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Offline John

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4080 on: August 04, 2018, 01:50:05 PM »
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4081 on: August 04, 2018, 04:25:28 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 04, 2018, 09:15:06 AM
When it comes to the law cherry picking is the norm

It is clear to me that the SC have stated that the McCanns do not benefit from the POI because the investigation did not deem them innocent....that is a crystal clear  breach of the ECHR

For some reason you have ignored my post (2 before yours) in which the SC Address the POI issue.
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4082 on: August 04, 2018, 04:31:06 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 04, 2018, 11:55:39 AM
You have not provided a cite where they claim the McCann's are innocent ...it's clear they are invoking the POI

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2.2. The appellants complete their allegations with the following conclusions :

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c. It shakes also the honour, the good name and the image of any innocent person, and already cleared before through the filing dispatch of a criminal investigation

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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4083 on: August 04, 2018, 05:21:55 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 04, 2018, 04:25:28 PM
For some reason you have ignored my post (2 before yours) in which the SC Address the POI issue.

im only on here 23/7 now
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4084 on: August 04, 2018, 05:22:30 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 04, 2018, 04:31:06 PM


epic fail by you imo...no mention of the word innocent
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4085 on: August 04, 2018, 05:29:24 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on August 04, 2018, 11:17:21 AM
Perhaps because the original translations made by Astro etc are actually quite accurate in most instances. Once the supporters admit the translations are good to go then they lose that stick to beat the sceptics with.

Of course they do have a supposed Portuguese speakers eg Pedro. I am sure he/she could have done a translation in 11 years, assuming they do speak Portuguese of course
I thought you were new to this scene - how do you know about Pedro?
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Offline jassi

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4086 on: August 04, 2018, 05:33:03 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 04, 2018, 05:29:24 PM
I thought you were new to this scene - how do you know about Pedro?

Perhaps only new to this forum.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4087 on: August 04, 2018, 05:34:25 PM »
Quote from: jassi on August 04, 2018, 05:33:03 PM
Perhaps only new to this forum.
Gave the impression of being new to the case too unless I’m very much mistaken.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4088 on: August 04, 2018, 05:46:24 PM »
I am new to the case and new to McCann forums too. I became interested because of Brenda leyland.  I did a lot of looking before I decided which forum to join and I decided on this one.

I have spent a lot of time reading up on the case and that has involved me reading forums as well as the files.  I read a lot of posts on here for months before I committed to joining by the way.
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Offline Sunny

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4089 on: August 04, 2018, 05:58:53 PM »
Quote from: Vertigo Swirl on August 04, 2018, 05:55:52 PM
Yes I do.

OK thanks Vertigo Swirl (great name by the way)
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4090 on: August 04, 2018, 06:03:51 PM »
Quote from: Sunny on August 04, 2018, 05:58:53 PM
OK thanks Vertigo Swirl (great name by the way)
Thanks!
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4091 on: August 04, 2018, 06:17:59 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 04, 2018, 05:22:30 PM
epic fail by you imo...no mention of the word innocent

What do you think cleared means?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4092 on: August 04, 2018, 06:46:58 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 04, 2018, 06:17:59 PM
What do you think cleared means?

well it doesnt mean proved innocent does it...cleared of their suspect status posssibly.......I dont think there is a precise legal definition
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Offline slartibartfast

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4093 on: August 04, 2018, 06:54:27 PM »
Quote from: Davel on August 04, 2018, 06:46:58 PM
well it doesnt mean proved innocent does it...ckeared of their suspect status posssibly.......I dont think there is a precise legal definition

If cleared doesn’t relate to innocent, then not cleared, which is what the SC said, must likewise be unrelated.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #4094 on: August 04, 2018, 07:01:45 PM »
Quote from: slartibartfast on August 04, 2018, 06:54:27 PM
If cleared doesn’t relate to innocent, then not cleared, which is what the SC said, must likewise be unrelated.

cleared relates to innocence.....but doesnt mean innocent
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