Amaral and the dogs

[mercury]

grime says the alerts were suggestive of cadaver scent...so he doesn't know for certain....yet posters on here and elsewhere think they know...deluded

Exactly. The dog alerts suggest cadaver scent because that is what the dog was trained to alert to, what he alerted to in actual case searches. Mr Grime does not suggest anything else, therefore it is a given that he is pretty sure. He did also say it is in his "professional opinion" (that should give you an extra clue).

Whether posters make a small, medium or a giant leap to any ideas or conclusions is by the by. But please don't suggest the dog handler doesn't know what he is talking about.

[misty]

Exactly. The dog alerts suggest cadaver scent because that is what the dog was trained to alert to, what he alerted to in actual case searches. Mr Grime does not suggest anything else, therefore it is a given that he is pretty sure. He did also say it is in his "professional opinion" (that should give you an extra clue).

Whether posters make a small, medium or a giant leap to any ideas or conclusions is by the by. But please don't suggest the dog handler doesn't know what he is talking about.

Why would Grime have deemed it unnecessary to deploy Eddie INSIDE a vehicle to which he had just positively alerted?

[G-Unit]

Why would Grime have deemed it unnecessary to deploy Eddie INSIDE a vehicle to which he had just positively alerted?

If Eddie alerted then Keela was used. If Keela alerted then blood was present. If Keela did not alert; cadaver.

[Mr Gray]

If Eddie alerted then Keela was used. If Keela alerted then blood was present. If Keela did not alert; cadaver.

so according to that it was blood...we now know Gerry's .....so no cadaver in the car

[stephen25000]

grime says the alerts were suggestive of cadaver scent...so he doesn't know for certain....yet posters on here and elsewhere think they know...deluded

Inconclusive forensics.

So it is more than a possibility a cadaver was present.

[misty]

If Eddie alerted then Keela was used. If Keela alerted then blood was present. If Keela did not alert; cadaver.

Eddie only alerted outside the vehicle, albeit at the door seal. How could Grime be positive the odour was coming from inside rather than something on the outside?

[Alfred R Jones]

Inconclusive forensics.

So it is more than a possibility a cadaver was present.

More than a possibility?!  How so?

[G-Unit]

Eddie only alerted outside the vehicle, albeit at the door seal. How could Grime be positive the odour was coming from inside rather than something on the outside?

Experience? I don't know because he didn't say.

[Mr Gray]

Thirty-odd years;

Police on Thursday revived their search for Etan Patz, a 6-year-old who disappeared in 1979 en route to a New York City bus stop, after a cadaver-sniffing dog recently detected the odor of human remains in a basement near Patz’s SoHo home.
http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2012/04/etan_patz_search_renewed_can_cadaver_dogs_smell_30_year_old_corpses_.html

if you read the whole article it says later..
single human vertebra, more than 30 years old, was buried 12 inches deep...so where remains, remain...yes...but there is no reliable information on how long the scent of death lasts..

We could ask our resident expert in chemistry perhaps...

With dilution through airflow it would be surprising if a single molecule of a gas would remain

[Mr Gray]

Inconclusive forensics.

So it is more than a possibility a cadaver was present.

not more than a possibility...just a possibility

[mercury]

Why would Grime have deemed it unnecessary to deploy Eddie INSIDE a vehicle to which he had just positively alerted?

GUnit has answered this Misty. (Thank you GU). I would add that the space inside a car is relatively small, in fact too small to differentiate between one area and another.

[misty]

Experience? I don't know because he didn't say.

So why wasn't Keela deployed to inspect the point at which Eddie indicated, ie, the outside of the vehicle? There was no evidence Eddie was not indicating to blood on the exterior of the vehicle at that stage.

[misty]

GUnit has answered this Misty. (Thank you GU). I would add that the space inside a car is relatively small, in fact too small to differentiate between one area and another.

So why did Eddie have to be put inside the wardrobe in 5a before he indicated?

[Mr Gray]

GUnit has answered this Misty. (Thank you GU). I would add that the space inside a car is relatively small, in fact too small to differentiate between one area and another.

so again we have no confirmation of cadaver in the car

[Alfred R Jones]

Eddie only alerted outside the vehicle, albeit at the door seal. How could Grime be positive the odour was coming from inside rather than something on the outside?

An alert on the outside of the car would have been easier to film than an alert on the inside of the car...