General discussion about the latest news (not search related)

[kmc]

I have already seen his Wiki entry and saw no mention of that.
Please give a cite for what you claim, as required by the rules of this forum.

Sure.  Check out "Martin Ney and Evangelical" on Google.   You will find articles in the Sun, Mirror, Metro and Birmingham post....posted today.  I assume this to be correct if Amaral claims the PJ interviewed him at the time - the 2011 piece seems too far gone for PJ to have been involved in interviewing him.

[faithlilly]

Google the guy.  You may have no voice to ask questions - but I assume you have fingers?????

The papers you quote say Portugal. They do not say near PDL.

Why are you trying to spread misinformation?

[barrier]

The papers you quote say Portugal. They do not say near PDL.

Why are you trying to spread misinformation?

The express piece makes no mention of luz,the german piece I linked to says Hamburg.

https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id369.htm

It is believed that between 2000 and 2008 he worked for an evangelical church on a project for the homeless.

https://www.weser-kurier.de/bremen/bremen-stadt_artikel,-Martin-N-Toetungsfantasien-schon-als-Jugendlicher-_arid,230463.html

Im Jahre 1998 wohnte Martin N. noch in Bremen, 2004 bereits in Hamburg. Von 2000 bis 2008 war er Mitarbeiter in einer Jugend-Wohngruppe der Evangelischen Jugendhilfe Friedenshort GmbH im Hamburger Stadtteil Harburg. Die Mitarbeiter verweisen am Telefon auf eine Pressemitteilung des Trägervereins im nordrhein-westfälischen Freudenberg. In einer Stellungnahme schreibt Sprecher Henning Siebel über Martin N.: "Während seiner gesamten Beschäftigungszeit trat er als ein freundlicher, engagierter und kompetenter Mitarbeiter in Erscheinung. Zu keinem Zeitpunkt gab es für uns Anhaltspunkte oder Hinweise auf Fehlverhalten oder Auffälligkeiten." Unserer Zeitung sagte Siebel gestern außerdem, dass der Tatverdächtige mit erfahrenen Mitarbeitern zusammengearbeitet habe. "Denen wäre es aufgefallen, wenn es eine Verfehlung innerhalb des Dienstes gegeben hätte."

Google translate to.Bolded bit,did he go on holiday to Luz to change his modus to abduct a girl,seriously.


In 1998 Martin N. was still living in Bremen, in 2004 already in Hamburg. From 2000 to 2008 he was a member of a youth housing group of the Protestant youth welfare service Friedenshort GmbH in Hamburg's Harburg district. The employees refer to the telephone on a press release of the support association in Freudenberg in North Rhine-Westphalia. In a statement spokesman Henning Siebel writes about Martin N: "During his entire employment, he appeared as a friendly, dedicated and competent employee in. At no time there were indications or indications of misconduct or abnormalities." Yesterday, Siebel also told our newspaper that the suspect had worked with experienced staff. "They would have noticed if there had been a misconduct within the service."

[kmc]

The papers you quote say Portugal. They do not say near PDL.

Why are you trying to spread misinformation?

Oh my bad!!! Media about him working, at the time of the abduction, for an Evangelical church in Portugal must clearly indicate horrendous misinformation. However, if this is "the guy" that Amaral claims that they interviewed "at the time" - then I assume he was close enough....but maybe not close enough for you??   

[jassi]

Sure.  Check out "Martin Ney and Evangelical" on Google.   You will find articles in the Sun, Mirror, Metro and Birmingham post....posted today.  I assume this to be correct if Amaral claims the PJ interviewed him at the time - the 2011 piece seems too far gone for PJ to have been involved in interviewing him.

Ok have done that.
All these reports appear to stem from a report in the Daily Mirror which gives an unattributed line that Ney was working in Portugal . "Ney was working for an evangelical church on a project for the homeless in Portugal at the time Madeleine vanished."

There is no mention of him being in PDL, or even the Algarve, as far as I could see.

[faithlilly]

The express piece makes no mention of luz,the german piece I linked to says Hamburg.

https://www.gerrymccannsblogs.co.uk/Nigel/id369.htm

It is believed that between 2000 and 2008 he worked for an evangelical church on a project for the homeless.

From the Birmingham Mail

‘Ney was working for an evangelical church on a project for the homeless in Portugal at the time Madeleine vanished.’


It would appear the story’s got mangled in the telling.

[kmc]

Ok have done that.
All these reports appear to stem from a report in the Daily Mirror which gives an unattributed line that Ney was working in Portugal . "Ney was working for an evangelical church on a project for the homeless in Portugal at the time Madeleine vanished."

There is no mention of him being in PDL, or even the Algarve, as far as I could see.

Yet if he is indeed the guy that Amaral claims they interviewed at the time.  Then in 2007 this guy had a very little on his criminal profile, so why do you think the PJ would have interviewed some random church worker from an area any further than the Algarve for this particular case or am I missing something?

[faithlilly]

Yet if he is indeed the guy that Amaral claims they interviewed at the time.  Then in 2007 this guy had a very little on his criminal profile, so why do you think the PJ would have interviewed some random church worker from an area any further than the Algarve for this particular case or am I missing something?

You’re missing something.....Ney, as far as I know, was never questioned by the PJ. Why do you think he was ?

[kmc]

You’re missing something.....Ney, as far as I know, was never questioned by the PJ. Why do you think he was ?

He may well not prove the same man that Amaral was referencing.... but considering how many papers get sued over misinformation in this case plus the hours they took to publis the name Martin Ney and his connection to Portugal - you can assume they had good sources.  Additionally, if they are correct and you re-listen to the podcast - Amaral claims that the PJ interviewed him.  So I can only assume that if all their information is correct - and if it is indeed he that Amaral referenced - then wherever he was - he was pretty damn near PDL.

[kmc]

Why would they interview him at all.? If he had abducted anyone from 5A, it would have been Sean he abducted if it were Ney. All his other victims were young boys. None of them was a girl.

Trying to negate that fact takes stretching reality way beyond what I'm prepared to believe.

I completely agree.  If he is indeed connected - I don't buy that she was not taken for him.

[Venturi Swirl]

There are 3 evangelical churches on the Algarve.

[jassi]

He may well not prove the same man that Amaral was referencing.... but considering how many papers get sued over misinformation in this case plus the hours they took to publis the name Martin Ney and his connection to Portugal - you can assume they had good sources.  Additionally, if they are correct and you re-listen to the podcast - Amaral claims that the PJ interviewed him.  So I can only assume that if all their information is correct - and if it is indeed he that Amaral referenced - then wherever he was - he was pretty damn near PDL.

The guy is festering in a German prison, where he will be until at least 7202.
He's not in any position to sue anyone.

You cannot assume anything of the sort - IMO

[jassi]

There are 3 evangelical churches on the Algarve.

So ?

[Brietta]

What's simplistic about after a person, having given a subject very careful consideration, offers to stake something of value on one of their particular views to the benefit of charity.

£100 says there will never be any conviction of anyone, without Kate & Gerry McCann first giving evidence in any trial, of any accused in the case of their missing daughter. 

It's would be very simplistic to accept the wager.

If there is a trial and they don't give evidence, I lose. Even if there's no a trial but a confession, I lose again.

Fancy it?

Actually ... I think you already have.

[faithlilly]

He may well not prove the same man that Amaral was referencing.... but considering how many papers get sued over misinformation in this case plus the hours they took to publis the name Martin Ney and his connection to Portugal - you can assume they had good sources.  Additionally, if they are correct and you re-listen to the podcast - Amaral claims that the PJ interviewed him.  So I can only assume that if all their information is correct - and if it is indeed he that Amaral referenced - then wherever he was - he was pretty damn near PDL.

Is it possible that Amaral is wrong or Ney is not the paedophile he was talking about ?

Ney was never questioned by the PJ. The parent’s detectives had him in their sights but I don’t believe they interviewed him either.

Clarence does seem rather too keen to put Ney in the frame.....he is reported as saying that he fits the ‘profile’ though even a very cursory reading of the facts show that’s untrue. In fact that Clarence is commenting at all seems to fly in the face of OG alleged request for silence from the parents and their representatives.