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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #720 on: May 13, 2017, 11:35:46 AM »

Given that one has to be about 60 to remember the utter mismanagement by Labour and the Unions in the late 1970s, not forgetting Michael Foots 'longest suicide note in history' manifesto, and then the last shambles during Brown'sterm of office.

The unfettered huge immigration deliberately encouraged as a political tool for Labour, how can anyone think that Corbyn, who avowedly wants to return the country to the 1970s, stands any chance ?

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #721 on: May 13, 2017, 05:42:55 PM »
Given that one has to be about 60 to remember the utter mismanagement by Labour and the Unions in the late 1970s, not forgetting Michael Foots 'longest suicide note in history' manifesto, and then the last shambles during Brown'sterm of office.

The unfettered huge immigration deliberately encouraged as a political tool for Labour, how can anyone think that Corbyn, who avowedly wants to return the country to the 1970s, stands any chance ?

Well, I am over 60, and I look back on the 1970s with some nostalgia-------I was young then!!

It really wasn't that bad----mind you, that isn't to say I'm going to be voting for Corbyn!

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« Reply #722 on: June 09, 2017, 06:33:32 AM »
Where's the massive defeat for Corbyn and Labour then?  @)(++(*
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« Reply #723 on: June 09, 2017, 08:14:01 AM »
Where's the massive defeat for Corbyn and Labour then?  @)(++(*

It looks like many young voters came out unexpectedly.

The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #724 on: June 09, 2017, 11:41:43 AM »
Where's the massive defeat for Corbyn and Labour then?  @)(++(*

No "massive" defeat for JC just another defeat for Labour  8((()*/
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« Reply #725 on: June 09, 2017, 02:30:31 PM »
No "massive" defeat for JC just another defeat for Labour  8((()*/


....and the Cons without a majority and no mandate.
The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

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« Reply #726 on: June 09, 2017, 03:42:33 PM »
It looks like many young voters came out unexpectedly.

It looks like a 68 year old with 'old Labour' values and policies was able to inspire young people to take an interest and vote. Who'd a thunk it? Not the media and not the 'experts' they trot out.

I don't really care at my age, but I'm glad people are realising that they don't have to believe what MP's tell them any more. They have a clear choice now, not just more of the same with a different label.
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« Reply #727 on: June 10, 2017, 12:39:38 AM »
It looks like many young voters came out unexpectedly.

Well their votes were effectively bought, weren't they?

Corbyn promised free University .. so no debts for the students, nor financial pain for the parents.  Very clever move, he grabbed two age groups at the same time


This Country has mind boggling debt already, thanks Mr Blair. 
Gawd knows who we would be selling ourselves to if Jeremy Corbyn got in with all his expendature.   His financial expert Diane Abbott hasn't even bothered to do her sums and doesn't know how much all the give aways will cost.


I am of the opinion that we are in such debt now that despite all austerity measures, it will be unlikely that we will ever, ever, be able to pay our debts off %#&%4%

Someone with expert financial and political knowledge, please come in and cheer me up

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« Reply #728 on: June 10, 2017, 12:45:46 AM »
Well their votes were effectively bought, weren't they?

Corbyn promised free University .. so no debts for the students, nor financial pain for the parents.  Very clever move, he grabbed two age groups at the same time


This Country has mind boggling debt already, thanks Mr Blair. 
Gawd knows who we would be selling ourselves to if Jeremy Corbyn got in with all his expendature.   His financial expert Diane Abbott hasn't even bothered to do her sums and doesn't know how much all the give aways will cost.


I am of the opinion that we are in such debt now that despite all austerity measures, it will be unlikely that we will ever, ever, be able to pay our debts off %#&%4%

Someone with expert financial and political knowledge, please come in and cheer me up

I think you are spot on Sadie, Jeremy Corbyn has bought votes and would bankrupt the country if he ever came to power...God forbid!

Theresa May on the other hand did herself no favours recently with her latest attacks on pensioners and those on low income, she only has herself to blame for what has now happened.

The UK is now staring down the barrel of an imminent EU exit with a PM who will lead a hung Parliament, a worse scenario no-one could ever contemplate.  God help us all indeed!!
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« Reply #729 on: June 10, 2017, 09:17:03 AM »
Why all the despondency? Politicians have predicted doom and gloom for years in order to make us accept their unpopular policies, but we're all still here living our lives.

Whatever people think of Corbyn's political aims or methods he got his message across despite the herculean efforts made to discredit him. People heard, approved and voted Labour. He judged it perfectly.

On the other hand May did not get her message across. She made a huge error of judgement and will pay the price before 2017 is out imo.

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« Reply #730 on: June 10, 2017, 09:22:12 AM »
Why all the despondency? Politicians have predicted doom and gloom for years in order to make us accept their unpopular policies, but we're all still here living our lives.

Whatever people think of Corbyn's political aims or methods he got his message across despite the herculean efforts made to discredit him. People heard, approved and voted Labour. He judged it perfectly.

On the other hand May did not get her message across. She made a huge error of judgement and will pay the price before 2017 is out imo.

She will pay the price but so will the rest of us?  She needed a strong hand in order to negotiate Brexit but now she looks fragile and weak.  Her enforced cosy arrangement with Ulster's DUP is bound to end in tears and do absolutely nothing for cross community relations in the province.  What a bloody mess!
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« Reply #731 on: June 10, 2017, 09:24:41 AM »
Well the referendum comes down to Cameron.

This latest farce comes down to May's ego.

She will have to go, and it won't be in 5 years time.
The McCanns were solely responsible for their childcare arrangements and there is no one else to blame.

S and S, two more amateurs making money from a disappeared child, and clearly without a clue.

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« Reply #732 on: June 10, 2017, 10:37:32 AM »
She will pay the price but so will the rest of us?  She needed a strong hand in order to negotiate Brexit but now she looks fragile and weak.  Her enforced cosy arrangement with Ulster's DUP is bound to end in tears and do absolutely nothing for cross community relations in the province.  What a bloody mess!

I don't know if the population will be affected adversely by all this or not. As a pensioner I noticed the Tories attention turning towards me to feed their obsession with cuts and I'm pleased that isn't going to happen.

May's abrasive attitude towards Europe may not have been the best way to enter Brexit negotiations.

There is, as yet, no arrangement with the DUP, and it's extremely unpopular.
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Re: Jeremy Corbyn for PM!!
« Reply #733 on: June 10, 2017, 04:33:59 PM »
The wider electorate should learn there is no such thing as a free lunch.
When I turned sixty I was suddenly entitled to free prescriptions and two hundred squids as a heating allowance all paid for by the state at a time when I was working, paying tax at the higher rate, and had no dependants. It was like having a two grand pay rise. Being a good old socialist boy I said " 'old up chief this isn't right someone else should have this I don't need it. See the accent on the "need". Being realistic the 200 quid heating allowance wouldn't even make a dent in my annual expenditure on fishing permits but to some frail octogenerian less fortunate than I it means keeping warm and lit up for two months in the winter and they should have it. "Give it to charity then if you feel that strongly about it" came the retort.....yeah right Nobby riiiight. The state should not expect me to seek out that person; the state should  never have given me the bloody money in the first place as there was no justification.
No! I think it should be means tested and dealt with properly at source provided there is a net benefit to the exchequer after proper administration of the system. At forty eight I was a single parent when there was no state hand out for child care, it took the fat end of 15% off the  top line of my salary; don't whinge that's the hand you've been dealt play it. With all the bloody hand outs going on I doubt anyone on much less than 40k pa is actually a net contributor to the exchequer by way of direct taxation. As the number of income tax payers is declining then there are four options. Do less in the state sector, increase direct taxation levels, increase sneaky taxes or borrow. No political party will ever hold its hand up to that little lot so they will do the next best thing .... lie.
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« Reply #734 on: June 11, 2017, 12:58:03 PM »
Most of us were wrong when we said Corbyn was unelectable. That includes me.

I am not surprised that the young people came out in droves to vote for him. Whatever we might think about left wing governments, our young people have never experienced one.

Perhaps people are getting fed up with "middle of the road" governments----and they want to see either Right Wing, or Left Wing????