Sadie's theory, the watcher and a getaway car.

[Robittybob1]

That's not an opinion, that's what those of us intelligent enough to recognise it a fact.

It is a theory so how can you say that it isn't a fact that the theoretical car didn't exist.  OK it might not exist in your preferred theory but that is just another theory.

[pathfinder73]

Nobody thought anything was unusual that night except for the McCanns when they entered their apartment on their checks (Gerry's first visual check on the person that disappeared - fascinating) i.e. both say it was the children's door having moved that made them investigate it. Lucky the door had moved or they wouldn't have known if Madeleine was there or not. Let's not have a visual check like normal to check on them but do it because of a moving door  Time to find the key 

[Robittybob1]

Nobody thought anything was unusual that night except for the McCanns when they entered their apartment on their checks (Gerry's first visual check on the person that disappeared - fascinating) i.e. both say it was the children's door having moved that made them investigate it. Lucky the door had moved or they wouldn't have known if Madeleine was there or not. Let's not have a visual check like normal to check on them but do it because of a moving door  Time to find the key 

Is that the KEY that unlocks this mystery?

[Brietta]

It is a theory so how can you say that it isn't a fact that the theoretical car didn't exist.  OK it might not exist in your preferred theory but that is just another theory.

Precisely:  an opinion is an opinion a theory is a theory and a fact is a fact.  The first two I consider can be categorised as 'informed' or 'uninformed'.  Sadie's theory is in my opinion an informed one; but even so she has never pretended it is fact and remains open to discussion which might add to or detract from it.

In my opinion ~ so far I have seen put downs and ridicule but nothing of substance to refute any of the salient points that Sadie has raised.

[slartibartfast]

Without evidence that Sadie's vehicle existed it rectifies nothing. It's an imaginary vehicle.

With some evidence it would be an opinion as to if it had anything to do with the disappearance.

[stephen25000]

Precisely:  an opinion is an opinion a theory is a theory and a fact is a fact.  The first two I consider can be categorised as 'informed' or 'uninformed'.  Sadie's theory is in my opinion an informed one; but even so she has never pretended it is fact and remains open to discussion which might add to or detract from it.

In my opinion ~ so far I have seen put downs and ridicule but nothing of substance to refute any of the salient points that Sadie has raised.

Sadie, is merely giving vent to her theories, which cannot be proved.

Now, pray tell, what evidence is there that an abductor(s) ever existed ?

[Alice Purjorick]

. After leaving Block 6, they turned right and after left, passing in front of the block occupied by the McCanns. She states that she saw no movement of people, and that in the immediate areas of the blocks she saw no vehicle with the exception of a small car, that appeared to her grey in colour, parked close to the window of the McCann apartment;

She declares further that she mentioned this fact to her boyfriend and that it wasn't yet summer given the movement on the roads, and at that hour movement was nill;

. States that she looked at the exit of the apartment and that from the flat above the McCanns, she saw light, and also in from of the apartment, but she could not define, concretely, where she saw the light when she passed the McCann apartment;

. Next to the tree, she did not detect any movement of people or vehicles, and nothing struck her as abnormal in that zone that would have raised her suspicions;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_INFORMATION.htm


At least one vehicle left the Block six parking area before the alarm was raised that Madeleine was missing from her bed.  No-one noticed either its departure or the route it took.

If one vehicle moved without comment from the area designated in Sadie's theory, in my opinion it is not outwith the bounds of possibility there could well have been others.

I think Sadie's theory is workable and so far I've seen no valid argument which debunks that.

In my opinion ... You haven't been paying attention then. That of course is your prerogative.


Caveat added

[Brietta]

You can add Jane, Russell and Jez to that list. No getaway car. No sounds. Mrs Fenn heard nothing from below. Nothing unusual for Matt on two checks within 30 minutes. Moyes on the balcony heard nothing. Maybe there was nothing to hear ? Yes the simple explanation leads you to the truth! They know all about Smithman now.

There was nothing to hear?  Yet Madeleine is gone.

Either before or after that event it is my opinion that a vehicle was a prerequisite to remove her unseen from the vicinity.

Sadie's theory covers that eventuality which in my opinion is one of the immediate probabilities the investigation should have investigated with more vigour than perhaps they did.

[stephen25000]

There was nothing to hear?  Yet Madeleine is gone.

Either before or after that event it is my opinion that a vehicle was a prerequisite to remove her unseen from the vicinity.

Sadie's theory covers that eventuality which in my opinion is one of the immediate probabilities the investigation should have investigated with more vigour than perhaps they did.

Precisely, just an opinion.

[Eleanor]

Sadie, is merely giving vent to her theories, which cannot be proved.

Now, pray tell, what evidence is there that an abductor(s) ever existed ?

And you have some evidence that an abductor never did?

But then of course you don't.

[Alice Purjorick]

There was nothing to hear?  Yet Madeleine is gone.

Either before or after that event it is my opinion that a vehicle was a prerequisite to remove her unseen from the vicinity.

Sadie's theory covers that eventuality which in my opinion is one of the immediate probabilities the investigation should have investigated with more vigour than perhaps they did.

Demonstrate that the initial investigation did not address this issue with the degree of vigour necessary.

[stephen25000]

And you have some evidence that an abductor never did?

But then of course you don't.

The whole point is, that to prove an abductor existed, you need evidence.

I have yet to see unassailable evidence of that.

[Brietta]

Precisely, just an opinion.

In my opinion ... a constructive opinion which is all perfectly workable and commensurate with the circumstances surrounding Madeleine McCann's disappearance.  The investigation of which in my opinion could have been classed as one in which "none so blind as those who will not see" seemed to prevail.

[Brietta]

Demonstrate that the initial investigation did not address this issue with the degree of vigour necessary.

Snip
Neither border nor marine police were given descriptions of Madeleine for many hours, and officers did not appear to make extensive door-to-door inquiries.[70] According to Madeleine's mother, roadblocks were first put in place at 10 am the next morning.[54] Police did not request motorway surveillance pictures of vehicles leaving Praia da Luz that night, or of the road between Lagos and Vila Real de Santo António on the Spanish border; the company that monitors the road, Euroscut, said they were not approached for information.[71] It took Interpol five days to issue a global missing-person alert.[54]
https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmXoypizjW3WknFiJnKLwHCnL72vedxjQkDDP1mXWo6uco/wiki/Disappearance_of_Madeleine_McCann.html

[G-Unit]

. After leaving Block 6, they turned right and after left, passing in front of the block occupied by the McCanns. She states that she saw no movement of people, and that in the immediate areas of the blocks she saw no vehicle with the exception of a small car, that appeared to her grey in colour, parked close to the window of the McCann apartment;

She declares further that she mentioned this fact to her boyfriend and that it wasn't yet summer given the movement on the roads, and at that hour movement was nill;

. States that she looked at the exit of the apartment and that from the flat above the McCanns, she saw light, and also in from of the apartment, but she could not define, concretely, where she saw the light when she passed the McCann apartment;

. Next to the tree, she did not detect any movement of people or vehicles, and nothing struck her as abnormal in that zone that would have raised her suspicions;
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/TIME_LINE_INFORMATION.htm


At least one vehicle left the Block six parking area before the alarm was raised that Madeleine was missing from her bed.  No-one noticed either its departure or the route it took.

If one vehicle moved without comment from the area designated in Sadie's theory, in my opinion it is not outwith the bounds of possibility there could well have been others.

I think Sadie's theory is workable and so far I've seen no valid argument which debunks that.

The car you refer to was in the north car park belonging to block 6.