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Offline nina

Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #45 on: July 11, 2017, 11:14:02 AM »
(5): Forensics Officer  Martin Faithfull.


Now I've learnt something new... But it makes sense... Because I believe That Officer Martin Faithful was always a beat Cop....

He was shown the body by "The Birches ..

So... why would he need to stop a body from Snowing if it was covered in snow????

http://live-news.sky.com/Event/Live_Updates_Vincent_Tabak_Trial2

I'm obviously missing something, but as the link doesn't work, can you tell me what you mean in your last sentence? "Why would he need to stop a body from Snowing .......

Offline nina

Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #46 on: July 11, 2017, 11:19:53 AM »

I think she works inside Avon and Somerset Police...

Not being rude but so do the cleaners!

It would be good to know if she was a professional just brought in for the Joanna Yeates case or if she is actually in the force.

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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #47 on: July 11, 2017, 11:38:42 AM »
I'm obviously missing something, but as the link doesn't work, can you tell me what you mean in your last sentence? "Why would he need to stop a body from Snowing .......


The link does work.... It just takes an age to load......


From the link:..

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Twitter
juliareidsky
@juliareidsky
Officer Martin Faithfull statement. He was shown the body and caught a glimpse of denim. He closed the road.

Question.... who showed PC Martin Faithful Joanna Yeates body????? And would a PC be in charge of such a serious operation ???? As to close the road???  He may direct traffic elsewhere... But "CLOSE" The Road ?????

Other tweets describe Martin Faithful as a Forensics officer... i thought thats what I had linked it too... anyway... With that tweet all that is revealed is a "GLIMPSE OF DENIM"... and not the description that "The Birches Give in a written statement in court...

The Birches saying:....

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Yeates was lying with her knees pointing towards a quarry wall. Birch remembered the top of her white knickers and part of her bare back being exposed through the snow.

Giving far more detail than apparently... Forensic Officer martin faithful did on seeing Joanna Yeates in the snow.... So how did the "BIRCHES" apparently see more than a POLICE OFFICER"?????

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The jury was shown images of the snow-covered body as forensic officer, Martin Faithfull, described the operation to retrieve her body.

As far as I am aware... Martin Faithful is just a PC.. A beat cop.. and NOT A Forensics Officer....

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Mr Faithfull told the court how the forensic team had made efforts to prevent Miss Yeates frozen body from thawing out, in order to avoid losing any potentially significant evidence.


If Joanna Yeates was as frozen as they claimed she was being outside apparentley on Longwood Lane for 8 days... she shouldn't be thawing at all.... (IMO)... never mind Two independent Police Officers saying they tried to stop her from THAWING!!! Bring the only conclusion... that Joanna Yeates had NOT BEEN ON LONGWOOD LANE FOR 8 DAYS!!!! (IMO)...

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2011/oct/14/joanna-yeates-body-dog-walker

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/crime/8826662/Joanna-Yeates-trial-snow-covered-body-found-by-dog-walker.html


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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #48 on: July 11, 2017, 11:44:12 AM »
Not being rude but so do the cleaners!

It would be good to know if she was a professional just brought in for the Joanna Yeates case or if she is actually in the force.

The slide show which is for "Operation  Jupiter" which was 2006 I believe ... Lists Lyndsey Farmery... As A " Criminal Intelligence Analyst"...

 When she leaves Bristol Crown Court after giving her evidence for The Joanna Yeates Case ... she wears a Lanyard.. saying... "Avon and Somerset Police.... These are the two things that make me believe that she works for 'Avon and Somerset Police....

http://slidegur.com/doc/5830427/presentation


Link to pdf about "Operation Jupiter 2006

http://www.popcenter.org/library/awards/tilley/2006/06-20(R).pdf

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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #49 on: July 12, 2017, 09:36:59 AM »
When looking for Lyndsey Farmery yesterday I can across this image of her ... She and a friend are doing a half marathon... 6th September 2009

Can't find where she finished ??

Got me thinking about those Doctored Pictures of Dr Vincent Tabak apparently in various Marathons...


https://www.justgiving.com/fundraising/lyndseyandannarun

http://www.westmidlandsrunningscene.co.uk/webpagesforWMRS/2009raceresultspage/Bristol_Half_2009.htm

http://www.runbritainrankings.com/results/results.aspx?meetingid=25208

Offline Leonora

Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #50 on: July 12, 2017, 03:26:59 PM »
The drawing showing Vincent Tabak with an interpreter beside him was published in an account of his first court appearance, namely, at Bristol Magistrates Court. She does indeed look strikingly like Lyndsey Farmery, apart from the latter parting her hair left of centre. How amazing! Avon & Somerset Constabulary paid out £3468 in interpreter fees and expenses during the course of "Operation Braid". This hints that Detective Constable Karen Thomas took her own interpreter with her when she travelled to Schiphol on 31st December 2010 to interview Vincent Tabak and Tanja Morson, possibily as suspects. The supposition that Lyndsey Farmery was the colleague who accompanied DC Thomas is intriguing. Was Vincent Tabak questioned in Dutch, to ensure that his human rights were not compromised? If he were, the jury was certainly not told. Nor did judge Field ask the witness if this were so.

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« Reply #51 on: July 12, 2017, 04:10:18 PM »
The drawing showing Vincent Tabak with an interpreter beside him was published in an account of his first court appearance, namely, at Bristol Magistrates Court. She does indeed look strikingly like Lyndsey Farmery, apart from the latter parting her hair left of centre. How amazing! Avon & Somerset Constabulary paid out £3468 in interpreter fees and expenses during the course of "Operation Braid". This hints that Detective Constable Karen Thomas took her own interpreter with her when she travelled to Schiphol on 31st December 2010 to interview Vincent Tabak and Tanja Morson, possibily as suspects. The supposition that Lyndsey Farmery was the colleague who accompanied DC Thomas is intriguing. Was Vincent Tabak questioned in Dutch, to ensure that his human rights were not compromised? If he were, the jury was certainly not told. Nor did judge Field ask the witness if this were so.


leonora.... you're a clever one... that had completeley passed me by.....

Such great store is set by the fact that Dr Vincent Tabak has an Interpreter at his first court appearance that I had not even considered the "Illegal Holland Interview" (IMO)...

Is this the reason the 'Colleague who goes with DC Karen Thomas name is never mentioned ....

This is "Eureka".. stuff leonora.... Who did accompany DC Karen Thomas ????

Was it indeed Lyndsey Farmery??....... Lyndsey Love was it you???

Why wasn't the searches ever questioned as not being translated ???

Surely DC Karen Thomas would have needed a translator... she couldn't assume that Dr Vincent Tabak would understand english and legal terms.. at this point they had NO understanding of Dr Vincent Tabak's command of the English Language...

And I believe that DC Karen Thomas would not have wanted Dr Vincent tabak conversing with his sister in Dutch...

There's a question... Cora to protect her brother would have spoken to him in Dutch I presume.. How would DC Karen Thomas "KNOW" or understand whether or not she was fussing over him... and not just telling him off!!

So you are right leonora I believe... DC Karen Thomas had to have an Interpreter with her when she went to Holland to Interview Dr Vincent Tabak... The question is WHO???



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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #52 on: July 12, 2017, 04:15:38 PM »
Leonora... wouldn't the Police normally have a cohoberating officers statement as to what was said at this "Holland" Interview??

Or shouldn't there be another Officers "NOTES" as to what Dr Vincent Tabak said in Holland...

Because DC Karen Thomas's version of EVENTS... Doesn't add up....(IMO)!!!

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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #53 on: September 14, 2017, 04:23:23 PM »
(41): Martin Dunscombe... Corporate Communications Officer


By PADRAIC FLANAGAN
PUBLISHED: 00:00, Wed, Jan 12, 2011

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Police spokesman Martin Dunscombe said: “We take every piece of information we receive from the public seriously. This is one of many lines of inquiry we’ve pursued.’’

Why did this guy suddenly become the spokesperson for this Inquiry???

You would have thought a more Senior Police Officer would be making comments ....

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Corporate Communications Officer
Company NameAvon and Somerset Constabulary
Dates EmployedNov 2008 – Sep 2014  Employment Duration5 yrs 11 mos
LocationPortishead


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Head of Communications
Company NameAvon & Somerset Police and Crime Commissioner
Dates EmployedSep 2014 – Jul 2015  Employment Duration11 mos
LocationPortishead

I know he says he's working for Avon and Somerset Police.. But I wondered if he was originally employed as part of the  "South West One"...

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Big enough to contribute, small enough to care
The Southwest One partnership started in December 2007. It was a unique and collaborative Joint Venture Company, the first of its kind including 4 partners – a county council, a district council a police force and a private sector partner (IBM). Over the 9 years things since Southwest One started the world has changed significantly – economy, politics and funding. In December 2016 Southwest One became a smaller leaner organisation which will continued to deliver services to Avon and Somerset Constabulary and internal services to colleagues in Southwest One itself. In July 2017, Southwest One services will purely focus on Technology Services to Avon and Somerset Constabulary.
 

I'm sure Southwest One are based at Portishead...


http://www.express.co.uk/news/uk/222649/Joanna-Yeates-boyfriend-s-torment-over-visit-to-newborn-nieces

https://www.linkedin.com/in/martin-dunscombe-bb4293b2/

http://www.southwestone.co.uk/index.html

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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #54 on: September 14, 2017, 05:44:33 PM »
(42): South West One...  IBM Company/ Contract with Avon and Somerset Police..



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A 10-year-long deal is due to end in June 2018, and chief constable Andy Marsh confirmed he had "given notice" that the contract will not be renewed.

Instead he said he wants to work with neighbouring police and fire services.
Southwest One, which is 75% owned by IBM, carries out administrative, IT and human resources tasks for the force.

What exactly did Southwest One do in The Joanna Yeates Case ???

Some of The Benefits for SouthWest One Employees...

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Rewards and benefits

Wellbeing - Southwest One is committed to maintaining the work-life balance of its employees. Flexibility in working arrangements is an important tool in enabling employees to maintain or improve their balance between home and work.

Southwest One Group Stakeholder Pension Plan - Southwest One offers you membership of a group stakeholder pension plan with Scottish Life to help you save for your future. The plan will belong to you and when you save into it so will Southwest One and the taxman (unless you choose to opt out). This will boost your savings and help you to reach your retirement goals.

Life Assurance Scheme - Subject to eligibility, employees have the opportunity to join the Southwest One Group Life Assurance Plan. The benefit provided by the scheme is a lump sum benefit of four times your basic salary upon your death whilst in service.

Income Protection Plan - Subject to eligibility, employees have the opportunity to join the Income Protection Plan. This is an insured ill-health benefit, which becomes available after 5 ½ years’ continuous service.

Eye Vouchers - Southwest One will pay eyesight tests for employees who are regular computer users.

Employee Support Groups - Employees in Southwest One can now access Employee Support Groups available from Avon and Somerset Constabulary and include:-

Ability - Disability Support Group
Women’s Network Group
BPA - Black Police Association
GPA - Gay Police Association
CPA - Christian Police Association
Employee Support - professional counselling; information and advice, and can help with a range of problems from practical everyday matters to sensitive, traumatic or emotional issues. Leave - annual leave entitlement is determined by length of continuous service, grade and on a pro-rata basis for employees working part-time. In addition to the normal 8 public holidays annual leave starts at 22 days per year. Company Sick Pay - Entitlement to paid sick leave is related to length of service.

Cycle Saver Scheme - The Cycle to Work scheme is a government initiative that allows you to get a brand new bike and safety equipment for your commute to work as a salary sacrifice – with tax benefits!

Childcare Voucher Scheme - The childcare voucher scheme operates on the basis of salary sacrifice whereby employees with child caring responsibilities can choose to receive part of their salary in vouchers. The vouchers are exempt from National Insurance and tax deductions, enabling savings to be made in respect of childcare costs.



Companies House Has a wealth of information... Listed as one of The Officers/Directors Of SouthWest One  is Colin Port

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PORT, Colin (DIRECTOR) 

Correspondence address
P O Box 37, Portishead, Somerset, BS20 8QJ
Role RESIGNED
Director
Date of birth
June 1954
Appointed on
20 March 2008
Resigned on
30 August 2011
Nationality
British
Country of residence
United Kingdom
Occupation
Police Officer


SouthWest One Owed IBM Money... See attached images ...

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06373780/charges/vpE3Hqxn9x99luponvF_IFFns1M

SouthWest One was originally called HOLDTILE LIMITED (See Image )

Another Director of SouthWest One is a company called SWIFT INCORPORATIONS LIMITED

I've come across this company before.. I find it odd that it just sets up companies...  Don't know if it's irregular... It's Total number of appointments 107069

This Company also set up "Bob The Builder" AKA....  D.R.A Maintainance 


https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/03467566/officers

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/officers/8d_bnTiwfxh8JIr3YfuwkmkWkCg/appointments

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/06373780/officers

http://www.southwestone.co.uk/index.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-36551213


FOI:  Asking about Colin Port's involvement as Director of SouthWest One 

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/repeat_for_record_will_the_depar

Offline Leonora

Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #55 on: September 15, 2017, 04:18:56 PM »
Leonora... wouldn't the Police normally have a cohoberating officers statement as to what was said at this "Holland" Interview??

Or shouldn't there be another Officers "NOTES" as to what Dr Vincent Tabak said in Holland...

Because DC Karen Thomas's version of EVENTS... Doesn't add up....(IMO)!!!
DC Karen Thomas testified that she was accompanied by a "colleague" at Schiphol. However, the 6 hour duration of the interview, and the 40 pages of notes that were taken during it, seems to have been fed to the press separately from her testimony itself. That in itself is suspicious. I really don't know what the police would "normally" do - but I am sure a "normal" judge would "normally" have asked this witness some very penetrating questions, since Counsel for the Defence failed to cross-examine her at all.

It certainly doesn't add up.

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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #56 on: September 17, 2017, 09:24:11 AM »
(21): Tarique Ghaffur, a former head of Scotland Yard's homicide command


Vikram Dodd, crime correspondent
Tuesday 28 December 2010 21.27 GMT


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The aim was not just to update the public on the murder of Joanna Yeates but also to help the investigation gain new evidence and develop lines of inquiry.

Police have become adept at using the media in high-profile cases, says Tarique Ghaffur, a former head of Scotland Yard's homicide command who went on to establish the specialist crime directorate.

He is commending Avon and Somerset Police on walking the public through "Police Procedures" and he establish the specialist crime directorate.

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Past cases have shown that there are three key ways by which media appeals help the police.

The first is a straightforward appeal for witnesses. The second is when police want to rule in, or out, of their investigation someone close to the victim.

"If you have a suspect, you can put them before the media and put the person on public view to see if their behaviour seems normal," Ghaffur says. "A psychologist can help you do this. Behavioural science is becoming quite important."

The third way media appeals help is by monitoring the reaction of a suspect to the release of information by police. Does their reaction seem normal, do they even start to make admissions?

Ghaffur says: "Giving lots of detail adds pressure on a suspect. Avon and Somerset [police] … have introduced the senior investigating officer, giving more facts about the supermarket receipts and other details. It helps close the net."

I found it curious that Tarique Ghaffur, would find himself on the pages of the media in relation to The Joanna Yeates case ... He too knows that there was more than "One Receipt" that was never produced at trial... we only here about The Tesco's receipt....

So what was "The other receipt from???"  because if it was Bargain Booze or Waitrose, why didn't they produce it??

I'm unsure as to whether or not that it was a bit of self promoting or his vast experience was called upon in this case...

There has been untold amounts of high profile Investigators attached to This Case,.. which considering that it was a "Simple Murder Case" has one wondering why??

The "Specialist Crime Directorate ....

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The Specialist Crime Directorate (SCD) was one of the main branches of the London Metropolitan Police Service. It dealt with highly visible specialist policing services across the whole of London and provided highly visible specialist policing services across the whole of London. Assistant Commissioner Mark Rowley previously led the directorate but it's now led by Assistant Commissioner Cressida Dick. The Directorate led national police agency with regard to specialist crime investigations such as e-crime, sex crimes (paedophile unit) or kidnappings, hostage taking and contract killings.

This made me wonder whether or not Tarique Ghaffur had any input into The Joanna Yeates Case... The amount of "Visible" Police Officers around at that time was immense. Again we can see it covers "Complex Crimes "...


Tarique Ghaffur is The Founder of:

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Founder & Chairman
Company NameCommunity Safety Development UK Limited
Dates EmployedApr 2009 – Present  Employment Duration8 yrs 6 mos
LocationCentral London
We provide innovative security solutions globally. Our main office is in London

Although it doesn't appear in Companies House until March 2011 and has it "Final Gazette" Sept 2017 The company was also registered as "CSD GLOBAL LIMITED" in 2009 at Companies house and is a lead in " Complex Police Investigations..

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The Investigations team at CSD Global has extensive experience in all areas of corporate investigations. We have been instrumental in detecting, investigating and preventing major corporate crime and the recovery of multi - million pound losses.
We provide lawyers, and accountants, with support strategies and action plans to ensure our clients have a fair chance of obtaining justice.
Another part of our investigation service is providing help to UK law enforcement agencies, which are increasingly under threat from issue of trust and confidence, leading to failures in delivery standards; we have access to a vast pool of expert ex-law enforcement professionals that can provide support to agency investigations over a broad spectrum of disciplines.

That make me think of Ann Reddrop...  and her 21 criteria!!


Did Avon and Somerset Police use the services of "CSD GLOBAL LIMITED" ?? Because I really do not understand why Tarique Ghaffur, felt the need to have his face emblazened across The Guardian Newspaper on the 28th December 2010, The day after DCI Phil Jones was put in charge of 'The Joanna Yeates Murder Investigation"....

It's possible... As me and mrswah would agree... Anything is possible in this case...




http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/QB/2016/643.html (This is an interesting read)

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07548261/officers

https://www.linkedin.com/in/tarique-ghaffur-cbe-qpm-4ab705b/

https://www.theguardian.com/uk/2010/dec/28/joanna-yeates-murder-media-appeals

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tarique_Ghaffur

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Specialist_Crime_Directorate_(Metropolitan_Police)

http://csdglobalgroup.co.uk/Investigation/investigation.html

https://beta.companieshouse.gov.uk/company/07029796/officers

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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #57 on: September 21, 2017, 09:29:07 AM »
(3): Andrew Mott


What is Andrew Mott.... I've struggled to find anything about him really, but now I think I have done it....

We know him from the Crime Watch Program... And he is "Apparently" "A Forensics" Officer"...  But I don't even think he's a "Policeman"...!!!!

I was trying to identify him from this award ceremony and I couldn't see him...



He's not there.... But That made the search for him even more of a challenge....


I found an image of him leaving "Bristol Crown Court"....



So who is Andrew Mott!!!!

I have been over the sky tweets before.....

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10:42 AM - 14 Oct 2011Twitter
juliareidsky
@juliareidsky
Mott says the body and ground were frozen. Defence asks about a broom handle used to help feed straps under the body.
ReplyRetweetFavorite 

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10:49 AM - 14 Oct 2011Twitter
juliareidsky
@juliareidsky
Mr Mott says contamination of the frozen body with the broom handle was minimised. #Vincenttabak #Joannayeates


So this made me believe he was a "POLICEMAN".... But It was from the article that the first image comes from the the Information about him is made clear....

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The team included Detective Chief Inspector Julie Mackay, Case Review Criminal Investigation Officer Gary Mason and civilian Senior Investigating Officer Andrew Mott.

He's a Civilian who works with the Police.....  That is why I have never been able to find him... I have read that article before and of course I have skimmed!!!

Here's what the role of a Civilian Investigating Officer is:

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Civilian Investigation Officers (CIOs)
CIOs are trained in the techniques of criminal prosecutions, in particular PACE and PEACE, and a range of investigation techniques. They work alongside detectives gathering evidence and taking statements. This frees up sworn officers and plain clothes detectives to focus on front-line or other investigative priorities. CIOs primarily conduct initial investigations of low level cases, which can be either over the telephone or house-to-house. CIOs can also be responsible for recovering and documenting exhibits and obtaining statements. While these powers are still not full police powers, they do cover most of the territory required to investigate crimes, including powers of seizure and search.

So this Civilian went to court saying that he was a "Forensic Officer"... when in fact he can't have been.... (IMO)

This means that the two so called "Forensic Officers" who gave sworn statements to the court are a Civilian and a PC Plod

Andrew Mott and Martin Faithful.!!!! 


I now know what Andrew Mott did on Longwood lane... I'll post it in "Forensics" so this post isn't too long!!





https://www.bluelinejobs.co.uk/roles/police#cios
http://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/killers-caught-gangs-brought-down-4053
http://live-news.sky.com/Event/Live_Updates_Vincent_Tabak_Trial2

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Re: Establishing Their Roles.....
« Reply #58 on: September 21, 2017, 02:33:06 PM »
(6):  Chief Superintendent Jon Stratford

Looking at :

SCRUTINY ANNUAL REPORT
 (Finance and Performance, Community Services and Environmental Services Policy and Scrutiny Panels)
 2010 / 2011



I was surprised to find out that Operation Braid is not mentioned Though Operation Jupiter is ....

But that Jon Stratford is "Head of Criminal Justice".... Does anyone know what that title means????

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The Panel met on 7 July 2010 to review the likely impact on North Somerset of the Avon and Somerset Constabulary Accommodation Strategy: the future of custody arrangements.  This was attended by the District Commander, Chief Superintendent Kay Wozniak, and Avon and Somerset Constabulary’s Head of Criminal Justice, Chief Superintendent Jon Stratford.
 


http://apps.n-somerset.gov.uk/cairo/docs/doc22358.htm

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« Reply #59 on: November 20, 2017, 09:16:40 PM »
(31); AMANDA HIRST, Head of Corporate Communications at Avon and Somerset

I came across an interesting article... And wondered what Exhibit 2 was referring too??

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Exhibit 2 to W/S of Amanda Hirst, Head of Corporate Communications, Avon and Somerset...
This record is closed

Opening date: 02 November 2097

Submit FOI request

More information about the Freedom of Information review process
Reference:   LEV 2/VN3/Z
Description:   Exhibit 2 to W/S of Amanda Hirst, Head of Corporate Communications, Avon and Somerset Constabulary: Operation Braid - Presentation to the Association of Police Communicators
Held by:   The National Archives
Legal status:   Public Record
Closure status:   Closed Or Retained Document, Open Description
Access conditions:   Closed For 84 years
Record opening date:   02 November 2097

And... Exhibit 3
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Exhibit 3 to W/S of Amanda Hirst, Head of Corporate Communications, Avon and Somerset...
This record is closed

Opening date: 02 November 2097

Submit FOI request

More information about the Freedom of Information review process
Reference:   LEV 2/4DM/Z
Description:   Exhibit 3 to W/S of Amanda Hirst, Head of Corporate Communications, Avon and Somerset Constabulary: Operation Braid - Website and Social Media Summary
Held by:   The National Archives
Legal status:   Public Record
Closure status:   Closed Or Retained Document, Open Description
Access conditions:   Closed For 84 years
Record opening date:   02 November 2097

What and why have they closed anything to do with "Operation Braid" for 84 years ????  Now that is bonkers... Anyone care to explain ????


If it was a "Placid Dutchman" whom apparently killed Joanna Yeates.... Then why have we got records sealed for 84 years???? Any ideas ???

Does this not make anyone who believes that Dr Vincent Tabak is guilty.... NOW question that very idea????

Why on earth would you need to seal records for a simple murder case???

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/1884d4152b70498b88d862f19aad10c8

http://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/88b19b139c56434a861cca48101f7073


Edit..... If important documents are sealed for 84 years how would you ever have an Inquiry???

Why are so many documents from The Leveson Inquiry sealed????