Author Topic: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?  (Read 45605 times)

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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #480 on: June 23, 2019, 12:55:24 PM »
Belief is less needing of evidence.

“an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.”
Which describes Wonderfulspam’s admission of believing the parents guilty from day one to a tee.
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #481 on: June 23, 2019, 12:56:58 PM »
Belief is less needing of evidence.

“an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.”
As there is no proof of Madeleine’s fate, there are only beliefs, right?
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #482 on: June 23, 2019, 01:05:49 PM »
As there is no proof of Madeleine’s fate, there are only beliefs, right?
Some scenarios are definitely ruled out IMO.  Ie. not stabbed in apartment 5A,
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Offline Angelo222

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #483 on: June 23, 2019, 02:59:26 PM »
I did this in similar circumstances, so that aspect of it has always been hard for me.  I cannot condemn The McCanns for something I did myself.

And in case you ask, No, I don't think I was being stupid.

You were lucky.
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Offline Carana

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #484 on: June 23, 2019, 04:37:53 PM »
three bone fragments (the largest 25 mm = 1 inch long) were identified as possibly human; two of them have been dated to a range from 1470 to 1650 and the other 1650 to 1950

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jersey_child_abuse_investigation_2008

Were human bones found found under the coconut? Not sure where you found that.

Offline Eleanor

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #485 on: June 23, 2019, 04:38:46 PM »
You were lucky.

And managed to raise three children who are kind, and don't spend their time accusing without just cause.

Offline slartibartfast

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #486 on: June 23, 2019, 04:59:46 PM »
youve only given a definition of belief...thats hardly useful...you have not demonstrated a diference beteween the two...

opinion


noun
1.
a view or judgement formed about something, not necessarily based on fact or knowledge.





so wheres the diference

Especially vs not necessarily...
« Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 05:12:52 PM by slartibartfast »
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #487 on: June 23, 2019, 05:17:32 PM »
"Surely the fact that their accounts were different reinforces their veracity rather than diminishes it? If they had colluded in protecting ........ surely all of their accounts would be the same?" - Faithlilly

Offline Mr Gray

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #488 on: June 23, 2019, 05:24:39 PM »
Belief is less needing of evidence.

“an acceptance that something exists or is true, especially one without proof.”

We are not talking about proof are we... If we had proof it would not be opinion or belief.. It would be fact..

They are obviously interchangeable as I have shown


proof and evidence are not interchangable....thats where you have made your mistake

« Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 05:35:58 PM by Davel »

Offline faithlilly

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #489 on: June 23, 2019, 06:04:49 PM »
Sometimes parents have a need to stay sane to be a good parent.

Then get a babysitter.
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Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Eleanor

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #490 on: June 23, 2019, 06:12:43 PM »
Then get a babysitter.

I didn't need one.  I was only next door.

Offline Robittybob1

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #491 on: June 23, 2019, 06:42:05 PM »
I didn't need one.  I was only next door.
Sounds like the McCann situation!

[In my experience one of the strangest situations was on the night I was arrested.  I was a solo dad with 3 young children in bed asleep and their dad was locked up in the local goal  with no rights to make a phone call to sort the situation out.]
« Last Edit: June 23, 2019, 07:21:05 PM by Robittybob1 »
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: What evidence would confirm a cadaver dog alert?
« Reply #492 on: July 01, 2019, 03:33:59 PM »
Davel posted up earlier posted about a case in Scotland where the findings of a cadaver dog search were then used in a criminal trial along with much other evidence I hasten to add.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10808.msg537743#msg537743

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Suzanne_Pilley

It seems it was carried out by S.Yorks police again.  Are they the only area in the country that have these dogs?

I'm assuming investigators were able to carry out checks to determine who had previously rented the McCanns hire car?

https://aboutforensics.co.uk/detection-dogs/

If anyone has a spare 75.00 and some 6 hours to spend on 9th Nov they could always go along to Martin Grime's training course  8)--))

https://www.pact-dogs.com/members-area/product/forensic-canine-foundation-with-martin-grime/

He states that he's unable to answer questions about the McCann case as its an on-going investigation!

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