Amaral and the dogs

[Anna]

If  a kilo of cannabis contacted my slacks, it makes a huge difference....
Was I was wearing them at the time of contact?
Or was I not wearing them, and not even in the same building, at the time of contact?

You believe it was cross contamination Pegasus? How?

[Carana]

Imagine your tshirt is signalled by a dog that signals cocaine.
And let's imagine the dog is right - your tshirt has been in direct contact with a cocaine.
Does that mean that you have handled cocaine?

A bit of trivia:
The discovery that cocaine is so prevalent in U.S. banknotes has a legal application that reactions by drug-sniffing dogs is not immediately cause for arrest of persons or confiscation of banknotes. (The drug content is too low for prosecution but not too low to trigger response to drug-sniffing dogs.),[citation needed] though this has been contested legally in a number of U.S. states[10]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contaminated_currency

[Eleanor]

Topic. Please.  And cut the insults.

[faithlilly]

And round and round it goes ad finitum.

And still the police authorities trust cadaver dogs to find dead bodies.

[Mr Gray]

And round and round it goes ad finitum.

And still the police authorities trust cadaver dogs to find dead bodies.

of course they do..that's what they are trained for..

as you are promoting corbyn...I must say you must be a Cameron supporter as corbyn will  make the labour party even more unelectable than they are now

[Eleanor]

Very amusing.  Back in a minute to delete Off Topic Posts.  Make the most of it.

[Carana]

I was checking Kate's account of doggy film show.

There's one scene that I don't recall offhand without wading through it all again.

In footage of the apartment next door to ours, one of the dogs begn to root in the corner of a room near a piece of furniture. PC Grime summoned the dog and they left the flat.

Another interesting snippet, prior to the "film show":

Now Ricardo was giving me his spiel about the dogs. 'These dogs have a 100 per cent success rate,' he said, waving an A4 document in front of me. 'Two hundred cases and they've never failed (...)'


Amaral said something similar in one of his interviews (which I posted recently), except that in his version, the dogs alerts had resulted in 200 convictions...

Despite Grime's unfortunate lack of clarity in originally stating "cases", he was clearly stating that Eddie had not reacted to meat-based foodstuffs.

[ferryman]

I was checking Kate's account of doggy film show.

There's one scene that I don't recall offhand without wading through it all again.

In footage of the apartment next door to ours, one of the dogs begn to root in the corner of a room near a piece of furniture. PC Grime summoned the dog and they left the flat.

Another interesting snippet, prior to the "film show":

Now Ricardo was giving me his spiel about the dogs. 'These dogs have a 100 per cent success rate,' he said, waving an A4 document in front of me. 'Two hundred cases and they've never failed (...)'


Amaral said something similar in one of his interviews (which I posted recently), except that in his version, the dogs alerts had resulted in 200 convictions...

Despite Grime's unfortunate lack of clarity in originally stating "cases", he was clearly stating that Eddie had not reacted to meat-based foodstuffs.

There's no reason why Eddie (trained on the scent of pig carcasses) would not react to the remnants of a joint of pork.

[stephen25000]

There's no reason why Eddie (trained on the scent of pig carcasses) would not react to the remnants of a joint of pork.

Really.

Can you also tell me how cooked pig meat would differ biochemically from an uncooked source ?

and what sources of pig meat were found to be  present at any of the sites  ?

[Alfred R Jones]

I was checking Kate's account of doggy film show.

There's one scene that I don't recall offhand without wading through it all again.

In footage of the apartment next door to ours, one of the dogs begn to root in the corner of a room near a piece of furniture. PC Grime summoned the dog and they left the flat.

Another interesting snippet, prior to the "film show":

Now Ricardo was giving me his spiel about the dogs. 'These dogs have a 100 per cent success rate,' he said, waving an A4 document in front of me. 'Two hundred cases and they've never failed (...)'


Amaral said something similar in one of his interviews (which I posted recently), except that in his version, the dogs alerts had resulted in 200 convictions...

Despite Grime's unfortunate lack of clarity in originally stating "cases", he was clearly stating that Eddie had not reacted to meat-based foodstuffs.

Does that mean that Eddie would have been no good detecting human flesh in the home of a cannibal killer, if he'd cooked the flesh first?

[mercury]

Really.

Can you also tell me how cooked pig meat would differ biochemically from an uncooked source ?

and what sources of pig meat were found to be  present at any of the sites  ?

I normally keep my pork chops and bacon rashers in my wardrobe, don't you?

[stephen25000]

I normally keep my pork chops and bacon rashers in my wardrobe, don't you?

Absolutely the best place.

After all, what use are refrigerators ?

[mercury]

Absolutely the best place.

After all, what use are refrigerators ?

None.

I see this is going to be another twilight zone veering, Eddie reacting to the remnants of a joint of pork. Out of here!!

Have a nice day.

 

[stephen25000]

None.

I see this is going to be another twilight zone veering, Eddie reacting to the remnants of a joint of pork. Out of here!!

Have a nice day.

 

Likewise.

[Carana]

There's no reason why Eddie (trained on the scent of pig carcasses) would not react to the remnants of a joint of pork.

Not sure. There is an insistence on training on decomposing pig (i.e. NOT for human consumption). We'd be very sick indeed if we ate decomposing pork.

It's not clear however, whether he (or other similarly trained dogs) would react to a discarded week-old uncooked - or even cooked - pork chop forgotten in a rubbish bin.

They may well do, but a visual inspection would presumably determine that the cause of the alert was irrelevant to the investigation and move on.


The U.K. has also approximately six Police dog teams that have been trained
exclusively on decomposing pig remains not for human consumption as
specialist dogs to work off the leash to locate human remains in a wider
variety of scenarios.

(...)

The initial training of the dog was conducted using human blood and
stil born decomposing piglets. The importance of this is that the dog is
introduced to the scent of a decomposing body NOT FOODSTUFF. This
ensures that the dog disregards the 'bacon sandwich' and 'kebab' etc that is
ever present in the background environment. Therefore the dog would
remain efficient searching for a cadaver in a café where the clientele were sat
eating bacon sandwiches.

Grime report