Smithman's route from apartment 5a to the beach according to Pathfinder.

[mercury]

That is a bigotted persons opinion. %£5&%

Better to be bigoted (if you are that is) than cast aspersions on people's characters online that you don't know,  such as, being a sadist or a paedophile or an abductor protector, don't you think? All of which you are guilty of so less of the playing at the moral highground which you (and some of your ilk) are a million miles away from....basically

[ShiningInLuz]

End of the stroll.

1432.  From the channel in the rock to the Fortaleza above.  There is an arm hanging over the terrace, but this was mid August, not early May.

1433. From the end of the channel to the rocks south of the Fortaleza.  Nobody went up or down this lot.  My thanks to the person who wandered along to give us some perspective.

1434.  8:25pm.  All the lights are on, and you can see that they don't amount to much.  Plus, for those of you into bins, notice another blue bin pinned to the rocks in the middle.

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[pathfinder73]

End of the stroll.

1432.  From the channel in the rock to the Fortaleza above.  There is an arm hanging over the terrace, but this was mid August, not early May.

1433. From the end of the channel to the rocks south of the Fortaleza.  Nobody went up or down this lot.  My thanks to the person who wandered along to give us some perspective.

1434.  8:25pm.  All the lights are on, and you can see that they don't amount to much.  Plus, for those of you into bins, notice another blue bin pinned to the rocks in the middle.

That is interesting thanks Shining.

[pegasus]

Long before SY's "revelation" it was easy to see that the child JT saw being carried was not the missing child.
Because the pyjama legs seen were much longer than the missing child's.
Just saying, in the irish sighting, the sleeve length seen is much longer than the missing child's.

[misty]

Long before SY's "revelation" it was easy to see that the child JT saw being carried was not the missing child.
Because the pyjama legs seen were much longer than the missing child's.
Just saying, in the irish sighting, the sleeve length seen is much longer than the missing child's.

M&S children's pyjamas are normally very generous in both width & length. The trouser waistband may well have slid down past her hips, given the manner in which she was being carried.
I don't think you can rule out Tannerman solely on that basis.

[mercury]

Long before SY's "revelation" it was easy to see that the child JT saw being carried was not the missing child.
Because the pyjama legs seen were much longer than the missing child's.
Just saying, in the irish sighting, the sleeve length seen is much longer than the missing child's.

How do you know what sleeve length the smiths saw? And working back what sleeve length Madeleine might have worn
?

[Anna]

Kate said that Madeleine was wearing short sleeves and Aoife Smith said that they were long sleeves .

[mercury]

Kate said that Madeleine was wearing short sleeves and Aoife Smith said that they were long sleeves .

Yes, I know that...Pegasus referred to JTs sighting not being possible as being to Madeleine because the length of the pyjama bottoms was wrong...he then went on to comment on the length of the sleeves the Irish witness saw, I assumed he meant, in the same way, it couldn't be a sighting of Madeleine because the sleeves were too long if you see what I mean..so I asked how did he know this? What length sleeves would be right? LOL..of course I could have read it ALL wrong, it happens

ETA Pegasus could have just meant neither child was Madeleine because her pyjama bottoms were not as in the Tanner sketch to the ankle and the Smith sighting not her either as she had long sleeves in that! probably guilty of over analysing here, sorry

[pathfinder73]

Kate said that Madeleine was wearing short sleeves and Aoife Smith said that they were long sleeves .

Smithman knew he was seen so things will change. Discover those changes like I have.

[pegasus]

Yes, I know that...Pegasus referred to JTs sighting not being possible as being to Madeleine because the length of the pyjama bottoms was wrong...he then went on to comment on the length of the sleeves the Irish witness saw, I assumed he meant, in the same way, it couldn't be a sighting of Madeleine because the sleeves were too long if you see what I mean..so I asked how did he know this? What length sleeves would be right? LOL..of course I could have read it ALL wrong, it happens

ETA Pegasus could have just meant neither child was Madeleine because her pyjama bottoms were not as in the Tanner sketch to the ankle and the Smith sighting not her either as she had long sleeves in that! probably guilty of over analysing here, sorry

The child JT saw had trouser legs too long IMO for it to be the missing child.
The child the Irish group saw had sleeves too long IMO for it to be the missing child
IMO the man the Irish saw turned into the lane of steps.

[jassi]

Can we be absolutely certain what Madeleine was wearing that evening ?

[Anna]

End of the stroll.

1432.  From the channel in the rock to the Fortaleza above.  There is an arm hanging over the terrace, but this was mid August, not early May.

1433. From the end of the channel to the rocks south of the Fortaleza.  Nobody went up or down this lot.  My thanks to the person who wandered along to give us some perspective.

1434.  8:25pm.  All the lights are on, and you can see that they don't amount to much.  Plus, for those of you into bins, notice another blue bin pinned to the rocks in the middle.

Great Piccis again, Shining.
                                 You're doing a great job of making the area easier for us to understand. Thank You

[sadie]

End of the stroll.

1432.  From the channel in the rock to the Fortaleza above.  There is an arm hanging over the terrace, but this was mid August, not early May.

1433. From the end of the channel to the rocks south of the Fortaleza.  Nobody went up or down this lot.  My thanks to the person who wandered along to give us some perspective.

1434.  8:25pm.  All the lights are on, and you can see that they don't amount to much. Plus, for those of you into bins, notice another blue bin pinned to the rocks in the middle.

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Wow wee.  It's the same bin I do believe.

Been there [one colour or another] for over 8 years and now suddenly it has been moved


I do believe someone is reading our forum in PdL !!! *&*%£

[ShiningInLuz]

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Wow wee.  It's the same bin I do believe.

Been there [one colour or another] for over 8 years and now suddenly it has been moved


I do believe someone is reading our forum in PdL !!! *&*%£

Of course someone in Luz is reading the forum.  I am!

Two separate blue bins on the same date 14 Aug 2015.

No, I did not move one blue bin from beside the promenade to the middle of the rocks.  Check the earlier photos and the blue bin on the middle rocks should also feature.

There's no bin-shuffling going on.

[pegasus]

Smithman's route from apartment 5a to the beach could start at the lane/Block 4 car park to outside perimeter of the wasteland (probably hidden in bushes). Later move - ran alone to hiding place and then seen by the Smiths. Smithman knew the dark deserted rocky beach would be a good hiding place so this whole rocky area needs to be checked by cadaver dogs.

@Pathfinder. Certainly not agreeing with any part of your theory but looking at your route and photo (first post) it is all rocky with no sand and assuming you ruled out outlet in photo basically there is nowhere to hide anything here IMO.