Podcasts by Mark Saunokonoko of 9News.

[faithlilly]

it seems we have torture apologists ..rapists apologists...im certainly no paedo apologist..prison may not always be the best option....i think its the only option for rapists

Nobody has said rapists shouldn’t be jailed...lock them up and throw away the key as far as I’m concerned . Individuals who view the abuse of children knowing the horrendous background surrounding those photographs should be punished to the greatest extent that the law will allow and those who think otherwise are simply facilitating further abuse.

[Mr Gray]

Nobody has said rapists shouldn’t be jailed...lock them up and throw away the key as far as I’m concerned . Individuals who view the abuse of children knowing the horrendous background surrounding those photographs should be punished to the greatest extent that the law will allow and those who think otherwise are simply facilitating further abuse.

I agree with all of that...all rapists should be jailed but im not sure if that applies to all who view child abuse

[The General]

Not only is he serious but his view is backed up by the judicial system in this country.  You may not like that fact but it is a fact that many  adults who are caught with child porn on their computers or phones do not do any time in prison..

Nah, it's a moot point. He's suggesting that it's 'complex', not because it's the vagaries of the judicial system that decides whether they actually do. It's not the logistics, it's his opinion.
See the post above.

[Mr Gray]

Nah, it's a moot point. He's suggesting that it's 'complex', not because it's the vagaries of the judicial system that decides whether they actually do. It's not the logistics, it's his opinion.
See the post above.

I'm suggesting it's complex because it is complex

[The General]

I'm suggesting it's complex because it is complex

You know what, I'm not going to debate it; I'm out on this one.

[Mr Gray]

You know what, I'm not going to debate it; I'm out on this one.

I think thats a good idea... It's a very emotive subject

[faithlilly]

I think thats a good idea... It's a very emotive subject

Well it certainly shows people in their true colours, that’s for sure.

[The General]

I think thats a good idea... It's a very emotive subject

Exactly. And very easy to be misconstrued.

[Venturi Swirl]

Well it certainly shows people in their true colours, that’s for sure.

What colour is that exactly?

[Venturi Swirl]

Worth a read for a less hysterical view of the situation.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/paedophiles-child-sex-images-download-prison-sentences-length-increase-solicitor-general-a8481276.html

[barrier]

Worth a read for a less hysterical view of the situation.


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/paedophiles-child-sex-images-download-prison-sentences-length-increase-solicitor-general-a8481276.html

,Every one who downloads the image should be treated as the rapist imo..
From the article
An NSPCC spokesperson said: “It’s worth remembering that at the centre of every child sexual abuse image is a boy or a girl who has been raped or assaulted in the most horrific manner.

“We need to be absolutely clear, children are abused to fuel this vile online market. They are then re-abused every time the image is downloaded.

[faithlilly]

,Every one who downloads the image should be treated as the rapist imo..
From the article
An NSPCC spokesperson said: “It’s worth remembering that at the centre of every child sexual abuse image is a boy or a girl who has been raped or assaulted in the most horrific manner.

“We need to be absolutely clear, children are abused to fuel this vile online market. They are then re-abused every time the image is downloaded.

And this

“Paedophiles who download indecent images of children could face longer prison sentences under plans backed by the Solicitor General.

Robert Buckland, a Conservative MP and former barrister, said downloading and sharing images of child abuse “is as insidious a crime as direct sexual assault”.

“It facilitates the commission of other offences, it can lead on to more horrendous crimes,” he told the Telegraph. “People are making money out of this, children are being abused.”

[Mr Gray]

And this

“Paedophiles who download indecent images of children could face longer prison sentences under plans backed by the Solicitor General.

Robert Buckland, a Conservative MP and former barrister, said downloading and sharing images of child abuse “is as insidious a crime as direct sexual assault”.

“It facilitates the commission of other offences, it can lead on to more horrendous crimes,” he told the Telegraph. “People are making money out of this, children are being abused.”

Do you think jailing those who view is going to do anything to stop this vile abuse.. Better to use the resources, to go after those committing the abuse

[G-Unit]

I am discussing the facts.  The fact is that there was clearly insufficient grounds to make DP an offical suspect in this case, a fact you do not wish to acknowledge for some reason.

A fact so obvious that I'm surprised you feel the need to point it out. To recap, the facts are;

Two separate witnesses reported being uneasy about DP. One of them was also unsure about the McCanns and the other one suggested Gerry might have been cmplicit.

Gerry McCann made a couple of comments about DP in his 10th May statement. He suggested that DP checked the McCann children on the evening of the 2nd May and that he left the tennis courts at 6:30 on 3rd to visit Kate, returning at 7 pm.

No-one else thought that DP checked the McCann children, I wonder why Gerry thought he might have?  As far as the half hour visit by DP to 5A on 3rd, Gerry changes that in his arguido statement. He now says DP returned a few minutes after leaving, then went off again until 7 pm. That isn't confirmed by DP or anyone else either. With friends like Gerry you don't need enemies imo.

[Venturi Swirl]

A fact so obvious that I'm surprised you feel the need to point it out. To recap, the facts are;

Two separate witnesses reported being uneasy about DP. One of them was also unsure about the McCanns and the other one suggested Gerry might have been cmplicit.

Gerry McCann made a couple of comments about DP in his 10th May statement. He suggested that DP checked the McCann children on the evening of the 2nd May and that he left the tennis courts at 6:30 on 3rd to visit Kate, returning at 7 pm.

No-one else thought that DP checked the McCann children, I wonder why Gerry thought he might have?  As far as the half hour visit by DP to 5A on 3rd, Gerry changes that in his arguido statement. He now says DP returned a few minutes after leaving, then went off again until 7 pm. That isn't confirmed by DP or anyone else either. With friends like Gerry you don't need enemies imo.

And yet despite all this the police did not feel, nor have they ever felt, it necessary to make DP an official suspect, something which you are unable or unwilling to explain.