Sadie's theory, the watcher and a getaway car.

[jassi]

I would be interested to know why you think he would lie about the twins breathing.  Especially as they obviously were.

I'm sure you would but you would then say I'm accusing  Matt of not telling the truth and delete me, so I can't.

[Eleanor]

I'm sure you would but you would then say I'm accusing  Matt of not telling the truth and delete me, so I can't.

It would be entirely dishonourable for me to behave in such a fashion, having first asked you.  Providing that your reply is not Libellous.
But we both know that you are more than capable of couching your reply without libelling anyone.

The one thing I never do is to underestimate the intellect of any member of this Forum, least of all those of a different persuasion to mine.
This does make me wonder for why any of you are so often motivated to cause controversy.  It is always unnecessary.  And you wouldn't get away with it at The Oxford Debating Society.

[jassi]

OK, lets see how long you allow this to stand.

I consider Matt was economical with the truth.
Yes, he made the visit, as Russell says he left the table with him.
However I believe he went no further than the lounge, possible no further than the door way, where he listened for any noise, heard nothing, and left.
This is perfectly in accord with his earlier effort of checking.

Now this would have been perfectly OK if Madeleine had not disappeared, as no one would have been the wiser.
As Madeleine did disappear, he didn't want to admit he only listened at the patio doorway, so embellished things to make it sound better. He could claim he did a visual check of the twins because they hadn't disappeared but was understandably unwilling to say the same for Madeleine.

All my own opinion, a theory you might say.

[Eleanor]

OK, lets see how long you allow this to stand.

I consider Matt was economical with the truth.
Yes, he made the visit, as Russell says he left the table with him.
However I believe he went no further than the lounge, possible no further than the door way, where he listened for any noise, heard nothing, and left.
This is perfectly in accord with his earlier effort of checking.

Now this would have been perfectly OK if Madeleine had not disappeared, as no one would have been the wiser.
As Madeleine did disappear, he didn't want to admit he only listened at the patio doorway, so embellished things to make it sound better. He could claim he did a visual check of the twins because they hadn't disappeared but was understandably unwilling to say the same for Madeleine.

All my own opinion, a theory you might say.

I find absolutely nothing wrong with this comment.  Possibly my own thoughts to some extent.  And an example of what can be said, or not said.

I won't congratulate your ability as you might find it patronising.  But I am not your enemy.  Every one of you can do this if you so please.

[Robittybob1]

OK, lets see how long you allow this to stand.

I consider Matt was economical with the truth.
Yes, he made the visit, as Russell says he left the table with him.
However I believe he went no further than the lounge, possible no further than the door way, where he listened for any noise, heard nothing, and left.
This is perfectly in accord with his earlier effort of checking.

Now this would have been perfectly OK if Madeleine had not disappeared, as no one would have been the wiser.
As Madeleine did disappear, he didn't want to admit he only listened at the patio doorway, so embellished things to make it sound better. He could claim he did a visual check of the twins because they hadn't disappeared but was understandably unwilling to say the same for Madeleine.

All my own opinion, a theory you might say.

Well if I understood you correctly he has no way from that position in the lounge to assess whether the shutters are up or down.

[jassi]

Well if I understood you correctly he has no way from that position in the lounge to assess whether the shutters are up or down.

Quite, which could explain his uncertainty & unwillingness to actually commit himself one way or the other

[Alice Purjorick]

Quite, which could explain his uncertainty & unwillingness to actually commit himself one way or the other

It might also explain why he was given a hard time, allegedly, by way of questioning by the rozzers ?

[Robittybob1]

Quite, which could explain his uncertainty & unwillingness to actually commit himself one way or the other

To have an opinion whether uncertain or not, should not have been attempted, on matters he had not made an observation on.  I'm sure that would be part of his medical training.

[jassi]

All he needed to say was 'I did not notice' Clear and  unambiguous . No prevarication

[G-Unit]

To have an opinion whether uncertain or not, should not have been attempted, on matters he had not made an observation on.  I'm sure that would be part of his medical training.

He's very attached to certain words which make him sound unsure.

 it's all based around a T-junction essentially. So, erm, the apartment blocks, erm, runs along parallel to this bit and you go down the T-junction which goes down a hill about, oh, the distance now in memory must be, erm, sort of thirty yards, thirty or forty yards, and there's an entrance through a sort of a walled enclosure into the Tapas and sort of pool area and within that there's sort of like sun loungers,

[Robittybob1]

He's very attached to certain words which make him sound unsure.

 it's all based around a T-junction essentially. So, erm, the apartment blocks, erm, runs along parallel to this bit and you go down the T-junction which goes down a hill about, oh, the distance now in memory must be, erm, sort of thirty yards, thirty or forty yards, and there's an entrance through a sort of a walled enclosure into the Tapas and sort of pool area and within that there's sort of like sun loungers,

But the times he does he sort of gets the correct observation, well sort of anyway.

[jassi]

One can only hope that his speech is more coherent when he's doing the day job

[Robittybob1]

One can only hope that his speech is more coherent when he's doing the day job

My sentence wasn't that much better when I sort of tried to read it again.

[Robittybob1]

All he needed to say was 'I did not notice' Clear and  unambiguous . No prevarication

The case may by now be solved if he had been so precise.

[jassi]

I think the Rothley briefing precluded that.  Confusion is good