Amaral and the dogs

[ferryman]

Afraid not.

Do what you want with your frayed knots.

The family wasn't the focus in May 2007 . The twins weren't even tested.

Not taking cuddle-cat for forensic analysis was an oversight by the PJ.

[jassi]

Maybe, though as I recall, it had been laundered within an inch of its life so may not have provided anything useful.

[Carew]

Police do not base their suspicions on guess-work.

Which can be accepted as your acknowledgement that a cadaver contaminant alert can occur at the same site at which blood is present.

To state categorically that alerts from both blood and VRD dogs must both only be to blood and not cadaver contaminant is misleading.

[Brietta]

Afraid not.

The family wasn't the focus in May 2007 . The twins weren't even tested. Too much interference and a media circus.

Madeleine McCann should rightly have been the focus of the investigation from the minute she was reported missing.  Everything of hers and everything with which she was in close contact should have been taken for examination.

If the abductor had dropped a hair which stuck to either cuddle cat or her blanket ... it would never be found otherwise.

[Anna]

You cannot disregard or negate the point that a cadaver contaminant alert can occur at the site from which a cadaver has been removed leaving blood traces behind.

Such illogicality implies that each time blood is present a cadaver alert cannot occur at the same site!

So who do you think may have died there on the floor tiles behind the couch, Carew?

[Brietta]

Maybe, though as I recall, it had been laundered within an inch of its life so may not have provided anything useful.

The toy was on Madeleine's bed.

It should have been bagged and sent to forensics.

[Anna]

The toy was on Madeleine's bed.

It should have been bagged and sent to forensics.

Was her bedding?

[Carew]

So who do you think may have died there on the floor tiles behind the couch, Carew?

Do you agree that a VRD can alert to cadaver at the same spot that a blood dog alerts to?

That`s the point.

It has been stated that both dogs must have only alerted to blood.

That is misleading because we don`t actually know, do we?

[Eleanor]

Was her bedding?

No.

[ferryman]

Do you agree that a VRD can alert to cadaver at the same spot that a blood dog alerts to?

That`s the point.

It has been stated that both dogs must have only alerted to blood.

That is misleading because we don`t actually know, do we?

No it's not the point.

If there is blood in the vicinity, a cadaver dog (should alert).  Speculation about "cadaver scent" is precisely that, speculation and guesswork unless there is corroboration.

Corroboration can come, alone, from DNA uncovered by scientists in a laboratory.

[Brietta]

Was her bedding?

I was sure I had seen that the cleaners were allowed entry quite early on and the bedding taken away for washing;  I have had a look and can't find a cite for that.

[Anna]

There is very remote chance that the minuscule amounts of blood that Keela can detect, was not what Eddie alerted too.
However IIRC there was no DNA belonging to the McCanns found on that tile area, so it would not be a case of removing a cadaver and leaving some of that body blood/fluid behind, if it was Madeleine.
I'm sure you can understand why Mr Grime took two dogs. It was to eliminate any alerts of blood be Eddie.

[pathfinder73]

Madeleine McCann should rightly have been the focus of the investigation from the minute she was reported missing.  Everything of hers and everything with which she was in close contact should have been taken for examination.

If the abductor had dropped a hair which stuck to either cuddle cat or her blanket ... it would never be found otherwise.

Hairs on bed.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm

[Brietta]

There is very remote chance that the minuscule amounts of blood that Keela can detect, was not what Eddie alerted too.
However IIRC there was no DNA belonging to the McCanns found on that tile area, so it would not be a case of removing a cadaver and leaving some of that body blood/fluid behind, if it was Madeleine.
I'm sure you can understand why Mr Grime took two dogs. It was to eliminate any alerts of blood be Eddie.

I think it is usual to have at least two different teams working a case, Anna.  Different handlers and different dogs.

[Anna]

Hairs on bed.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/5A_FORENSIC_4_5_7.htm

Yes the initial forensic team found hairs. None of the bedding appears to have gone to forensic lab, except for the counterpane on the bed next to the window which was thought to have a stain of something other than what it turned out to be....A child's saliva.
I believe luminol was used and only shows bodily fluids.