Twist in case of missing two-year-old DeOrr Kunz Jr as parents named suspects

[pegasus]

http://www.truecrimeradio.com/radio-archives/sheriff-lynn-bowerman-radio-archive-jan-2016/
At 26:32 Sherrif Bowerman states that ggpa's vehicle was a Suburban.

So ggpa was driving a blue Chevy Suburban, towing a camper (caravan).
And VK was driving a black Chevy Blazer pickup truck.

This is why the child and parents slept in the Suburban - because it has lots of room to lay down  - unlike the Blazer cab

[misty]

http://www.truecrimeradio.com/radio-archives/sheriff-lynn-bowerman-radio-archive-jan-2016/
At 26:32 Sherrif Bowerman states that ggpa's vehicle was a Suburban.

So ggpa was driving a blue Chevy Suburban, towing a camper (caravan).
And VK was driving a black Chevy Blazer pickup truck.

This is why the child and parents slept in the Suburban - because it has lots of room to lay down  - unlike the Blazer cab

IR knew the correct colours of the vehicles but mixed up the models - I wonder why? Rehearsed speech?
Have you listened to "breakfast & the tail pipe"?

[pegasus]

IR knew the correct colours of the vehicles but mixed up the models - I wonder why? Rehearsed speech?
Have you listened to "breakfast & the tail pipe"?

1. It is certainly an honest mistake by IR (probably not a driver) - Suburban and Blazer both Chevys have very similar stying and probably same front end, doors, wheels, etc  - Suburban looks like a Blazer with a roof on the back.
2. Thanks Misty B&TTP is exactly what I was looking for - an extraordinary video.

[misty]

1. It is certainly an honest mistake by IR (probably not a driver) - Suburban and Blazer both Chevys have very similar stying and probably same front end, doors, wheels, etc  - Suburban looks like a Blazer with a roof on the back.
2. Thanks Misty B&TTP is exactly what I was looking for - an extraordinary video.

I believe IR is more into pushbikes than trucks which is why I'm surprised he knew the model name of VK's vehicle.

Have you read anything about what the group actually did on the first night, apart from making a fire & setting up camp?

What are your thoughts on the B&TTP video


Picture of Vernal & his truck. There is a better one elsewhere but I can't remember where I saw it atm.

[pegasus]

Two more views IMO of VK truck
http://youtu.be/KJ5jneZnzws?t=3m9s
http://i.picpar.com/Pz8b.png

[pegasus]

...What are your thoughts on the B&TTP video ...

Amongst many points of interest...
At 35s he says "my trucks" (plural)
At 1m11s does he say "my Dodge"?

[pegasus]

It should be possible to identify VK truck from this photo
http://i.picpar.com/Pz8b.png
IMO it is  a Dodge Ram 1991-1993 Clubcab.
Biggest clue is the guttering.
Found a poster on websleuths who reached same conclusion:
"after looking into it a bit more I think it may be a early 90's Dodge RAM"

[misty]

It should be possible to identify VK truck from this photo
http://i.picpar.com/Pz8b.png
IMO it is  a Dodge Ram 1991-1993 Clubcab.
Biggest clue is the guttering.
Found a poster on websleuths who reached same conclusion:
"after looking into it a bit more I think it may be a early 90's Dodge RAM"

So IR was correct in saying GGP's Blue Blazer?

[pegasus]

So IR was correct in saying GGP's Blue Blazer?

IMO ggpa'a vehicle was a Chevy Suburban or possibly a Chevy TrailBlazer which looks very similar to a Chevy Suburban.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_Suburban
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chevrolet_TrailBlazer

[pegasus]

Am now almost certain VK's vehicle http://i.picpar.com/Pz8b.png was a Dodge Ram Clubcab 1991-1993 (see rain gutter design, and the position of front side indicator repeater).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ram_Pickup#/media/File:1991-93_Dodge_Ram_250_Club_Cab_Cummins.jpg

[misty]

Amongst many points of interest...
At 35s he says "my trucks" (plural)
At 1m11s does he say "my Dodge"?

I believe he drives haulage trucks for a living (I have also seen a photo on F/B of him beside a massive lorry)
Yes, he does say "my Dodge".
I agree with your analysis of VK's truck model so IR was correct in his interview.

[pegasus]

Is it possible he crawled under the Dodge while unsupervised and went to sleep under it?

[misty]

Is it possible he crawled under the Dodge while unsupervised and went to sleep under it?

It's possible, but wouldn't there have been blood & skin tissue  on the ground after DK drove away to get a better phone signal? (doesn't bear thinking about).
IMO GGP was the one who dropped off to sleep for a period of time. What happened next is dependant on where the other 3 really were during that time.

[pegasus]

You've provided a good argument against the went to sleep under pickup truck theory Misty.
Is there any way the child could have climbed up onto the cargo bed of the pickup truck, if the tailgate was open, and gone to sleep there?

[pegasus]

(snip) ... IMO GGP was the one who dropped off to sleep for a period of time. What happened next is dependant on where the other 3 really were during that time.

Yes but IMO it is probable that the child went to sleep somewhere because this was his usual nap time according to a video interview.