Amaral and the dogs

[Mr Gray]

Wrong again dave.

Grime has stated that the alerts cannot be affirmed without forensic confirmation
You are ignoring the truth

[Lace]

If they are so useless, why do you keep commenting, as do others of your ilk ?

Eh,  Stephen the heading of this thread is 'Amaral and the dogs'   so commenting on the dogs is part of the discussion on this thread wakey wakey.

[Lace]

The dogs were trained to respond to a specific range of compounds.

They indicated in several locations.

The clear metaphorical blindness is shared by you and others.

 That is why you continue to cut and paste articles again and again.

Quote -   'the dogs were trained to respond to a specific range of compounds'

Yes,   and Eddie was trained with pig carcass's they use pig in garden fertiliser  he could very well have alerted to the smell of that.

[Lace]

Grime has stated that the alerts cannot be affirmed without forensic confirmation
You are ignoring the truth

Exactly so in other words,   Eddie might be alerting to something other than cadaver scent.

[Lace]

Grime has stated that the alerts cannot be affirmed without forensic confirmation
You are ignoring the truth

Exactly,   that about covers everything.

[pegasus]

Quote -   'the dogs were trained to respond to a specific range of compounds'

Yes,   and Eddie was trained with pig carcass's they use pig in garden fertiliser  he could very well have alerted to the smell of that.

What about horses?

[Alfred R Jones]

I had made my point already to which you replied,  "you really have no idea at all. "

My reply was removed,  so I made it again.

Your rudeness had survived intact, otherwise I wouldn`t have bothered.

You really have no idea at all.

[Lace]

What about horses?

Horses?

[Carew]

Horses?

Horse manure, maybe?

[Brietta]

The dogs were trained to respond to a specific range of compounds.

They indicated in several locations.

The clear metaphorical blindness is shared by you and others.

 That is why you continue to cut and paste articles again and again.

I cut and paste different articles to substantiate my posts by providing a cite ... I thoroughly recommend it to you.
It may be worth noting that on the few occasions I do not post a cite ... I am invariably asked to provide one.

You claim to be a scientist and an educationalist which makes it all the more surprising that you display such resistance to accepting the pace of scientific research leading to advancements in our knowledge of precisely what compounds of decay Victim Recovery Dogs may be reacting to.

Mr Grime knew the legal situation regarding the need to establish corroboration of Eddie's alerts; he took pains to lay them out precisely in his statements which are recorded in the files.

I would have assumed that one of a scientific bent like yourself, particularly a chemist, might have taken that in conjunction with scientific studies and worked things out for yourself as to the irrelevance of Eddie's alerts.

[pegasus]

Horses?

Sorry I withdraw that. I thought I found a video of Eddie locating 100 year old horse remains. But I have listened again and I had misheard pelvic cavity of a "horse" when it wasn't "horse" at all
Anyway the video is interesting because it confirms Eddie's reward was a tennis ball (not a cuddly toy).
http://youtu.be/NmdkR1K-jU0?t=2m8s

[Brietta]

Which means that your pig fertiliser possibility is no more likely a source for the alerts than the cadaver of the missing person.

The "discussions" and derogatory comments are intended to give that impression, though aren`t they?

I find it mystifying that people remain adamant that Madeleine McCann died in the apartment without the existence of even a modicum of evidence in support.

[stephen25000]

I cut and paste different articles to substantiate my posts by providing a cite ... I thoroughly recommend it to you.
It may be worth noting that on the few occasions I do not post a cite ... I am invariably asked to provide one.

You claim to be a scientist and an educationalist which makes it all the more surprising that you display such resistance to accepting the pace of scientific research leading to advancements in our knowledge of precisely what compounds of decay Victim Recovery Dogs may be reacting to.

Mr Grime knew the legal situation regarding the need to establish corroboration of Eddie's alerts; he took pains to lay them out precisely in his statements which are recorded in the files.

I would have assumed that one of a scientific bent like yourself, particularly a chemist, might have taken that in conjunction with scientific studies and worked things out for yourself as to the irrelevance of Eddie's alerts.

Your posts don't reflect scientific belief or logic.

They merely reflect cutting and pasting of anything which you believe gives doubt to the indications of the dogs.

I have stated numerous times that the forensic analysis of the collected samples was inconclusive, but what the dogs indicated can be viewed in terms of sheer probability.

There is nothing else in this case which has come to light, no matter yours and others protestations.

That is why you and your fellow brethren continue on this thread, and for that read Newton's Third Law.

[stephen25000]

I find it mystifying that people remain adamant that Madeleine McCann died in the apartment without the existence of even a modicum of evidence in support.

Tell that to Redwood.

He admitted as such.

[Brietta]

There can be no doubt that Mr Grime knew the targets before sending in the dogs.  He knew which apartment the McCanns had occupied with Madeleine prior to her disappearance, he knew which car was rented by them and he knew it was their clothing which was laid out on the gym floor.  For me the entire exercise was a fiasco and yet another waste of money.

I think that is a perfect scenario for clever Hans to come into effect ... I think close observation of the videos would tend to reinforce that opinion.

I think the dogs were brought in far too late to be of any value to the investigation.