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Alfred R Jones

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Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #810 on: August 28, 2015, 05:41:51 PM »
So who did Arthur Conan Doyle Libel?
Who said Arthur Conal Doyle had libelled anyone?  Faithlilly has as her avatar the statement "When a doctor does go wrong he is the first of criminals. He has nerve and he has knowledge" a quote from a novel by ACD in which he is describing a (fictional) murderous physician.  Faithlilly posts exclusively on the Madeleine McCann forum, in which she "only asks questions" about the parents of Madeleine McCann, both of whom are doctors by profession.  You join the dots if you're able....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #811 on: August 28, 2015, 05:42:33 PM »
PS: I am reporting Faithlilly's avatar as I think it is the kind of avatar a troll would use on this forum, plus because of the forum it's being used on I would say it was also libellous.

I would say it would be more accurate to replace doctor with policeman

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #812 on: August 28, 2015, 05:56:53 PM »
Who said Arthur Conal Doyle had libelled anyone?  Faithlilly has as her avatar the statement "When a doctor does go wrong he is the first of criminals. He has nerve and he has knowledge" a quote from a novel by ACD in which he is describing a (fictional) murderous physician.  Faithlilly posts exclusively on the Madeleine McCann forum, in which she "only asks questions" about the parents of Madeleine McCann, both of whom are doctors by profession.  You join the dots if you're able....

Nah, a huge leap that. The statement "doctors can become great criminal" is not libellous.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #813 on: August 28, 2015, 05:59:27 PM »
Nah, a huge leap that. The statement "doctors can become great criminal" is not libellous.

Doctors being extremely intelligent would be good at most things

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #814 on: August 28, 2015, 06:03:05 PM »
Doctors being extremely intelligent would be good at most things

So you agree not a libellous statement.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #815 on: August 28, 2015, 06:20:53 PM »
Nah, a huge leap that. The statement "doctors can become great criminal" is not libellous.
libel by inference.  It doesn't take a great leap of intelligence to work out exactly what Faithlilly is implying.

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #816 on: August 28, 2015, 06:22:54 PM »
"Inferences and innuendoes are also prosecutable offenses and should be seen as dangerous as any direct statement. An inference is similar to an innuendo  – the crucial disparity is that an inference is a hidden suggestion recognisable to one without special knowledge, whereas an innuendo is a hidden meaning within a statement that may seem defamatory only to those with special knowledge" -

one has to ask oneself why, of all the ACD quotes she could have chosen, did Faithlilly specifically choose to display this one as her avatar?

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #817 on: August 28, 2015, 06:31:05 PM »
So you agree not a libellous statement.
I thought you might make quite a good Moderator, but I realise now that I was wrong.

stephen25000

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Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #818 on: August 28, 2015, 07:15:52 PM »
Doctors being extremely intelligent would be good at most things

In childcare ?


ferryman

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Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #819 on: August 28, 2015, 07:16:24 PM »
libel by inference.  It doesn't take a great leap of intelligence to work out exactly what Faithlilly is implying.

Artimus Jones:

http://mavrkydefamationcaselaw.blogspot.co.uk/2007/01/hulton-co-v-jones.html

So far as I'm aware, the precedent has never been superseded ....

Alfred R Jones

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Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #820 on: August 28, 2015, 07:21:34 PM »
Artimus Jones:

http://mavrkydefamationcaselaw.blogspot.co.uk/2007/01/hulton-co-v-jones.html

So far as I'm aware, the precedent has never been superseded ....
Ah, good old Great Uncle Artemus....

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #821 on: August 28, 2015, 07:37:33 PM »
"Inferences and innuendoes are also prosecutable offenses and should be seen as dangerous as any direct statement. An inference is similar to an innuendo  – the crucial disparity is that an inference is a hidden suggestion recognisable to one without special knowledge, whereas an innuendo is a hidden meaning within a statement that may seem defamatory only to those with special knowledge" -

one has to ask oneself why, of all the ACD quotes she could have chosen, did Faithlilly specifically choose to display this one as her avatar?

The bit you Googled and cut and pasted is dated 2013. New legislation came into force in 2014. Are you satisfied what you posted remains applicable?

1Serious harm

(1)A statement is not defamatory unless its publication has caused or is likely to cause serious harm to the reputation of the claimant.

(2)For the purposes of this section, harm to the reputation of a body that trades for profit is not “serious harm” unless it has caused or is likely to cause the body serious financial loss.
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Online misty

Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #822 on: August 28, 2015, 07:45:23 PM »
Hmmm, despite being a no-news month yet again, August has seen the withdrawal of Stephen Birch, Miss L. Baulch and now Blacksmith from the fray. Sonia seems otherwise engaged losing a pearly-whites battle with Rylan on Daytime TV.
Which, as yet unpublicised, event has prompted the apparent beginning of the end?

ferryman

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Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #823 on: August 28, 2015, 07:47:38 PM »
The bit you Googled and cut and pasted is dated 2013. New legislation came into force in 2014. Are you satisfied what you posted remains applicable?

1Serious harm

(1)A statement is not defamatory unless its publication has caused or is likely to cause serious harm to the reputation of the claimant.

(2)For the purposes of this section, harm to the reputation of a body that trades for profit is not “serious harm” unless it has caused or is likely to cause the body serious financial loss.


So inferring that a doctor might try to cover up mistakes by nefarious criminal intent is not libellous?

Perhaps not, if no doctor (named) is likely to be identified by the statement ....

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What is an 'internet troll'?
« Reply #824 on: August 28, 2015, 08:01:18 PM »
The bit you Googled and cut and pasted is dated 2013. New legislation came into force in 2014. Are you satisfied what you posted remains applicable?

1Serious harm

(1)A statement is not defamatory unless its publication has caused or is likely to cause serious harm to the reputation of the claimant.

(2)For the purposes of this section, harm to the reputation of a body that trades for profit is not “serious harm” unless it has caused or is likely to cause the body serious financial loss.


there can be no doubt that statements made  on this forum are likely to cause serious harm to the reputation of the mccanns