Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.

[Robittybob1]

I want a cite to support the claim... Which g has given... I don't think her cite stands up to scrutiny... She cannot show who said those words... I think it's most prob MS

It is a podcast and I really don't think the words in it have any real evidential value.  I trust G-unit that the transcription is correct. 

What I wanted someone to show me was where in the PJ file it says "Keela alerted to the key fob".

[Mr Gray]

It is a podcast and I really don't think the words in it have any real evidential value.  I trust G-unit that the transcription is correct. 

What I wanted someone to show me was where in the PJ file it says "Keela alerted to the key fob".

G is giving her opinion and IMO is 100% incorrect

[Robittybob1]

yes ...as VS said...who said that...where does MS stop his quote and continue with his own opinion...dna of cellular material does not confirm the alerts and i dont beleive Grime said ....you are quoting opinion as fact

You wanted the cite and you were given it.

G is giving her opinion and IMO is 100% incorrect

I'm about to listen to it for myself.

[Robittybob1]

I'd say MS stops quoting Martin Grime at Podcast "Goncalo Amaral" 12:14.

So it is Martin Grimes' opinion in question, or MS's understanding of Martin Grimes' words.

[Mr Gray]

You wanted the cite and you were given it.
I'm about to listen to it for myself.

I said I was given the cite.. What's wrong with you... And I responded that G is giving her opinion.. Not fact.. And I think she's 100% wrong

[G-Unit]

Do you know whereabouts this statement is covered in the file?  "Both dogs alerted to the cellular material found on the key fob which forensic tests identified as Gerry McCann's."

at 03h49 on 7 August 2007 by the dog Keela, that detects traces of human blood, it having
been verified the following result:
03h53 - the dog 'marked' an area of the lower right-hand side of the interior part of the baggage
compartment of the car;
04h11 - the dog 'marked' the 'tidy' compartment [map/glove pocket] on the side of the driver's door,
which was found to contain the car key, the plastic electronic card type, with a key-ring of the
Budget rental company.

In order to confirm that the dog had effectively 'marked' the car key, that was found in the
map/glove pocket on the side of the driver's door, at 04h13, that key was retrieved from the car
and concealed in a place far distant from the vehicle on parking level -3 of the underground car
park.
At 04h14, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
At 04h50, a new inspection was performed by Eddy on the parking level -4 where the above car
key was concealed in an area far distant from the vehicle.
At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

[Robittybob1]

Who said that?

Mark Saunokonoko is quoting his conversation with Martin Grime.  DNA was found but it was not possible to show who's DNA it was.

[Brietta]

Do you know whereabouts this statement is covered in the file?  "Both dogs alerted to the cellular material found on the key fob which forensic tests identified as Gerry McCann's."

Thus, the Renault Scenic vehicle was moved to parking level -3 and subjected to an expert examination by officers from the Police Science Laboratory and another canine inspection that began at 03h49 on 7 August 2007 by the dog Keela, that detects traces of human blood, it having been verified the following result:
03h53 - the dog 'marked' an area of the lower right-hand side of the interior part of the baggage
compartment of the car;
04h11 - the dog 'marked' the 'tidy' compartment [map/glove pocket] on the side of the driver's door, which was found to contain the car key, the plastic electronic card type, with a key-ring of the Budget rental company.
In order to confirm that the dog had effectively 'marked' the car key, that was found in the map/glove pocket on the side of the driver's door, at 04h13, that key was retrieved from the car and concealed in a place far distant from the vehicle on parking level -3 of the underground car park.
At 04h14, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
At 04h50, a new inspection was performed by Eddy on the parking level -4 where the above car key was concealed in an area far distant from the vehicle.
At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
... the present document has been duly signed:
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm


This is elementary Rob and has been referred to with cites given on the forum on very many occasions.  It is tiresome to be asked to provide cites when referring to established fact as you have done of me on quite a few occasions.
Sometimes cites are required and sometimes they are not; in my opinion on this occasion a cite was superfluous or I would have provided one.

[Mr Gray]

Mark Saunokonoko is quoting his conversation with Martin Grime.  DNA was found but it was not possible to show who's DNA it was.

You need to read gunits post... Grime dies not say keelas alerts are corroborated

[Robittybob1]

at 03h49 on 7 August 2007 by the dog Keela, that detects traces of human blood, it having
been verified the following result:
03h53 - the dog 'marked' an area of the lower right-hand side of the interior part of the baggage
compartment of the car;
04h11 - the dog 'marked' the 'tidy' compartment [map/glove pocket] on the side of the driver's door,
which was found to contain the car key, the plastic electronic card type, with a key-ring of the
Budget rental company.

In order to confirm that the dog had effectively 'marked' the car key, that was found in the
map/glove pocket on the side of the driver's door, at 04h13, that key was retrieved from the car
and concealed in a place far distant from the vehicle on parking level -3 of the underground car
park.
At 04h14, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
At 04h50, a new inspection was performed by Eddy on the parking level -4 where the above car
key was concealed in an area far distant from the vehicle.
At 04h51, it was verified that the dog 'marked' the area of a sandbox [bucket of sand] of the Fire
System where the car key had been concealed beneath the sand.
https://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/EDDIE-KEELA.htm

Thanks for that G-unit.  So am I reading that right that the plastic car key was twice buried under sand, and the cellular material was not rubbed off.
First test was by Keela and another second test by Eddie.

I thought they should have swabbed the card before burying it twice under sand.

[Robittybob1]

You need to read gunits post... Grime dies not say keela's alerts are corroborated

DNA was found at some sites.  I don't hear Grime talking at all.  All I hear is MS's interpretation of Martin Grimes' conversation.

[Brietta]

DNA was found at some sites.  I don't hear Grime talking at all.  All I hear is MS's interpretation of Martin Grimes' conversation.

Makes the podcasts all a bit pointless if that is the best he can come up with, don't you think?

[Robittybob1]

You need to read gunits post... Grime dies not say keelas alerts are corroborated

When would they be corroborated to you?  Keela alerts to the key fob buried under the sand.  DNA is recovered from the Key fob.  That seems to be enough for MG to say the alerts were corroborated in his opinion as reported through Mark Saunokonoko.

When would they be corroborated to you?  What did you want?

[Robittybob1]

Makes the podcasts all a bit pointless if that is the best he can come up with, don't you think?

He tried to make a difference - that bit about new DNA tests and analysis.  Not entirely pointless IMO.

[G-Unit]

I said I was given the cite.. What's wrong with you... And I responded that G is giving her opinion.. Not fact.. And I think she's 100% wrong

I'm not giving my opinion, I'm reporting what was said in the pdcast by Mark Saunokonoko reading from Grime's email. Whether you choose to believe him or call him a liar is nothing to do with me.