Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.

[Erngath]

Actually, it was.

I don't believe it was.
Only the person he was speaking to would be able to give a first hand account of the conversation because only that person was privy to ALL the conversation.
Not just one side of a conversation overheard on a mobile phone on a balcony above him.

[Erngath]

Nope.  He heard what he heard.

Did he hear what the other person on the.phone was saying?

[Venturi Swirl]

Nope.  He heard what he heard.

What did he hear exactly?

[ShiningInLuz]

Oh God, don't you start.   

As he did not report that person C had said this, but reported it it it first person, it's not hearsay.

[ShiningInLuz]

I don't believe it was.
Only the person he was speaking to would be able to give a first hand account of the conversation because only that person was privy to ALL the conversation.
Not just one side of a conversation overheard on a mobile phone on a balcony above him.

A one sided convo is not hearsay.  It's simply a one sided convo.

[Venturi Swirl]

As he did not report that person C had said this, but reported it it it first person, it's not hearsay.

So if what he reported is a first person account of what Gerry said, how would you describe Gerry's account of what he actually said?

[Brietta]

They do not exactly mirror Madeleine's disappearance,its not been established what happened yet.

The facts relating to Alesha's abduction mirror exactly Madeleine's disappearance.  Which one do you disagree with?

There were no witnesses  ... I'll give you that one.  Although mibbes aye, mibbes naw ... a CCTV image of Alesha being carried V Jane Tanner's eye witness account?

No forced entry ✔
No forensic evidence of an intruder ✔
Two children missing from their beds ✔

[Brietta]

You're learning I see.

Madeleine's disappearance has a much more factual tone to it.

A stranger was convicted of having entered the house
A stranger was convicted of lifting a child from her bed
There was DNA linking the murderer with the murdered child
There was CCTV footage of the murderer coming and going at the time

There is nothing that really exactly mirrors Madeleine's disappearance other than in your imagination.

You have to imagine a stranger entered the apartment.
You have to imagine a stranger lifted a child from her bed.
You have to imagine there was translation errors in the Gerry's two completely different accounts of the last time he seen his missing child alive.


It's not against the law to have a vivid imagination, good for those who do. 

There is absolutely nothing imaginary about Alesha's abduction and murder.

[ShiningInLuz]

What did he hear exactly?

Presumably what he gave in his statement.

[Eleanor]

Presumably what he gave in his statement.

Presumably, eh?

[Venturi Swirl]

Presumably what he gave in his statement.

It wasn't very precise was it?  Give me your definition of hearsay please.

[ShiningInLuz]

So if what he reported is a first person account of what Gerry said, how would you describe Gerry's account of what he actually said?

Kindly provide Gerry's account.  Then I will give you my evaluation.

 

[Venturi Swirl]

Kindly provide Gerry's account.  Then I will give you my evaluation.

 

WE can't because there is only hearsay evidence to go on, isn't there...? 

[Erngath]

A one sided convo is not hearsay.  It's simply a one sided convo.

But the "overhearer" has no idea of what is being said by the person whom they cannot hear.
So it  is not a true account of a conversation.

[Erngath]

Dearie dearie me. I don't think you grasp what Graham Mackenzie claims he heard Gerry say. Or rather I do think you grasp it and you're doing the same old try to discredit the witness routine. It doesn't matter who it is, any witness who states things the supporters don't like the hear and it's the old discredit the witness routine.

What can you envisage Gerry could have been talking about that would have lead Graham Mackenzie to believe that Gerry was telling the other person that he knew there were paedophile gangs operating in Portugal? 7

Give us a chance to grasp your answer to that please?

What did the other person on the phone say to Gerry?