Are there thousands of pages not in the file on the internet?

[Venturi Swirl]

A bit of a contradiction, unrecorded information in the files...

Not really, when she says SOME of the information is not recorded in the files.

[Brietta]

Madeleine McCann police seek intruder who attacked girls at holiday homes

"These offences are very serious and no one has been charged in connection with them. We also need to eliminate this man from our inquiries and ascertain whether these offences are linked to Madeleine's disappearance," he said.

"If you have been a victim of a similar crime please come forward even if you reported the incident to police in Portugal, or anywhere else, please do not assume we have been made aware of it."

There was also a "very close resonance" to some features of Madeleine's disappearance, said Redwood.

"We really need to identify the offender, to bring to a close the trauma and the tragedy that these families have suffered, and then seek to establish whether this is connected to Madeleine's disappearance."    DCI Redwood

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/mar/19/madeleine-mccann-police-intruder-girls-algarve



There must have been a reason behind DCI Redwood's advice to crime victims not to assume that SY had been made aware of it even if reported to the Portuguese police.

[Alice Purjorick]

Is there any evidence that different people are given different levels of access to police files?

No!

"If the procedure is not under secrecy of justice its file may be accessed by anyone who has a legitimate reason for doing so".

[Robittybob1]

No!

"If the procedure is not under secrecy of justice its file may be accessed by anyone who has a legitimate reason for doing so".

Not everyone will have the same legitimacy surely?

[G-Unit]

Not everyone will have the same legitimacy surely?

The files are either on the DVD or they're under Judicial Secrecy..Those still under Judicial secrecy would not be released to anyone.

[Alice Purjorick]

Not everyone will have the same legitimacy surely?

It would seem provided the person has legitimacy, which is well delineated, they have access to all the file except personal information and that which is not considered evidence.
It's on page 583 of the EU Commission Tome on the subject.

[Robittybob1]

It would seem provided the person has legitimacy, which is well delineated, they have access to all the file except personal information and that which is not considered evidence.
It's on page 583 of the EU Commission Tome on the subject.

Is that on the internet, can you give me the actual link, I'd like to see if I can get my own copy of the file?

[Venturi Swirl]

Kate also writes in her book of reading in the files of the depraved paedo individuals living in the area, of the crimes they had committed and the actions  (or lack of them) recorded by the Portguese police on visiting some of them.  So how did Kate gain access to these details?

[Robittybob1]

Kate also writes in her book of reading in the files of the depraved paedo individuals living in the area, of the crimes they had committed and the actions  (or lack of them) recorded by the Portguese police on visiting some of them.  So how did Kate gain access to these details?

Didn't she get these via the British Consulate.  That was my impression; was that in her book?

[Venturi Swirl]

Didn't she get these via the British Consulate.  That was my impression; was that in her book?

According to Kate these were records of the Portuguese police visiting the homes of some known child sex offenders, and simply recording “no minor present”.  How would these documents have got into the hands of the British Consulate first?

[Robittybob1]

According to Kate these were records of the Portuguese police visiting the homes of some known child sex offenders, and simply recording “no minor present”.  How would these documents have got into the hands of the British Consulate first?

It didn't take the McCanns long to contact the UK consulate on Portugal, so who knows the other parents may have also reported the incidents to the Consulate particularly in cases where the parents felt the PJ weren't treating it seriously enough.  The Consulate may have been looking into the series of incidences long before the McCann case occurred.

[Venturi Swirl]

It didn't take the McCanns long to contact the UK consulate on Portugal, so who knows the other parents may have also reported the incidents to the Consulate particularly in cases where the parents felt the PJ weren't treating it seriously enough.  The Consulate may have been looking into the series of incidences long before the McCann case occurred.

You are confusing two separate issues - the attacks on British children (known to the consulate) and visits by the PJ to known sex offenders of various nationalities during the McCann investigation.  Why would the British Consulate have had paperwork pertaining to these?

[Robittybob1]

You are confusing two separate issues - the attacks on British children (known to the consulate) and visits by the PJ to known sex offenders of various nationalities during the McCann investigation.  Why would the British Consulate have had paperwork pertaining to these?

The British Consulate could have asked for it.  I don't know exactly.

[Sunny]

A bit of a contradiction, unrecorded information in the files...

Impossible IMO. I think she got the information elsewhere and for whatever reason attributed it to the files.  She may be protecting a source or have forgotten but I don't believe she read it in the files.

There is another item Kate ascribes to the files that isn't in the released copy on the internet, that is:

Page 56 It wasn't until a year later, when I was combing though the Portuguese files, that I discovered that the note requesting our block booking was written in a staff message book, which sat on a desk at the pool reception for most of the day. This book was accessible to all staff and, albeit unintentionally, probably to guests and visitors, too. To my horror, I saw that, no doubt in all innocence and simply to explain why she was bending the rules a bit, the receptionist had added the reason for our request: we wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.

Page 325 It was here [combing through the files] I found the receptionist’s note in the Ocean Club staff message book explaining that we wanted to book the Tapas restaurant for the rest of that week because we were leaving our children alone in our apartments. I was dismayed. This was a green light to a child-taker - and yet no mention of it is made in the files until December 2007.

[Venturi Swirl]

Impossible IMO. I think she got the information elsewhere and for whatever reason attributed it to the files.  She may be protecting a source or have forgotten but I don't believe she read it in the files.

There is another item Kate ascribes to the files that isn't in the released copy on the internet, that is:

Page 56 It wasn't until a year later, when I was combing though the Portuguese files, that I discovered that the note requesting our block booking was written in a staff message book, which sat on a desk at the pool reception for most of the day. This book was accessible to all staff and, albeit unintentionally, probably to guests and visitors, too. To my horror, I saw that, no doubt in all innocence and simply to explain why she was bending the rules a bit, the receptionist had added the reason for our request: we wanted to eat close to our apartments as we were leaving our young children alone there and checking on them intermittently.

Page 325 It was here [combing through the files] I found the receptionist’s note in the Ocean Club staff message book explaining that we wanted to book the Tapas restaurant for the rest of that week because we were leaving our children alone in our apartments. I was dismayed. This was a green light to a child-taker - and yet no mention of it is made in the files until December 2007.

This is information collated by the PJ that Kate has access to that we do not, same as the other examples I have posted.