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Offline faithlilly

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3660 on: October 03, 2018, 12:33:50 AM »
IMO the CPS will be involved in forwarding to Portugal any relevant evidence/proof the Met. have uncovered during the course of their investigative review. There will be no prosecution in the UK as the Met have been denied certain investigative avenues in Portugal e.g. DNA swabs from the "burglars".

It is obvious that you have no understanding of the CPS’s role Misty.
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Offline misty

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3661 on: October 03, 2018, 12:50:41 AM »
It is obvious that you have no understanding of the CPS’s role Misty.

Perhaps you'd care to explain their role, outside the handling of ILOR's, in a non-UK crime investigation review for the benefit of those of us who don't understand.

ETA Perhaps this will help explain how complicated it is.
http://library.college.police.uk/docs/appref/european-cross-border-investigations.pdf
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Offline Sunny

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3662 on: October 03, 2018, 07:12:11 AM »
When parallel proceedings are coordinated, competent
authorities should consider dealing with all
the prosecutions in one jurisdiction, provided doing
so is practicable, taking into account the effect that
prosecuting some defendants in one jurisdiction
might have on any prosecution in a second or third
jurisdiction. Every effort should be made to prevent
one prosecution from undermining another.
` The decision on where to prosecute should be
reached as early as possible in the investigation or
prosecution process and in full consultation with
all the relevant authorities in each jurisdiction.
` Eurojust is in a privileged position to offer assistance
to the concerned authorities in their efforts
to cooperate and find solutions, at any time in all
of the previous steps, and even to identify cases
pending in Member States


So Misty the CPS can operate in another member state. 

The above is the Eurojust guidelines published in 2017. Cite below

http://www.eurojust.europa.eu/doclibrary/Eurojust-framework/Casework/Guidelines%20for%20deciding%20which%20jurisdiction%20should%20prosecute%20(2016)/2016_Jurisdiction-Guidelines_EN.pdf
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3663 on: October 03, 2018, 11:00:31 AM »
I should think there’s a clue in the name, particularly the second word.

They have a huge website which I commend to you.
You may then be able to make a sensible comment on the role of the CPS.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3664 on: October 03, 2018, 11:14:02 AM »
IMO the CPS will be involved in forwarding to Portugal any relevant evidence/proof the Met. have uncovered during the course of their investigative review. There will be no prosecution in the UK as the Met have been denied certain investigative avenues in Portugal e.g. DNA swabs from the "burglars".

Is it a fact that the Met were denied DNA swabs, or one of them there media rumours?
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3665 on: October 03, 2018, 11:44:03 AM »
Is it a fact that the Met were denied DNA swabs, or one of them there media rumours?

In either event it would be interesting to know what they would compare them with?
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3666 on: October 03, 2018, 01:19:31 PM »
In either event it would be interesting to know what they would compare them with?
There were hairs found in the apartment that could not be assigned to a known person. "4 - Mitochondrial DNA study" http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm
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Offline ShiningInLuz

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3667 on: October 03, 2018, 01:54:48 PM »
There were hairs found in the apartment that could not be assigned to a known person. "4 - Mitochondrial DNA study" http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm
You might want to start a separate thread for this i.e. unmatched hairs.

In the past few days it has been established that Emma Knight was in 5a, and I don't remember her getting DNA tested.

Perhaps my memory is playing tricks on me, but isn't Officer Duarte in the 'entered 5a/untested' category?
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Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3668 on: October 03, 2018, 01:55:13 PM »
There were hairs found in the apartment that could not be assigned to a known person. "4 - Mitochondrial DNA study" http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm

Mitochondrial DNA can't be assigned to a known person anyway.  Jane Tanner, for example, matched mitochondrial DNA found in an apartment in Burgau, but no-one suggested she was there.
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Offline Sunny

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3669 on: October 03, 2018, 03:44:20 PM »
'Maddie's still in Portugal': Detective who worked on Madeleine McCann case believes she could be alive with no idea of world-wide hunt to find her - as police ask for more cash for search

Former detective Dave Edgar believes missing Madeleine McCann is still alive
Speaking last year Mr Edgar claimed the disappearance was 'intricately planned'
Mr Edgar said it was 'unlikely' that Madeleine was smuggled out of the country

A former detective has revealed he remains 'hopeful' that Madeleine McCann will be found alive in Portugal.

Former Detective Inspector Dave Edgar was hired by Kate and Gerry McCann to look into their daughter's disappearance and worked on the case for three years before it was taken over by the Met Police in 2011.

Speaking out today, Mr Edgar believes the case is 'solvable' and maintains there are 'people out there who know what happened'.

Last year Mr Edgar claimed the kidnapper was being protected and said the disappearance was 'intricately planned by a gang of paedophiles'.

He once said he believed Madeleine was being held in an underground cell or dungeon, like the victims of Josef Fritzl.

Mr Edgar told The Sun today there is still the chance of a breakthrough, adding: '[Madeleine] could literally be anywhere in the world but my hunch is that she is in Portugal.

The chance that she may have been smuggled out of the country without being detected is highly unlikely. There is someone in Portugal with an open knowledge of where she is and what happened.'

Last week, the Home Office confirmed it was considering an application from Scotland Yard for more funding to continue the hunt for the youngster.

In a blog published on September 26, it said: 'We have received and are considering a request from the Metropolitan Police Service to extend funding for Operation Grange until the end of March 2019.

'The Home Office maintains an ongoing dialogue with the MPS regarding funding for Operation Grange.'

Scotland Yard launched Operation Grange in 2013 after a Portuguese inquiry failed to make any headway.

UK detectives were granted an extra £150,000 in March to continue the probe, to cover until the end of September.

Operation Grange has cost £11.6 million so far.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6234789/Detective-worked-Madeleine-McCann-case-believes-alive.html
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Offline barrier

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3670 on: October 03, 2018, 04:06:44 PM »
'Maddie's still in Portugal': Detective who worked on Madeleine McCann case believes she could be alive with no idea of world-wide hunt to find her - as police ask for more cash for search

Former detective Dave Edgar believes missing Madeleine McCann is still alive
Speaking last year Mr Edgar claimed the disappearance was 'intricately planned'
Mr Edgar said it was 'unlikely' that Madeleine was smuggled out of the country

A former detective has revealed he remains 'hopeful' that Madeleine McCann will be found alive in Portugal.

Former Detective Inspector Dave Edgar was hired by Kate and Gerry McCann to look into their daughter's disappearance and worked on the case for three years before it was taken over by the Met Police in 2011.

Speaking out today, Mr Edgar believes the case is 'solvable' and maintains there are 'people out there who know what happened'.

Last year Mr Edgar claimed the kidnapper was being protected and said the disappearance was 'intricately planned by a gang of paedophiles'.

He once said he believed Madeleine was being held in an underground cell or dungeon, like the victims of Josef Fritzl.

Mr Edgar told The Sun today there is still the chance of a breakthrough, adding: '[Madeleine] could literally be anywhere in the world but my hunch is that she is in Portugal.

The chance that she may have been smuggled out of the country without being detected is highly unlikely. There is someone in Portugal with an open knowledge of where she is and what happened.'

Last week, the Home Office confirmed it was considering an application from Scotland Yard for more funding to continue the hunt for the youngster.

In a blog published on September 26, it said: 'We have received and are considering a request from the Metropolitan Police Service to extend funding for Operation Grange until the end of March 2019.

'The Home Office maintains an ongoing dialogue with the MPS regarding funding for Operation Grange.'

Scotland Yard launched Operation Grange in 2013 after a Portuguese inquiry failed to make any headway.

UK detectives were granted an extra £150,000 in March to continue the probe, to cover until the end of September.

Operation Grange has cost £11.6 million so far.


https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6234789/Detective-worked-Madeleine-McCann-case-believes-alive.html

Highlighted in red,is he speaking this year,last year or what?
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Offline Sunny

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3671 on: October 03, 2018, 04:18:29 PM »
Highlighted in red,is he speaking this year,last year or what?

Amazing thoughts on his part today.

Speaking out today, Mr Edgar believes the case is 'solvable' and maintains there are 'people out there who know what happened'.

No shxt Sherlock!
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Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3672 on: October 03, 2018, 05:41:12 PM »
Highlighted in red,is he speaking this year,last year or what?

It's a retread of that which has gone before with the usual photos. The originator seems to be Tracy in The Sun; others have picked it up.
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Offline Robittybob1

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3673 on: October 03, 2018, 05:55:24 PM »
Mitochondrial DNA can't be assigned to a known person anyway.  Jane Tanner, for example, matched mitochondrial DNA found in an apartment in Burgau, but no-one suggested she was there.
You would have a reason to look at it again if it does.
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Offline G-Unit

Re: General discussion about the latest news (not search related)
« Reply #3674 on: October 03, 2018, 07:06:30 PM »
Amazing thoughts on his part today.

Speaking out today, Mr Edgar believes the case is 'solvable' and maintains there are 'people out there who know what happened'.

No shxt Sherlock!

Perhaps he's letting everyone know he's still available as Operation Grange seems to be tip-toeing away. 
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