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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2700 on: May 17, 2019, 09:40:27 PM »
That they were asked anout their statements or that they were asked to do new ones?

if youve forgotten best read it again

Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2701 on: May 17, 2019, 09:43:43 PM »
the mccanns made new statements to Control risks which were given to the police...
So where did they end up?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2702 on: May 17, 2019, 09:46:02 PM »
Are you accusing Saunokonoko of lying Brietta because that is clearly libel.
No she isn't.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2703 on: May 17, 2019, 09:49:50 PM »
So where did they end up?

I believe  they were given to the pj

Offline Angelo222

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2704 on: May 17, 2019, 10:00:20 PM »
Just had a listen to podcast #10 where Mark Saunokonoko introduces comments by former Nottinghamshire police superintendent Peter McLeod in relation to the open window and shutter.  He claimed that the shutter would have been bashing down on the head of anyone trying to climb into the children's bedroom. He also claimed that an intruder would have to have put a piece of wood in or something.

Yet again we have uniformed professionals offering opinions which are completely wrong. Everyone who has experienced shutters of this type on the continent know that all anyone has to do in order to raise the shutter completely is to reach in and pull the shutter strap completely down until the shutter raises fully and locks.

I wish these idiots would keep their misinformed comments to themselves.
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2705 on: May 17, 2019, 10:16:13 PM »
You obviously  haven't understood  what you watched... Questioning is carried out in the way you describe but witness statements are not..... Witness statements  are recorded in the witnesses own language... Cites have been provided

Time to admit your mistake

What cites?

You reckon regional regional police forces record statements in Arabic, Polish and Chinese in those languages?

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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2706 on: May 17, 2019, 10:36:39 PM »
What cites?

You reckon regional regional police forces record statements in Arabic, Polish and Chinese in those languages?

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Why wouldn’t they?  You’ve read the cites.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2707 on: May 17, 2019, 10:36:58 PM »
What cites?

You reckon regional regional police forces record statements in Arabic, Polish and Chinese in those languages?

 (&^&

Post 2867...it's in English so you won't need a translator..
Witness statements recorded in the witnesses own language...

Offline Angelo222

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2708 on: May 17, 2019, 10:39:12 PM »
The final podcast is just a rehash of everything we already know but one interesting point keeps coming to the surface and that is that  information relating to the case was being carefully sifted by Leicestershire Police. One example which again we all know about was the withheld Gaspar statements which only found their way to the Portuguese police AFTER Gonçalo Amaral had been removed from the investigation. One can only but speculate as to what the consequences would have been had Amaral received these statements before being dismissed.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2709 on: May 17, 2019, 10:42:24 PM »
The final podcast is just a rehash of everything we already know but one interesting point keeps coming to the surface and that is that  information relating to the case was being carefully sifted by Leicestershire Police. One example which again we all know about was the withheld Gaspar statements which only found their way to the Portuguese police AFTER Gonçalo Amaral had been removed from the investigation. One can only but speculate as to what the consequences would have been had Amaral received these statements before being dismissed.
He would have had an extra chapter for his very slender book.  And perhaps another lawsuit to contend with.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2710 on: May 18, 2019, 06:34:02 AM »
I believe  they were given to the pj

You seem to believe a lot of things without any evidence to support them. There's no evidence that the PJ took any steps in Octobvr 2007 to check whether any of the orignal statements had been interpreted correctly  It was just a journalistic rumour imo.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2711 on: May 18, 2019, 06:50:39 AM »
The final podcast is just a rehash of everything we already know but one interesting point keeps coming to the surface and that is that  information relating to the case was being carefully sifted by Leicestershire Police. One example which again we all know about was the withheld Gaspar statements which only found their way to the Portuguese police AFTER Gonçalo Amaral had been removed from the investigation. One can only but speculate as to what the consequences would have been had Amaral received these statements before being dismissed.

He mentioned police statements being suppressed but not which. All I know is that the PJ submitted the questions to be put to the FLO's and Stuart Prior changed them. Obviously we don't know what the UK police had withdrawn from the files before they were released. The UK had no intention of being as open and transparent as the PJ about what had been done.
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Online Eleanor

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2712 on: May 18, 2019, 07:04:36 AM »
The final podcast is just a rehash of everything we already know but one interesting point keeps coming to the surface and that is that  information relating to the case was being carefully sifted by Leicestershire Police. One example which again we all know about was the withheld Gaspar statements which only found their way to the Portuguese police AFTER Gonçalo Amaral had been removed from the investigation. One can only but speculate as to what the consequences would have been had Amaral received these statements before being dismissed.

I am not convinced that Amaral didn't receive The Gaspar Statements much sooner than has been said, and were lurking somewhere in the mess he left..  They totally contradicted each other so wouldn't have been much use.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2713 on: May 18, 2019, 08:07:47 AM »
You seem to believe a lot of things without any evidence to support them. There's no evidence that the PJ took any steps in Octobvr 2007 to check whether any of the orignal statements had been interpreted correctly  It was just a journalistic rumour imo.

I don't believe anything without evidence.. So you can cut out the as hom and sniping comments that are becoming a regular part  of your posts.  The srticle is evidence of mistakes in translation... Kates statement in her book is further evidence... What the PJ did about it I don't know and have made no claims.... Which shows how even though my posts, are in English you've managed to misunderstand them... It's obvious there will be mistakes in the, statements...we just don't know how many... That's why thr UK police would not use such a poor method of recording what was, said

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.
« Reply #2714 on: May 18, 2019, 08:18:26 AM »
Do sceptics believe, based on the evidence, that there is little or no likelihood of errors in translation having been made in the statements of any of the witnesses?
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