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Offline G-Unit

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2190 on: April 28, 2019, 03:37:43 PM »
What's the difference between opinions and theories and beliefs?

In my opinion a belief is a conclusion, an opinion is a possibility and a theory is an explanation. Beliefs are stronger than the other two because they can't be proved or disproved. They are related to faith, not evidence. People who believe in God can't prove he exists. Those who don't believe can't prove he doesn't either.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2191 on: April 28, 2019, 03:38:01 PM »
He signed his statement as being correct and that can be used as evidence so it does matter.

No it can't because it's a witness statement not an arguido statement

Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2192 on: April 28, 2019, 03:53:47 PM »
In my opinion a belief is a conclusion, an opinion is a possibility and a theory is an explanation. Beliefs are stronger than the other two because they can't be proved or disproved. They are related to faith, not evidence. People who believe in God can't prove he exists. Those who don't believe can't prove he doesn't either.
. Beliefs can be proven.  I believe Madeleine was abducted by a stranger and one day that belief may be proven.  Next!
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2193 on: April 28, 2019, 04:13:40 PM »
In my opinion a belief is a conclusion, an opinion is a possibility and a theory is an explanation. Beliefs are stronger than the other two because they can't be proved or disproved. They are related to faith, not evidence. People who believe in God can't prove he exists. Those who don't believe can't prove he doesn't either.

So when scientist day they believe the universe is 14 million years old they've just plucked that figure out of the air and don't have evidence to back it up... Beliefs can and and often are based on evidence...

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2194 on: April 28, 2019, 04:29:11 PM »
In my opinion a belief is a conclusion, an opinion is a possibility and a theory is an explanation. Beliefs are stronger than the other two because they can't be proved or disproved. They are related to faith, not evidence. People who believe in God can't prove he exists. Those who don't believe can't prove he doesn't either.

In my opinion.. Maddie was abducted
I have a theory Maddie was abducted
I believe Maddie was abducted.... All based in the same evidence... So where's the difference

Offline faithlilly

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2195 on: April 28, 2019, 04:40:25 PM »
You believe  what you want... And so will I... It doesn't matter

But it does matter. Even when faced with proof of something you deny it. This proves that your belief in the parent’s innocence is not based on a dispassionate, object consideration of the evidence but on blind faith.
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2196 on: April 28, 2019, 04:46:39 PM »
But it does matter. Even when faced with proof of something you deny it. This proves that your belief in the parent’s innocence is not based on a dispassionate, object consideration of the evidence but on blind faith.

in your opinion...where is the proof  you are talking about...show me the proof and your post has some validity ...without it its just your opinion presented as fact and therefore basically worthless imo

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2197 on: April 28, 2019, 05:00:52 PM »
In my opinion.. Maddie was abducted
I have a theory Maddie was abducted
I believe Maddie was abducted.... All based in the same evidence... So where's the difference

You talk about evidence so what is it? What is your theory?
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Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2198 on: April 28, 2019, 05:14:46 PM »
You talk about evidence so what is it? What is your theory?

lete see faiths proof first...i think we will have a long wait

Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2199 on: April 28, 2019, 05:35:17 PM »
But it does matter. Even when faced with proof of something you deny it. This proves that your belief in the parent’s innocence is not based on a dispassionate, object consideration of the evidence but on blind faith.
The thing about fantasising is that it is the gift that keeps on giving irrespective of of probability or veracity.  I don't believe even Amaral suggested that Kate was an MI5 operative yet in the run up to another year of Madeleine's absence, a highly noted Portuguese journalist and author has made the allegation.

I find that quite remarkable ... and I will not be too surprised to see it adopted as the latest factoid on #mccann et al.
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Offline Venturi Swirl

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2200 on: April 28, 2019, 05:36:40 PM »
You talk about evidence so what is it? What is your theory?
This thread is about sceptics beliefs.  Apparently they have none because they are sceptics.  What a load of bull!
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2201 on: April 28, 2019, 05:51:13 PM »
The thing about fantasising is that it is the gift that keeps on giving irrespective of of probability or veracity.  I don't believe even Amaral suggested that Kate was an MI5 operative yet in the run up to another year of Madeleine's absence, a highly noted Portuguese journalist and author has made the allegation.

I find that quite remarkable ... and I will not be too surprised to see it adopted as the latest factoid on #mccann et al.

I agree with your first sentence.

One can fantasise about an abduction for starters, one abductor or maybe even 2, hell why stop at 2?
Perhaps there was a whole coach party of abductors, 'watchers' keeping look out, getaway cars warmed in waiting, abductors making practice runs in the apartment the night before, bloodlines, paedophile rings....It's entertaining if nothing else.
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Offline Brietta

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2202 on: April 28, 2019, 05:58:02 PM »
I agree with your first sentence.

One can fantasise about an abduction for starters, one abductor or maybe even 2, hell why stop at 2?
Perhaps there was a whole coach party of abductors, 'watchers' keeping look out, getaway cars warmed in waiting, abductors making practice runs in the apartment the night before, bloodlines, paedophile rings....It's entertaining if nothing else.
  ... and there I think we have yet another sceptic belief laid bare ... the life of a family is "entertaining if nothing else".

Maybe if you are on the outside looking in ... but it must be hell for the family experiencing it all.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....

Offline barrier

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2203 on: April 28, 2019, 06:00:05 PM »
  ... and there I think we have yet another sceptic belief laid bare ... the life of a family is "entertaining if nothing else".

Maybe if you are on the outside looking in ... but it must be hell for the family experiencing it all.


Are they looking in on this?
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Offline Wonderfulspam

Re: Sceptics beliefs ?
« Reply #2204 on: April 28, 2019, 06:14:37 PM »
  ... and there I think we have yet another sceptic belief laid bare ... the life of a family is "entertaining if nothing else".

Maybe if you are on the outside looking in ... but it must be hell for the family experiencing it all.

That's assuming they don't really know what happened to Maddie.

We can't be certain that they don't.
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