Latest news on the search for Madeleine McCann

[Erngath]

Ah, but what if those are the very bits that aren't true? Where would that leave you ?

Wouldn't leave me anywhere!
Do you believe the paper is printing an untrue artcle, namely that there are no leads and also that they didn't tell the McCanns that they are following two leads?

[jassi]

Wouldn't leave me anywhere!
Do you believe the paper is printing an untrue artcle, namely that there are no leads and also that they didn't tell the McCanns that they are following two leads?

I have no more idea if the article is true than you do.
Neither do I really care.
What will be will be, irrespective of what the papers say.

[Eleanor]

I have no more idea if the article is true than you do.
Neither do I really care.
What will be will be, irrespective of what the papers say.

We aren't denying that Operation Grange got more money, are we?

[jassi]

We aren't denying that Operation Grange got more money, are we?

I can only go by what I read in the papers. I have no way of evaluating what they say.

[Eleanor]

I can only go by what I read in the papers. I have no way of evaluating what they say.

This latest dollop of money does appear to have created a small measure of chagrin in certain quarters.

[jassi]

This latest dollop of money does appear to have created a small measure of chagrin in certain quarters.

You have evidence of this?

[Eleanor]

You have evidence of this?

Do you really need to ask this?

[jassi]

Do you really need to ask this?

You're the one that brought it up, not me.

[Eleanor]

You're the one that brought it up, not me.

Are you saying it hasn't?

[jassi]

Are you saying it hasn't?

How would I really know?
I've only seen comments in the likes of the Mail and they are not necessarily reliable

[Venturi Swirl]

IMO the story was fed to the journalists by the usual suspects and I believe most of it is true. It’s the spin that isn’t.

How do you decide which bit is spin and which is not?  Wouldn’t it be more honest to say you believe the bits you want to believe and disbelieve the bits that don’t fit with the narrative in your head?

[Erngath]

How do you decide which bit is spin and which is not?  Wouldn’t it be more honest to say you believe the bits you want to believe and disbelieve the bits that don’t fit with the narrative in your head?

Indeed.

[jassi]

How do you decide which bit is spin and which is not?  Wouldn’t it be more honest to say you believe the bits you want to believe and disbelieve the bits that don’t fit with the narrative in your head?

I guess that applies to everyone.

[Sunny]

More from Dave Edgar via Tracy Kandohla.  Maddie could be alive and hidden in a lair.


 An investigator says Madeleine McCann could still be alive and being held against her will in Portugal
PA:PRESS ASSOCIATION
 
An investigator says Madeleine McCann could still be alive and being held against her will in Portugal
He believes she is being kept against her will under a false identity and could even still be in Portugal - where she vanished as a three-year-old in May 2007 - or in neighbouring Spain.

The retired Detective Inspector spoke out today after the Home Office announced last week it had granted an extra £150,000 to Scotland Yard to continue searching for the world’s most high profile missing child.

Met Police are chasing up two vital lines of inquiry and have told Maddie’s parents Kate and Gerry they are “hopeful of getting a result.”

Mr Edgar, who passed all his findings to the Operation Grange team when they took over the search in May 2011, said officers could be chasing up two old or new leads.

 Retired inspector David Edgar believes the tot was snatched by a sex gang back in May 2007DARREN FLETCHER
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Retired inspector David Edgar believes the tot was snatched by a sex gang back in May 2007
He believes they could be following up his theory - which the McCann’s feel is most probable - about a paedophile kidnap which he “never got to the bottom of.”

He explained: “Not for want of trying but as a private investigator I was faced with certain restrictions and stumbling blocks unlike the official authorities.”

Mr Edgar, 61, who was previously employed by Maddie’s parents for three years, told Sun Online that police may have had a recent tip off from someone known to the kidnappers - providing them with a second new lead.

He said: “I’ve always thought that whoever is responsible will have confided in someone else. They usually do and it is very rare that they don’t even if it takes years.

 Edgar believes the tot was snatched by a sex gang from the villa in Pria de Luz, Portugal 11 years ago
 
Edgar believes the tot was snatched by a sex gang from the villa in Pria de Luz, Portugal 11 years ago
“Now we’re approaching the 12th year, that’s a significant time but I think she could still be alive and someone is protecting her captors. Someone knows what happened and it’s time they came forward, may be they have and officers are waiting for a confession. It happens."

Mr Edgar added: “She could literally be anywhere in the world but my hunch is that she is in Portugal. The chance that she may have been smuggled out of the country without being detected is highly unlikely.

"There is someone in Portugal with an open knowledge of where she is and what happened.Someone knows what happened and it’s time they came forward - maybe they already have.”

“Unless a body is found there is hope. Everyone hopes for a positive outcome and Kate and Gerry will never give up, even when the funding runs out. I hope they get an answer they’ve been waiting for so long.”

 Maddie would be 15 years old if she were still alive today

Mr Edgar believes Maddie - who if alive would now be aged 15 - could be living with her captor in a hideaway home or underground den inland from the popular seaside towns on the Algarve from where she was snatched.

He likened her case to that of kidnapped sex slave Jaycee Lee Dugard who “came back from the dead.”

The 11-year-old schoolgirl was abducted from a street in Tahoe, California, in June 1991, on her way to school and was kept imprisoned for 18 years. She was found alive in August 2009.

Mr Edgar said: "There is every possibility that Madeleine is still alive and could be being hidden somewhere and having no idea even who she is and that she is at the centre of a worldwide hunt for her. He said the vast wilderness where he believes the teenager could be languishing may be almost impossible to search completely.

 Kate and Gerry McCann are 'greatly encouraged' that cops could finally be closing in on their daughter’s kidnapper.GETTY - CONTRIBUTOR
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Kate and Gerry McCann are 'greatly encouraged' that cops could finally be closing in on their daughter’s kidnapper.
He explained: “This rural, sprawling terrain makes it extremely difficult to search. You could quite easily keep a child there for years and no-one else would know. She could be hidden away in a cellar or dungeon in the lawless villages around the resort she went missing from. The key thing is no body has been found. When paedophiles kill they often dump the body nearby and this doesn’t appear to be the case here. Even the ocean often gives up his victims.”

Maddie vanished from a holiday apartment in Portugal’s Praia da Luz eleven and a half years ago just days before her fourth birthday. She had been left alone sleeping with her younger twin siblings while her parents were dining in a nearby tapas restaurant with pals.

 The Home Office last week announced it would grant an extra £150,000 to Operation Grange to keep the investigation going until spring next yearEPA
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The Home Office last week announced it would grant an extra £150,000 to Operation Grange to keep the investigation going until spring next year
Police recently told her parents: “We’re hopeful we can get a result.” Op Grange team, who had been thought to be focusing on just one, told Kate and Gerry during a meeting they had “two specific and active” lines of inquiry.

The McCanns are “greatly encouraged” that cops could finally be closing in on their daughter’s kidnapper.

 British police and their Portuguese counterparts investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann searching a patch of scrubland just outside the town of Praia da Luz in 2014PA:PRESS ASSOCIATION
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British police and their Portuguese counterparts investigating the disappearance of Madeleine McCann searching a patch of scrubland just outside the town of Praia da Luz in 2014
The Home Office last week announced it would grant an extra £150,000 to Operation Grange to keep the investigation going until spring next year. So far they have handed out £11.75 million of taxpayers’ money for the high-profile search.

A Whitehall source said: ”Metropolitan Police officers had a sit-down meeting with Madeleine’s parents to tell them exactly where they were with their inquiries. They informed them they had two specific and active leads that still needed to be chased and that although the investigation was taking longer than they initially thought officers said they were confident and hopeful they could get a result.”

 Maddie's disappearance has baffled the world for more than a decadePA:PRESS ASSOCIATION
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Maddie's disappearance has baffled the world for more than a decade
It is understood detectives met Kate, a former GP, and eminent cardiologist Gerry, both 50, at their home in Rothley, Leics, last month.

Police refuse to make public any clues about the suspects they are determined to track down for fear of them going to ground.

Home Office 'to give Scotland Yard another £154,000 to fund Madeleine McCann search'
Mr Edgar said the new funding was “totally justified.” He said: “It’s a very delicate case but officers would not have requested extra funding if they didn’t need it. Whether they’ll crack it, it’s impossible to say but everyone hopes there is a positive outcome.

“I think there will be a resolution, it will be something simple like someone talking - a confession is the best hope of a breakthrough.”

A Scotland Yard spokesperson refused to discuss the two leads they are actively chasing, saying: “We cannot give a running commentary while there is an ongoing investigation."

 The apartment block in Luz in the Algarve, Portugal, where Madeleine McCann went missing 11 years agoPA:PRESS ASSOCIATION
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The apartment block in Luz in the Algarve, Portugal, where Madeleine McCann went missing 11 years ago
Mr Edgar, who has had more than 30 years experience with Cheshire Police and the Royal Ulster Constabulary, stopped working for theMcCanns when the Met Police came on board in May 2011 on orders of then Prime Minister David Cameron.

He added: “I firmly believe this case will be solved eventually - it is not beyond the realms of possibility.”

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Maddie’s eminent heart doctor dad Gerry, 50, said during an emotional BBC Radio 4 interview in September that he dreamed his daughter was still alive and believes they will one day be reunited.

He said: “I just want to hug her, to hold her, to cry - a lot. Never a day goes by when I don’t think of Madeleine."

Ex GP mum Kate, also 50, who is now a part time medical worker, said in a heartfelt 11th anniversary message: “Hope and perseverance remain. We will do whatever it takes to find her. We couldn’t bear for Madeleine to be forgotten or become just a ‘story’. "

Madeleine McCann case must be solved to stop it happening again , ex Met detective tells Good Morning Britain

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/7779795/madeleine-mccann-investigator-claims-missing-could-be-alive/

[jassi]

And this is news?
I thought he was saying the same years ago.