Sceptics beliefs ?

[Mr Gray]

In my opinion you are simply airing your opinions about your 'skills' and about the McCanns.

I think you continually underestimate the value of opinions based on evidence... Without them there would be no justice system

[The General]

Thank you Brietta.
You have explaned exactly my motive for starting this thread.
From time to time I do wonder what keeps sceptics so committed to their variety of beliefs in parental complicity in Madeleine's disappearance.
So much of their commitment  to their belief in complicity seems to depend on concerns which do not as yet seem to have aroused the same suspicions in both current police investigations.

Conversely, I see 'believers' in the same way I perceive religious people - despite none of the 'evidence' making sense, and all of the senses screaming the opposite, they blindly and blithely dismiss anything contrary to their belief system out of hand. And I'll hazard a guess that the majority of believers also believe in the benevolent, judgmental sky fairy.
All my humble / biased / skewed / ill-informed / self-aggrandising  / egotistical opinion of course, but read it quick as it will be deleted as per usual.

[The General]

Yar, that could be okay..But don't hold hold your breath.

We're here for a good time, not a long time.

[Mr Gray]

Conversely, I see 'believers' in the same way I perceive religious people - despite none of the 'evidence' making sense, and all of the senses screaming the opposite, they blindly and blithely dismiss anything contrary to their belief system out of hand. And I'll hazard a guess that the majority of believers also believe in the benevolent, judgmental sky fairy.
All my humble / biased / skewed / ill-informed / self-aggrandising  / egotistical opinion of course, but read it quick as it will be deleted as per usual.

I see sceptics as those that don't understand  the evidence

[Wonderfulspam]

I see sceptics as those that don't understand  the evidence

I think the problem is that us sceptics are so overwhelmed by the sheer weight & volume of abduction evidence that it's impossible for us to comprehend it.

[The General]

I see sceptics as those that don't understand  the evidence

Yeh, I see that now. I've got no problem with it whatsoever. Simply can't be arsed arguing on the internet about the minutiae of the scent glands per square inch on a Beagle's nose, or the latch mechanism on a bespoke, wooden slatted garden gate circa 2005.

[Mr Gray]

Yeh, I see that now. I've got no problem with it whatsoever. Simply can't be arsed arguing on the internet about the minutiae of the scent glands per square inch on a Beagle's nose, or the latch mechanism on a bespoke, wooden slatted garden gate circa 2005.

There's no need to... No evidential value or reliability is all that needs to be understood

[Eleanor]

Conversely, I see 'believers' in the same way I perceive religious people - despite none of the 'evidence' making sense, and all of the senses screaming the opposite, they blindly and blithely dismiss anything contrary to their belief system out of hand. And I'll hazard a guess that the majority of believers also believe in the benevolent, judgmental sky fairy.
All my humble / biased / skewed / ill-informed / self-aggrandising  / egotistical opinion of course, but read it quick as it will be deleted as per usual.

For why would I want to Delete that pile of rubbish?  RUBBJSH?  Rubbish speaks. for itself does iy not.

[Brietta]

From what I can distill down from it, there is this view of a stereotypical sceptic who all believe all of the same facets and are equally vociferous and immovable, like the Borg, assimilated and speaking in unison.
It really isn't like that at all. From what I see there are diverging views on various aspects even amongst us sceptics.
It's a bit harsh to suggest that 'we' have 'rejected' an opportunity for enlightenment and understanding  - I think if you read back you will find that we were badgered incessantly from the get go as soon as we opened up. I personally faced the indignation of a public text-flogging for revealing one of the reasons that made me sceptical - so we're invited in, then hoofed around like an abductee in a Moldovan shipping container. (That's a joke, please delete as usual)
But I'm stupid enough and old enough to get on with it, but I'm glad you found the exercise useful.

I find the thread informative as opposed to ‘useful’ insofar as it has informed my already existing prejudices.

What exactly are the ‘diverging views’ you think?                                                                                           
In my time I seem to recall ‘clones’ being quietly dropped by some and ‘diplomatic bags containing a corpse’ being relegated to the vaults by others.

Haven’t heard too much about the fridge of late … so does the divergence of opinion concern the cremation theory 2017 – the death on Sunday or whenever – surely there can’t be a falling out of favour or divergence of the dogs?

[Erngath]

Conversely, I see 'believers' in the same way I perceive religious people - despite none of the 'evidence' making sense, and all of the senses screaming the opposite, they blindly and blithely dismiss anything contrary to their belief system out of hand. And I'll hazard a guess that the majority of believers also believe in the benevolent, judgmental sky fairy.
All my humble / biased / skewed / ill-informed / self-aggrandising  / egotistical opinion of course, but read it quick as it will be deleted as per usual.

However, as of yet, and until now, and until some time at a later date, both current police investigations must also be "blindly and blithely dismissing anything contrary to their belief system out of hand"

[Brietta]

Conversely, I see 'believers' in the same way I perceive religious people - despite none of the 'evidence' making sense, and all of the senses screaming the opposite, they blindly and blithely dismiss anything contrary to their belief system out of hand. And I'll hazard a guess that the majority of believers also believe in the benevolent, judgmental sky fairy.
All my humble / biased / skewed / ill-informed / self-aggrandising  / egotistical opinion of course, but read it quick as it will be deleted as per usual.

Do you include the Judicial police – the Public Prosecutors – the Attorney General of Portugal in that list?  These were instrumental in lifting the arguido status from Madeleine’s parents.  Where did they go wrong?

[The General]

For why would I want to Delete that pile of rubbish?  RUBBJSH?  Rubbish speaks. for itself does iy not.

OK. Thanks.

[The General]

Do you include the Judicial police – the Public Prosecutors – the Attorney General of Portugal in that list?  These were instrumental in lifting the arguido status from Madeleine’s parents.  Where did they go wrong?

No.
The onus probandi rests with the assertion.

[The General]

I find the thread informative as opposed to ‘useful’ insofar as it has informed my already existing prejudices.

What exactly are the ‘diverging views’ you think?                                                                                           
In my time I seem to recall ‘clones’ being quietly dropped by some and ‘diplomatic bags containing a corpse’ being relegated to the vaults by others.

Haven’t heard too much about the fridge of late … so does the divergence of opinion concern the cremation theory 2017 – the death on Sunday or whenever – surely there can’t be a falling out of favour or divergence of the dogs?

You've sort of proved the point - there's plenty of sceptics who thought the fridge thing was farcical.
There's plenty of sceptics who thought the cremation theory was lunacy.
Clones? Gimme a fricking break.....dya see a pattern emerging here.......

I've said it before, there's a spectrum of belief - some believers think the wee an went looking for her mam, some think she was stolen to order. Some think she was stolen by burglars

[Venturi Swirl]

And good luck to him. Money made honestly by writing a best selling book.....or certainly when compared to raiding the fund to find  your child to pay for your mortgage.

Yawn.