Questions arising.

[Wonderfulspam]

And why should I not be open to their evidence,...if you are not your mind is closed. I dont take anything at face value.

Do you beleive the Needhams families statements...they were once suspects too. we only have their word for it that Ben disappeared

Where can I find the Needham's statements?

I'd be interested to read them.

[G-Unit]

And why should I not be open to their evidence,...if you are not your mind is closed. I dont take anything at face value.

Do you beleive the Needhams families statements...they were once suspects too. we only have their word for it that Ben disappeared

As far as I can follow your thought processes you think you can rely on the parent's evidence being true because they're not suspects. So when they say a window and some shutters were opened by someone other than them you believe that is true. You then use it as evidence of stranger abduction.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3150.msg340871#msg340871

That sounds reasonable unless those who have decided they are not suspects are wrong.

[Venturi Swirl]

As far as I can follow your thought processes you think you can rely on the parent's evidence being true because they're not suspects. So when they say a window and some shutters were opened by someone other than them you believe that is true. You then use it as evidence of stranger abduction.
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=3150.msg340871#msg340871

That sounds reasonable unless those who have decided they are not suspects are wrong.

If you had been in charge of this investigation from Day One what course of enquiry would you have pursued and why? 

[G-Unit]

If you had been in charge of this investigation from Day One what course of enquiry would you have pursued and why?

To paraphrase Colin Sutton there's only one way to begin an investigation such as the disappearance of Madeleine McCann;

...a point worthy of reinforcing is that a proper, conclusive and reasoned elimination or implication of Kate and Gerry McCann would have been in everyone's interest, most of all theirs... To eliminate or implicate those closest to the child in this type of case is not only the documented best investigative practice but is common sense.
http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/2017/05/madeleine-mccann-and-operation-grange_9.html

[Venturi Swirl]

To paraphrase Colin Sutton there's only one way to begin an investigation such as the disappearance of Madeleine McCann;

...a point worthy of reinforcing is that a proper, conclusive and reasoned elimination or implication of Kate and Gerry McCann would have been in everyone's interest, most of all theirs... To eliminate or implicate those closest to the child in this type of case is not only the documented best investigative practice but is common sense.
http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/2017/05/madeleine-mccann-and-operation-grange_9.html

And do you think that was not done properly by the initial investigation?  Moreover, would you spend weeks, months or years investigating the parents to the exclusion of any other possibility? 

[Venturi Swirl]

If a child disappears from their home shouldn't the police investigate ALL possibilities rather than concentrating on one before moving onto the next?  It's called keeping an open mind and maximises the chances of recovering the child, because they could have been kidnapped by a stranger and be recoverable alive.  So - G-Unit, at what point would you have ruled out stranger abduction if you'd been in charge?

[Wonderfulspam]

Dear the police, government, whoever.

What is the cut off point in funding missing persons investigations?

Supposing half the people in this country disappeared.

Would the remaining population be expected to fork out 12 million per head of missing person with no result?

Would you be willing to snatch from 12 million children's money boxes just to pay for the search for Maddie?

That's pretty much what you're doing.

[jassi]

Grange  will  continue until someone in authority  decides to pull the plug.

As long as money is provided, then Dick will continue the investigation, irrespective of whether it leads anywhere.

IMO

[Wonderfulspam]

Grange  will  continue until someone in authority  decides to pull the plug.

As long as money is provided, then Dick will continue the investigation, irrespective of whether it leads anywhere.

IMO

There's been nothing but dicks investigating since Amaral got taken off the case.

[Venturi Swirl]

There's been nothing but dicks investigating since Amaral got taken off the case.

AS you obviously think so highly of Amaral perhaps you can volunteer a suggestion as to why he deliberately put out false information about Brueckner and his van last year.  Any ideas?

[Venturi Swirl]

Dear the police, government, whoever.

What is the cut off point in funding missing persons investigations?

Supposing half the people in this country disappeared.

Would the remaining population be expected to fork out 12 million per head of missing person with no result?

Would you be willing to snatch from 12 million children's money boxes just to pay for the search for Maddie?

That's pretty much what you're doing.

If 30 million people suddenly went missing from this country then there would certainly be very good grounds for mountain a full and comprehensive investigation which would probably lead to measures costing many billions.  How much has been spent to date protecting the NHS and the vulnerable in the last 18 months?  You haven't really thought this one through have you?

[Mr Gray]

To paraphrase Colin Sutton there's only one way to begin an investigation such as the disappearance of Madeleine McCann;

...a point worthy of reinforcing is that a proper, conclusive and reasoned elimination or implication of Kate and Gerry McCann would have been in everyone's interest, most of all theirs... To eliminate or implicate those closest to the child in this type of case is not only the documented best investigative practice but is common sense.
http://colinsutton.blogspot.com/2017/05/madeleine-mccann-and-operation-grange_9.html

Colin Sutton does not know if this has been done. My understanding is that Wolters evidence completelyrules out the parents

[Wonderfulspam]

If 30 million people suddenly went missing from this country then there would certainly be very good grounds for mountain a full and comprehensive investigation which would probably lead to measures costing many billions.  How much has been spent to date protecting the NHS and the vulnerable in the last 18 months?  You haven't really thought this one through have you?

Yes, you're right.

The government is also wasting an unacceptable amount on the NHS.

If we abolished the NHS, more people would die & then the burden on the taxpayer would be considerably reduced, along with the environmental damage to the planet that human existence causes.

[Venturi Swirl]

Yes, you're right.

The government is also wasting an unacceptable amount on the NHS.

If we abolished the NHS, more people would die & then the burden on the taxpayer would be considerably reduced, along with the environmental damage to the planet that human existence causes.

yadda yadda yadda, just more boring troll talk.

[Mr Gray]

yadda yadda yadda, just more boring troll talk.

The question is that if it results in the casebeing solved then is it money wrll spent. If CB is guilty then if the rape case had been solved by the portuguese then maddie would not have been abducted.