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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #465 on: January 28, 2019, 01:31:07 PM »
Which, it is alleged, was due to 'misunderstanding the evidence'. It is that which I require a cite for;which evidence was misunderstood?

The dog evidence is the main one... The idea that the dogs have a 100% record.... Untrue... The idea that the alerts signalled the past presence if a cadaver..untrue.... I quoted a Guardian article where almeida said the main evidence against the mccanns were the dogs... They have no evidential value
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #466 on: January 28, 2019, 01:41:17 PM »
 Inspector Tavares de Almeida said he believed the British child had died in her family's apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz on the day she went missing. He told the court the main evidence for this was the findings of British police sniffer dogs sent to Portugal to examine the flat. The McCanns' lawyer, Isabel Duarte, challenged this claim, arguing that the results from sniffer dogs did not constitute proof and were not allowed as evidence in the case.

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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #467 on: January 28, 2019, 01:56:03 PM »
We all know that Madeleine was abducted for some reason that is not yet known.  There is no other logical explanation.  But if some people want to go on trying to find ways in which to involve her parents then that is okay by me.

I have never been wild about Colin Sutton because he tried to make it all about him.  But I thought Martin Clune was wonderful.

No other explanation  @)(++(* They will explain the 12+ million. Obviously it's a special case.
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #468 on: January 28, 2019, 02:17:45 PM »
That result dies not point the DNA being maddies... That's, quite untrue

That's a matter of opinion, not of fact.
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #469 on: January 28, 2019, 02:27:51 PM »
Inspector Tavares de Almeida said he believed the British child had died in her family's apartment in the Algarve resort of Praia da Luz on the day she went missing. He told the court the main evidence for this was the findings of British police sniffer dogs sent to Portugal to examine the flat. The McCanns' lawyer, Isabel Duarte, challenged this claim, arguing that the results from sniffer dogs did not constitute proof and were not allowed as evidence in the case.

Please provide a cite for that.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #471 on: January 28, 2019, 02:37:01 PM »
That's a matter of opinion, not of fact.

It isn't... It's a scientific fact... The DNA did not point to Maddie... It was inconclusive..

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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #472 on: January 28, 2019, 02:56:55 PM »
That's a matter of opinion, not of fact.

It can't be an Opinion.  It's either true or not.

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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #473 on: January 28, 2019, 03:22:21 PM »
https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/jan/12/madeleine-mccann-parents-defamation-book

Thank you.  Alneida claimed to have formed an opinion. That was his prerogative, surely? His belief wasn't based entirely on the dog alerts, by the way, there was other evidece.
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« Reply #474 on: January 28, 2019, 03:25:37 PM »
It can't be an Opinion.  It's either true or not.

The FSS didn't say either way.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #475 on: January 28, 2019, 04:00:44 PM »
Thank you.  Alneida claimed to have formed an opinion. That was his prerogative, surely? His belief wasn't based entirely on the dog alerts, by the way, there was other evidece.

He said the main evidence was the dogs... Then he says the DNA pointed to Maddie.... That isn't what the FSS, said

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #476 on: January 28, 2019, 04:01:59 PM »
The FSS didn't say either way.

They didnt say it pointed to Maddie

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #477 on: January 28, 2019, 05:56:27 PM »
Thank you.  Alneida claimed to have formed an opinion. That was his prerogative, surely? His belief wasn't based entirely on the dog alerts, by the way, there was other evidece.
Cite please.
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #478 on: January 28, 2019, 06:08:15 PM »
They didnt say it pointed to Maddie

They gave no opinion either way. Therefore, as they didn't rule out the possibility that it belonged to Madeleine Almeida was entitled to form his own opinion. 
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Re: Manhunt by Colin Sutton. Are there comparisons with Madeleine?
« Reply #479 on: January 28, 2019, 06:13:25 PM »
They gave no opinion either way. Therefore, as they didn't rule out the possibility that it belonged to Madeleine Almeida was entitled to form his own opinion.
He can have any opinion he wants... But he should not present it as fact...... When the, evidence does not support it..