In fact, you seem not to possess the humility to accept Tabac's own word for it that he's guilty.

Offline [...]

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3617 on: April 10, 2019, 03:05:26 PM »
There wasn't any? There was the DNA evidence, the evidence from his computer and oh ........... his admission. The only thing missing is a video of his actually committing the crime!


Oh Yes.... And the CCTV of the comings and goings on Canygne Road from that weekend, that DS Mark Saunders speaks of.... One that should show if Joanna Yeates actually reached home....

Oh I forgot, Colin Port states that The Hophouse pub, was the last known sighting of Joanna Yeates...

Offline APRIL

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3618 on: April 10, 2019, 03:08:55 PM »
Admitting to something, doesn't mean someone has done something... There could be many reasons someone admits to a crime they haven't done.... The question is why?

And shouldn't the evidence support someones admittance, and not just their say so...!


By that, it seems as if you'd be prepared to release every convict who admits their guilt just in case there was another reason for their admission.

Offline Real justice

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3619 on: April 10, 2019, 03:12:17 PM »
Admitting to something, doesn't mean someone has done something... There could be many reasons someone admits to a crime they haven't done.... The question is why?

And shouldn't the evidence support someones admittance, and not just their say so...!
So, a family member of yours gets murdered, the police find the culprit through DNA being on the body, they find blood in the car, he’s a next door neighbour, he likes child porno and snuff videos resembling how your family member got killed, the culprit admits he killed your family member, you would turn around and say, I don’t believe him 😂😂😂😂.   

Offline [...]

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3620 on: April 10, 2019, 03:13:50 PM »

If the convicted's admission of guilt isn't enough by way of evidence, nothing else will be. I can't think why you're surprised witnesses to the sighting of Tabac weren't present. Their presence wasn't required. The judge wasn't in need of victim statements to help him make up his mind about the sentence he handed down, Tabac had admitted guilt. You admit to having wasted your time but like a dog with a bone you refuse to let it go. In fact, you seem not to possess the humility to accept Tabac's own word for it that he's guilty.

Evidence supporting said admission of guilt.... 

If there is evidence to the contrary to the statement made, then should an admission of guilt be accepted.... I would say not....

If we cannot establish if Joanna yeates actually reached home, why would we accept that Dr Vincent Tabak killed her there??

Because he said so???  Not good enough (imo)

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3621 on: April 10, 2019, 03:15:48 PM »

Oh Yes.... And the CCTV of the comings and goings on Canygne Road from that weekend, that DS Mark Saunders speaks of.... One that should show if Joanna Yeates actually reached home....

Oh I forgot, Colin Port states that The Hophouse pub, was the last known sighting of Joanna Yeates...

Just because there is CCTV in a street, it doesn't mean that EVERY angle is covered. If people had personal CCTV camera's they aren't allowed to point them at the street - they are to capture comings and goings on their own property!

There isn't any question of JY not returning to her flat, he keys were there, her phone, her coat and the receipt for the shopping she was seen carrying. Your problem is that you rely on gossip and other conspiracy theorists for your infomation and as Jane said, you even refuse to believe the 'intelligent' Mr Tabak.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3622 on: April 10, 2019, 03:16:55 PM »

By that, it seems as if you'd be prepared to release every convict who admits their guilt just in case there was another reason for their admission.

Or maybe they don't exist at all and prisons are actually empty?  &%%6

Offline Real justice

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3623 on: April 10, 2019, 03:17:40 PM »
Evidence supporting said admission of guilt.... 

If there is evidence to the contrary to the statement made, then should an admission of guilt be accepted.... I would say not....

If we cannot establish if Joanna yeates actually reached home, why would we accept that Dr Vincent Tabak killed her there??

Because he said so???  Not good enough (imo)
Her coat was at home, her phone her keys, the Tesco receipt her boots, you haven’t got a argument, your going round in circles and it’s not sinking in.

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3624 on: April 10, 2019, 03:18:03 PM »
Evidence supporting said admission of guilt.... 

If there is evidence to the contrary to the statement made, then should an admission of guilt be accepted.... I would say not....

If we cannot establish if Joanna yeates actually reached home, why would we accept that Dr Vincent Tabak killed her there??

Because he said so???  Not good enough (imo)

We KNOW for a FACT she reached home  @)(++(* @)(++(*

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3625 on: April 10, 2019, 03:20:06 PM »
So, a family member of yours gets murdered, the police find the culprit through DNA being on the body, they find blood in the car, he’s a next door neighbour, he likes child porno and snuff videos resembling how your family member got killed, the culprit admits he killed your family member, you would turn around and say, I don’t believe him 😂😂😂😂.

Bit flimsy that mind Justice  @)(++(* @)(++(* @)(++(*

Offline [...]

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3626 on: April 10, 2019, 03:21:19 PM »
Just because there is CCTV in a street, it doesn't mean that EVERY angle is covered. If people had personal CCTV camera's they aren't allowed to point them at the street - they are to capture comings and goings on their own property!

There isn't any question of JY not returning to her flat, he keys were there, her phone, her coat and the receipt for the shopping she was seen carrying. Your problem is that you rely on gossip and other conspiracy theorists for your infomation and as Jane said, you even refuse to believe the 'intelligent' Mr Tabak.

DS Mark Saunders stated that cars were up and down the street, and people were Milling about....

But if as you have just pointed out that people are not allowed to take CCTV of the street and people Milling about, then that would answer the question as to why we haven't seen the CCTV...

We agree to disagree, that is simple to see, and I will stick with what I believe.... It shouldn't matter to anyone in any case....


Offline [...]

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3627 on: April 10, 2019, 03:23:44 PM »
We KNOW for a FACT she reached home  @)(++(* @)(++(*

How do you know for a FACT!!

What evidence other than keys, coat and phone states otherwise as proof she arrived home??  It had been suggested that someone could have returned those items....

So what was left behind Caroline??  What was it that beyond a doubt shows that Joanna Yeates reached home??

Offline Real justice

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3628 on: April 10, 2019, 03:26:20 PM »
Evidence supporting said admission of guilt.... 

If there is evidence to the contrary to the statement made, then should an admission of guilt be accepted.... I would say not....

If we cannot establish if Joanna yeates actually reached home, why would we accept that Dr Vincent Tabak killed her there??

Because he said so???  Not good enough (imo)
You don’t accept evidence from the prosecution and you don’t accept evidence from the defence or Tabak himself, now we are getting somewhere 😂😂😂

Offline Caroline

Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3629 on: April 10, 2019, 03:27:46 PM »
How do you know for a FACT!!

What evidence other than keys, coat and phone states otherwise as proof she arrived home??  It had been suggested that someone could have returned those items....

So what was left behind Caroline??  What was it that beyond a doubt shows that Joanna Yeates reached home??

Some idiot might have suggested someone else returned the items but it's a bonkers suggestion.