The Defence Will State Their Case

[Caroline]

I have no idea about anything anymore Jixy....  No offence, but............

And you never will.

[Caroline]

What exactly are you referring too Jixy.....

I give up, I try and bring points to the forum, and all I get is mind games....

My heads mashed....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPd_awQuH4o

Denial is offensive! Some people deny that the Holocaust ever took place and it is deeply offensive to most decent people because it's a denial of all those who suffered and died at the hands of psychopaths and the legacy of the aftermath - see the similarity?

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Denial is offensive! Some people deny that the Holocaust ever took place and it is deeply offensive to most decent people because it's a denial of all those who suffered and died at the hands of psychopaths and the legacy of the aftermath - see the similarity?

I have heard that people have denied the holocaust, I do not subscribe to that theory personally... 

It's fine... I tried I failed... I can do no more....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYjSpUqYMwQ

[mrswah]

I have removed several off topic posts. Please keep posts relevant, or don't post! Thanks.

[Real justice]

I have removed several off topic posts. Please keep posts relevant, or don't post! Thanks.

Thanks for that mrswah, talking about private sex parts like Billy does will only attract the wrong people to the forum, who knows with the amount of Trolls out there.   

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Countdown to Murder:
25:08 of video we get this image..



Now we have never seen the text messages Dr Vincent Tabak sent, and there is no way of knowing whether or not that image is a proper depiction of the text...

The media have done the same text with just V XX, but is that right??

It's an important detail, an extremely important detail....

The express had the exclusive, where Dr Vincent Tabak apparently gave an interview and said he wasn't at Canygne Road on the night she went Missing....

As for news, the Express publishes its brief interview with Mr Tabak:

“I only come back here at weekends for now with all the upset. I wasn’t here on the night she went missing, I was away and I don’t know anyone who saw or heard anything. It’s very upsetting that something like this has happened. This is a nice, safe, friendly area.

“The feeling around here is not a nice one now, it’s as if the area has been blighted by what happened. We are all very sad about it, and although I didn’t know Miss Yeates, I am deeply saddened by what ­happened.”

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8060.msg525416#msg525416

Now the reason for me trying to clarify what was in the text message is because:

At its core is the 'XXX' symbol, which is actually three vertical St. Andrew's Crosses, not (as some people assume) shorthand for the Red Light District. For the Amsterdam coat of arms, the three crosses are in white, atop a red shield with a black pale.

So three XXX = Amsterdam....

Therefore I pose this possibility... Dr Vincent Tabak was in Amsterdam, and the XXX stood for Amsterdam.. and not XXX as in kisses

Sometimes things are lost in translation.....

Edit... Let's not forget, Dr Vincent Tabak is a Dutch National !

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And I would now like to go a little further....

"Missing you loads I'm bored V XXX'

We all have been taught to assume that "V" stands for Vincent.... We assume it must be so because our brain is telling it is so....

We say, it must be.... It has to be, there can be no other explanation for it....

Is "Missing you loads V XXX " only part of the text?? is it all of the text??

Is the text sending messages of love or is it just saying where he is....





This review shows it was open in 2010:

LempoJoo
London, United Kingdom
812
Boutique hotel with bulk quality
Review of Hotel V Frederiksplein
Reviewed 12 July 2010
I was recommended this hotel by my local friend, who lived close by. The hotel looked very nice in their website and since the location was good, I booked it. Thou the lobby looks nice and designed, that's where it ends. Here's a quick rundown of the hotel: - There is no A/C in the hotel anywhere which is a problem when the temp goes above +24c (as it did during my stay). One window opened about 30cm, but there is a tram stop outside the hotel and the trams ring bells when approaching the stop, so it will wake you up. - My room (302) had a double bed, and abou 80cm space around it, nothing else. If you have 1 or 2 big suitcases, there's no other space to open them up except the bed, on which you obviously can't keep them throughout the night - The blackout blinds are positioned so, that sunlight will shine between straight to your face when you're lying on the bed. One of the blind was very difficult get all the way down, as someone talented decorator had installed a coat hanger so that it blocks partially the blind. - There is no minibar in the room, nor there is no ice maker on the hallway. You can get ice from the hotel bar, but only in a very small ashtray type of dish. Forget ice buckets. - TV has basic channels...More

Date of stay: July 2010

https://www.tripadvisor.co.uk/ShowUserReviews-g188590-d967157-r70630184-Hotel_V_Frederiksplein-Amsterdam_North_Holland_Province.html

Is Dr Vincent Tabak actually telling someone... I cannot say if it is Tanja or not... is he telling someone that is is staying in the Hotel "V" in Amsterdam??

Is he saying:

Missing you loads I'm bored... Hotel V in Amsterdam... meaning he is actually Missing the Hotel, and had fun on his stay there...


We have many choices...  Without knowing the circumstances and and explanation of what the text meant, we can assume anything...

So If Dr Vincent Tabak was away.... Was he in the "V" Hotel in Amsterdam??

It's a possibility... anything is a possibility...

So what we have been lead to believe is a loving text message, may simple mean, he's bored in the Hotel V in Amsterdam...

[Myster]

LOL!!!!... are you still here?

[Real justice]

LOL!!!!... are you still here?

Yes Billy is very accident prone

[Caroline]

Countdown to Murder:
25:08 of video we get this image..



Now we have never seen the text messages Dr Vincent Tabak sent, and there is no way of knowing whether or not that image is a proper depiction of the text...

The media have done the same text with just V XX, but is that right??

It's an important detail, an extremely important detail....

The express had the exclusive, where Dr Vincent Tabak apparently gave an interview and said he wasn't at Canygne Road on the night she went Missing....

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8060.msg525416#msg525416

Now the reason for me trying to clarify what was in the text message is because:

So three XXX = Amsterdam....

Therefore I pose this possibility... Dr Vincent Tabak was in Amsterdam, and the XXX stood for Amsterdam.. and not XXX as in kisses

Sometimes things are lost in translation.....

Edit... Let's not forget, Dr Vincent Tabak is a Dutch National !

And XXXX = Lager
https://www.beermenus.com/beers/89018-castlemaine-xxxx-lager/label

 

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And XXXX = Lager
https://www.beermenus.com/beers/89018-castlemaine-xxxx-lager/label

 

 

Is it lager from Amsterdam?? 

[Caroline]

Is it lager from Amsterdam?? 

No, it's from XXXXX 

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Yes Billy is very accident prone

Again... It was something that the Dutch brother in-law did today, that brought me back to the text message... So I'd agree, I am accident prone in that respect....

But thinking of mobile phones, we do not even know what type of Mobile phone Dr Vincent Tabak owned?  Did he use a different one when away??

Back in 2010 not everyone used smart phones with a full keyboard... It could have easily have been a phone like this:



That Dr Vincent Tabak used.... Were you have to press a button multiple times to get a letter or a number etc...
So the idea that the text message, was just a quick message, stating were he was, is extremely plausible..

Also back then many people had to pay for their text messages, especially when texting from abroad, and I believe that they were quite expensive...


Edit.... Not only were they expensive, you were limited to the number of characters per text...

[Caroline]

Again... It was something that the Dutch brother in-law did today, that brought me back to the text message... So I'd agree, I am accident prone in that respect....

But thinking of mobile phones, we do not even know what type of Mobile phone Dr Vincent Tabak owned?  Did he use a different one when away??

Back in 2010 not everyone used smart phones with a full keyboard... It could have easily have been a phone like this:



That Dr Vincent Tabak used.... Were you have to press a button multiple times to get a letter or a number etc...
So the idea that the text message, was just a quick message, stating were he was, is extremely plausible..

Also back then many people had to pay for their text messages, especially when texting from abroad, and I believe that they were quite expensive...


Edit.... Not only were they expensive, you were limited to the number of characters per text...

I think it's more likely that he was saying he was bored looking at porn and the XXX's stood for that. After all, we know that the nasty little tick enjoyed looking at filthy, nasty porn and was convicted of such. 

[Real justice]

Countdown to Murder:
25:08 of video we get this image..



Now we have never seen the text messages Dr Vincent Tabak sent, and there is no way of knowing whether or not that image is a proper depiction of the text...

The media have done the same text with just V XX, but is that right??

It's an important detail, an extremely important detail....

The express had the exclusive, where Dr Vincent Tabak apparently gave an interview and said he wasn't at Canygne Road on the night she went Missing....

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8060.msg525416#msg525416

Now the reason for me trying to clarify what was in the text message is because:

So three XXX = Amsterdam....

Therefore I pose this possibility... Dr Vincent Tabak was in Amsterdam, and the XXX stood for Amsterdam.. and not XXX as in kisses

Sometimes things are lost in translation.....

Edit... Let's not forget, Dr Vincent Tabak is a Dutch National !

Nope, they had him on CCTV in Asda, then he picked Tanja up later.