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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #15 on: July 19, 2018, 12:44:45 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on July 19, 2018, 12:39:57 PM
Of course, Cliff has never courted the media once.

I said he doesn't need to. He is already famous, wealthy and well loved by many. Was that your best come back from my post?  hmmmmm
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #16 on: July 19, 2018, 01:08:48 PM »
Quote from: Miss Taken Identity on July 19, 2018, 12:44:45 PM
I said he doesn't need to. He is already famous, wealthy and well loved by many. Was that your best come back from my post?  hmmmmm
Why is he famous then?  Nothing to do with the media of course!
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Offline John

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #17 on: July 19, 2018, 04:19:31 PM »
I assume the allegations against Sir Cliff never progressed beyond the investigatory stage as there was insufficient evidence to back up the complainants claims.  The police informant and the BBC jumped the gun in what they did and were rightly found liable IMO.

The very narrow line between public interest and defamation isn't always definable, the difficulty for Sir Cliff and anyone else tarnished by the media is that they will always have that dark shadow of suspicion envelop them.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #18 on: July 19, 2018, 10:26:18 PM »
Quote from: John on July 19, 2018, 04:19:31 PM
I assume the allegations against Sir Cliff never progressed beyond the investigatory stage as there was insufficient evidence to back up the complainants claims.  The police informant and the BBC jumped the gun in what they did and were rightly found liable IMO.

The very narrow line between public interest and defamation isn't always definable, the difficulty for Sir Cliff and anyone else tarnished by the media is that they will always have that dark shadow of suspicion envelop them.

I  agree with every word you have said John. Also doesn't it sound very similar to Brenda Leyland's tragic experience too.  Particularly as I have read she committed no crime
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Offline John

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2018, 10:00:31 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on July 19, 2018, 10:26:18 PM
I  agree with every word you have said John. Also doesn't it sound very similar to Brenda Leyland's tragic experience too.  Particularly as I have read she committed no crime

There definitely are parallels, Sir Cliff could have ended up just like BL had he succumbed to the allegations.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #20 on: July 23, 2018, 04:12:16 PM »
Quote from: John on July 22, 2018, 10:00:31 PM
There definitely are parallels, Sir Cliff could have ended up just like BL had he succumbed to the allegations.

I don't see any parallels with Brenda Leyland's suicide.  As far as I know Sir Cliff never went out of his way to use twitter to to say a bad word about anyone.  He was the victim of this ... not the instigator.
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #21 on: July 23, 2018, 04:22:49 PM »
Quote from: Brietta on July 23, 2018, 04:12:16 PM
I don't see any parallels with Brenda Leyland's suicide.  As far as I know Sir Cliff never went out of his way to use twitter to to say a bad word about anyone.  He was the victim of this ... not the instigator.

You're missing the point Brietta.  BL was driven to suicide by the actions of a Sky News reporter while Cliff Richard might well have gone the same way by the actions of a BBC News producer.

ETA. Neither Brenda or Sir Cliff did anything illegal apparently so both news organisations were out of order.
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Offline Erngath

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #22 on: July 25, 2018, 08:19:47 AM »
Quote from: Angelo222 on July 23, 2018, 04:22:49 PM
You're missing the point Brietta.  BL was driven to suicide by the actions of a Sky News reporter while Cliff Richard might well have gone the same way by the actions of a BBC News producer.

ETA. Neither Brenda or Sir Cliff did anything illegal apparently so both news organisations were out of order.


Thankfully the libellous newspaper headlines,  the many vile tweets, the many scurrilous false accusatios against the McCanns who also  have committed no crime has not driven either of them to commit suicide.
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Offline Miss Taken Identity

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #23 on: August 31, 2018, 10:10:36 PM »
There is no evidence that the mccanns commited 'no crime'.

There is also no comparison regarding the press pack.  Sir Cliff and Brenda did not invite the press and court it on these issues. They were both 'reported' to the police and press by others,both found not to have commited any crime.

 Back on topic as the McCanns have their very own thread. Some people eat, sleeep and breath McCanns!

Cliff was very ill by looking at him in some pictures you could amost feel the stress- I am surprised he didn't die of heart failure. He did have a lot of support and I believe I read his faith helped him,I am given to understand He did have 'those thoughts' when he was very low.


There has been a bit of a witch hunt regarding Sir Cliff, over the years, he was hounded about his 'sexuality' -wrongly accused of being involved of sexual deviency in the 60's. I belive this is because he has a faith and is seen as too squeaky clean living they need to find 'dirt' on him. This is 'the press' folks.  Sex sells and the sexually fustrated buy.

I really don't like his music, or his gushing about God...but He is not deserving of what he had to endure these past years.
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #24 on: October 10, 2018, 09:49:33 AM »
"The allegation against Sir Cliff first emerged in October 2012 when the alleged victim contacted Mark Williams-Thomas, an investigative journalist and former detective who worked on an ITV documentary exposing Jimmy Savile.

Today, Mr Williams-Thomas confirmed that he had also passed new information to the police about Sir Cliff in addition to the claims he heard from the alleged victim."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cliff-richard-abuse-allegations-investigated-4063224

The sex abuse allegation that instigated Thursday's police raid first surfaced in 2012 after an investigative journalist, Mark Williams-Thomas, was contacted by a man after his documentary Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy Savile was broadcast in October 2012. On Sunday, Williams-Thomas said he had passed the original allegation and other information to Operation Yewtree last year but had heard nothing new since
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/17/bbc-cliff-richard-witch-hunt-live-raid-broadcast



http://barthsnotes.com/2016/06/22/cliff-richard-reveals-how-south-yorkshire-police-mishandled-false-sex-abuse-allegations/


Sir Cliff Richard's child sex accuser 'is one of Britain's worst serial rapists' - yet he now gets lifelong anonymity after claiming to be a victim himself https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3646240/Sir-Cliff-Richard-s-accuser-one-Britain-s-worst-serial-rapists.html
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #25 on: October 10, 2018, 10:59:14 AM »
CLIFF RICHARD: MARK WILLIAMS-TWEETYPIE JUMPS IN FOR THE DEFENCE….
https://hat4uk.wordpress.com/2014/11/25/cliff-richard-mark-williams-tweetypie-jumps-in-for-the-defence/

"A spokesman for South Yorkshire Police, who are leading the investigation, said: ‘When a media outlet contacted South Yorkshire Police with information about an investigation, we took the decision to work with them in order to protect the integrity of that investigation.

'Since the search took place, a number of people have contacted the police to provide information and we must acknowledge that the media played a part in that, for which we are grateful.’ https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2725752/Sir-Cliff-Richard-pictured-performing-stadium-rally-alleged-sexually-abused-underage-boy-fans-urge-stay-strong.html

Cliff Hanger comes to an End
https://annaraccoon.com/2016/06/16/cliff-hanger-comes-to-an-end/
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Offline Nicholas

Re: Cliff Richard wins substantial damages from BBC.
« Reply #26 on: October 11, 2018, 01:46:03 PM »
Quote from: Stephanie on October 10, 2018, 09:49:33 AM
"The allegation against Sir Cliff first emerged in October 2012 when the alleged victim contacted Mark Williams-Thomas, an investigative journalist and former detective who worked on an ITV documentary exposing Jimmy Savile.

Today, Mr Williams-Thomas confirmed that he had also passed new information to the police about Sir Cliff in addition to the claims he heard from the alleged victim."
https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cliff-richard-abuse-allegations-investigated-4063224

The sex abuse allegation that instigated Thursday's police raid first surfaced in 2012 after an investigative journalist, Mark Williams-Thomas, was contacted by a man after his documentary Exposure: The Other Side of Jimmy Savile was broadcast in October 2012. On Sunday, Williams-Thomas said he had passed the original allegation and other information to Operation Yewtree last year but had heard nothing new since
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/aug/17/bbc-cliff-richard-witch-hunt-live-raid-broadcast



http://barthsnotes.com/2016/06/22/cliff-richard-reveals-how-south-yorkshire-police-mishandled-false-sex-abuse-allegations/


Sir Cliff Richard's child sex accuser 'is one of Britain's worst serial rapists' - yet he now gets lifelong anonymity after claiming to be a victim himself https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3646240/Sir-Cliff-Richard-s-accuser-one-Britain-s-worst-serial-rapists.html

WE* are coming for *YOU* now
"We're coming for you" - or was it 'We will come for you' ? I can't remember who said these words, I think it was ex-Commander Peter Spindler. Whatever, the point is : who did he come for, who was he coming for, and how successful was his bluster ?

http://rabbitaway.blogspot.com/2018/07/we-are-coming-for-you-now.html

"....,,,,We now know"* that one of those who would be targeted as a result of that bluster would eventually get to clear his name and sue the media for invading his privacy. Well done Cliff

... Much has been written about Sir Cliff's case, but what I want to know is WHO was the 'source' of CR's woes ? Was it him behind Jim Davidson's similar woes ? Let's take a look at the evidence shall we guys and gals ?

Him behind Jim Davidson's woes, according to JD and his mate in the Sun, was Mark Williams-Thomas.....
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