General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[Mr Gray]

Are, the Portuguese public angry at the amount of money the PJ are, spending on the case..... Prob not as, they are doing nothing... Just paying lip service imo

[barrier]

Are, the Portuguese public angry at the amount of money the PJ are, spending on the case..... Prob not as, they are doing nothing... Just paying lip service imo

In the meantime OG are going no where fast.

[barrier]

It's looking like Lip Service to me.  Operation Grange do the work, because they are better at it, and Portugal says, "Thanks very much."

In the end it all depends on who was responsible for the abduction of Madeleine McCann, and of what Nationality.  Quite possibly not even Portuguese.

Better at what work,which case like this one have they been involved in?

[barrier]

From the sun article posted by Jassi.

quote "there has been no significant clues as to what could have happened" end quote


This is what the expertise of Scotland yard bring?

[jassi]

From the sun article posted by Jassi.


This is what the expertise of Scotland yard bring?

Have they done anything other than confirm what the Portuguese had already determined ?

[barrier]

Have they done anything other than confirm what the Portuguese had already determined ?

Hard to argue they have.

[Sunny]

Hard to argue they have.

It doesn't appear that Operation Grange have actually achieved anything of value as yet.   However I still believe that their gravy train will continue.

If the Portuguese are doing nothing as some posters say then I don't blame them as Scotland Yard don't seem to be getting very far IMO.

Surely if Operation Grange have not interviewed the McCanns or the tapas friends this should be done quickly as they may hold a vital clue to Madeleine's disappearance possibly without knowing it.

[jassi]

It doesn't appear that Operation Grange have actually achieved anything of value as yet.   However I still believe that their gravy train will continue.

If the Portuguese are doing nothing as some posters say then I don't blame them as Scotland Yard don't seem to be getting very far IMO.

Surely if Operation Grange have not interviewed the McCanns or the tapas friends this should be done quickly as they may hold a vital clue to Madeleine's disappearance possibly without knowing it.

I find it amazing that they haven't done so as all the Tapas group interviews in Portugal were recorded in Portuguese.

Maybe these translations are no where near as unreliable as some like to claim 

[barrier]

It doesn't appear that Operation Grange have actually achieved anything of value as yet.   However I still believe that their gravy train will continue.

If the Portuguese are doing nothing as some posters say then I don't blame them as Scotland Yard don't seem to be getting very far IMO.

Surely if Operation Grange have not interviewed the McCanns or the tapas friends this should be done quickly as they may hold a vital clue to Madeleine's disappearance possibly without knowing it.

They have no need to interview them,Rowley was happy with what happened in the first investigation, remembering what the SC court had to say.

[Sunny]

They have no need to interview them,Rowley was happy with what happened in the first investigation, remembering what the SC court had to say.

Sorry Barrier, I wasn't meaning as suspects just that there may be something in their memories that they don't even know is evidence.

I wonder what translations Scotland Yard are using. The ones online, the ones the McCanns paid for or their own translations.

Surely Scotland Yard aren't being very professional if they aren't interviewing the main witnesses in the case.

[barrier]

I wasn't meaning as suspects just that there may be something in their memories that they don't even know is evidence.

I wonder what translations Scotland Yard are using. The ones online, the ones the McCanns paid for or their own translations.

Their own,in reply to a question on a radio programme which was what do 30 officers do all day,Hogan Howe replied that you had to remember that all the thousands of pages had to be translated.

https://youtu.be/n9vJm03dlI8

[Mr Gray]

Their own,in reply to a question on a radio programme which was what do 30 officers do all day,Hogan Howe replied that you had to remember that all the thousands of pages had to be translated.

https://youtu.be/n9vJm03dlI8

Not just translated... But assessed and if necessary followed up.  There  was a colossal amount of information and this us why it has cost 11 million

[Brietta]

Sunny said in response to the news that the police have submitted a request to the Home Office for further support in their joint operation with the Portuguese police https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-request-another-six-months-funding-investigate-disappearance-madeleine-mccann-114513101.html

Snip
It is looking like groundhog day to me. In 2 - 3 weeks we will get the approval of funding for Operation Grange. I haven't had an interest in this case for all that long but even I see a pattern with the media stories.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2784.msg487799#msg487799


I think it is groundhog day in more than one way.
The general focus appears to be not on the police asking for money to continue what logically must therefore be an active investigation with more work still to be done but on the money which has been spent in allowing them to get to that stage.

I believe the small but vociferous force which purports to be all for Madeleine have had that small amount of success causing the gripe of cost for justice to be in the forefront.  In my opinion ignoring the fact that the police are tasked with following evidence until there is none to follow.

One FOI request on top of another has pursued the investigation into this missing child right from inception in what I consider could be classed as an abuse of the system. As for example ... not so much on money in this one ... more in my opinion a transparent longing for the closure of Madeleine's case long before it is due ...

Question
3. Who will make the final decision as to whether or not to close or 'shelve' the active investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The MPS response to Q3:
As in all major enquiries the decision to close the active phase of an investigation is taken by a senior officer in consultation with the relevant partners and stakeholders.  It is then kept under review for new opportunities.

https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/disclosure_2016/february_2016/information-rights-unit---information-on-operation-grange---madeleine-mccann

What sort of individuals are these who in my opinion are willing to actively leave no stone unturned in their desire to sacrifice the police investigation into the disappearance of a missing child on their own altar of hatred.

Groundhog day indeed.

[Venturi Swirl]

It doesn't appear that Operation Grange have actually achieved anything of value as yet.   However I still believe that their gravy train will continue.

If the Portuguese are doing nothing as some posters say then I don't blame them as Scotland Yard don't seem to be getting very far IMO.

Surely if Operation Grange have not interviewed the McCanns or the tapas friends this should be done quickly as they may hold a vital clue to Madeleine's disappearance possibly without knowing it.

Sorry, I don’t follow your logic there.  Surely the PJ should be putting in more work if Operation Grange are so inept, not resting on their backsides doing nothing simply because in your estimation SY haven’t got very far?

[jassi]

Sunny said in response to the news that the police have submitted a request to the Home Office for further support in their joint operation with the Portuguese police https://uk.news.yahoo.com/police-request-another-six-months-funding-investigate-disappearance-madeleine-mccann-114513101.html

Snip
It is looking like groundhog day to me. In 2 - 3 weeks we will get the approval of funding for Operation Grange. I haven't had an interest in this case for all that long but even I see a pattern with the media stories.

http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=2784.msg487799#msg487799


I think it is groundhog day in more than one way.
The general focus appears to be not on the police asking for money to continue what logically must therefore be an active investigation with more work still to be done but on the money which has been spent in allowing them to get to that stage.

I believe the small but vociferous force which purports to be all for Madeleine have had that small amount of success causing the gripe of cost for justice to be in the forefront.  In my opinion ignoring the fact that the police are tasked with following evidence until there is none to follow.

One FOI request on top of another has pursued the investigation into this missing child right from inception in what I consider could be classed as an abuse of the system. As for example ... not so much on money in this one ... more in my opinion a transparent longing for the closure of Madeleine's case long before it is due ...

Question
3. Who will make the final decision as to whether or not to close or 'shelve' the active investigation into the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The MPS response to Q3:
As in all major enquiries the decision to close the active phase of an investigation is taken by a senior officer in consultation with the relevant partners and stakeholders.  It is then kept under review for new opportunities.

https://www.met.police.uk/SysSiteAssets/foi-media/metropolitan-police/disclosure_2016/february_2016/information-rights-unit---information-on-operation-grange---madeleine-mccann

What sort of individuals are these who in my opinion are willing to actively leave no stone unturned in their desire to sacrifice the police investigation into the disappearance of a missing child on their own altar of hatred.

Groundhog day indeed.

I suppose in this case the stakeholders are the CPS and the Home Office, both of whom will be used to making pragmatic decisions based on reality  rather than emotion.