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The Missing Poster for Joanna Yeates gives a phone number to contact of 0845 456 7000
plus a CID number..... 0117 945 5355


0845 456 7000 is for "Operation Braid".... I have attached another image of a poster with this information upon it...

The odd thing I originally believed that this number had been set up specifically for The Joanna Yeates Murder/Missing person Inquiry..

But it isn't the case .... It's a none emergency number for general use.. this number has been replaced by 101

19 September 2011
101 - The new non-emergency number for Avon & Somerset Police. The old 0845 4567000 number has been replaced by the much easier to remember 101.
If you want to contact Avon & Somerset Constabulary and it is less urgent than 999, you can now call us on 101.
This is part of a national programme to make it easier for you to contact your local police, 101 should be used for non-emergencies such as:
•reporting a crime
•contacting local officers
•getting crime prevention advice
•making the police aware of policing issues in your local area
•making an appointment with a police officer
•for any other non-emergency
101 does not replace 999, which will continue to be used for emergencies.It replaces the existing 0845 number, although there will be a period when both numbers will be available. If you are deaf, hard of hearing or speech impaired, you can textphone us on 18001 101. Calls to 101 from landlines and mobiles cost 15 pence per call, no matter what time of day you call or how long your call lasts. International callers, those in the UK residing outside of England and Wales and those residing in local force areas currently awaiting access to 101 should call 0845 456 7000 to contact Avon and Somerset Police. You can also use this website www.avonandsomerset.police.uk to contact the police.
Remember...
999 should be used for an emergency, when a crime is happening, someone suspected of a crime is nearby, someone is injured, being threatened or in danger.

Seeing as everything about this case was seen as Immediate attention needing, you would have thought that there would have been s dedicated number just for reporting of this crime ... And Crime Stoppers being another number..

On the image I have attached we are given 2 numbers to contact...

Operation Braid.. being 0845 456 7000
Crime Stoppers.. being 0800 555 111

Now the CID telephone number is now Missing from this later poster, which I find odd...

Why when the Missing persons poster I have attached which also includes the "helpfindjo" word press addy and the facebook group on this poster, has the CID's phone number been left off of the poster, and just a general number which is equivalent to calling 101 is there....

This Poster from "helpfindjo" wordpress... only has the 0845 456 7000 number on it..



Are the posters telling??

Firstly why would the CID be involved with a "Missing Persons Inquiry"??? And why remove their number fro the posters ???

The 3rd image I have attached is a poster being held by The Yeates family....  It says ...

We urge anyone with Information to call us quotingOperation Braid on: 0845 456 7000

Is that normal to quote an "Operational Name" when calling the police and not a reference number ??

So why did the phone calls to the Police just go through to an ordinary telephone at the Police Station instead of reaching directly to the incident room at Avon and Somerset Police station???.... Why did the CID number get retracted from the posters???






http://www.swbac.org.uk/htm/n20110922.545350.htm

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Looking at Dr Vincent Tabak's appearances in court  I came across this reference for 2015..

The court heard Tabak’s former girlfriend was interviewed and said the engineer, who she described as being “very good” at computers, would use his laptop while sitting in his lounge. Ford said Tabak would remain on the sex offenders’ register for 10 years and banned him from working with children or young people.

How again are they Referencing anything to do with Tanja Morson in relation to any apparent crime that Dr Vincent Tabak was supposed to have committed if she was not at court to confirm this .... How is that possible ??

Also when talking about a fair trial Dean Armstrong......

Dean Armstrong QC had argued that his client could not receive a fair trial due to his notoriety and the portrayal of him during the two-part ITV drama The Lost Honour of Christopher Jefferies. But the judge ruled: “I take the view that it will be possible for Mr Tabak to have a fair trial.”

Wouldn't the real issue be the fact the trial was held in Bristol and the National Media reported unsubstanciated claims about Dr Vincent Tabak after his trial...  The Porn/ child porn had already come into the public domain, so any jury would already be prejudiced when Dr Vincent Tabak attended court... And as there was never any independant testing of said computer we still don't know where these images came from....

The mentioning of The Lost Honour of Christopher Jefferies at court also seems a little strange, they had already had previous documentaries that portrayed Dr Vincent Tabak in an unfavourable light... what had the program about CJ got anything to do with it....

Because oddly enough he appear in court literally months after the showing of that production... The Police and CPS have had years in which to take Dr Vincent Tabak to court in relation to the allegations of child porn.... But they instead appear to what for the screening of The Lost Honour of CJ, and then Dr Vincent Tabak goes to Court......

Is that coincidence ????


https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2015/mar/02/vincent-tabak-admits-possessing-indecent-images-of-children

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Interesting thought that it might not have been a coincidence that the second trial came shortly after the film.

By the time VT was tried for the child porn, many people would have forgotten about the first trial, and had it not been for the "Lost Honour of CJ", they would possibly have forgotten the case too.

As for Tanja, I very much doubt that she was interviewed by anybody about VT in 2014/15.  It's probably true that she did say that her boyfriend was "very good at computers" etc, but I expect that was back in 2011. Just my opinion!

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I know I have posted this quote before and If John wishes to remove it that fine... But....

The first issue I originally pointed out was that Jessica had been informed of Joanna Yeates disappearance by the weekend of 17th - 19th December 2010... which of course is before the Police were informed of Joanna Yeates disappearance.... How can that be ????

But within the comment I do not know if Jessica actually works for BDP.... Did she work for some one else...

She states her and Joanna Yeates paths may have crossed many times, but in what capacity is she talking.... ??

Jessica Siggers states about receiving the message from BDP... She says it in the context of plural... which sounds as if she is talking about another company... (imo)
So how many "Companies"/"People" did BDP inform that Joanna Yeates was a "Missing Person"... before she was Offically reported Missing....

Darragh Bewell wasn't phoned till midnight... so the earliest anyone from BDP should know of Joanna Yeates disappearance is Monday 20th December 2010...

But it appears from reading Jessica's facebook message.. that more people knew about the disappearance of Joanna Yeates, before the police we informed.....

Which companies had been informed of this situation and how did they get the information before the Official Channels did???

And were is the communications between BDP and any other company at this time ??? Don't believe they were even looked at by the Defence ....(imo)....

Is this another piece of information that points towards the 16th December 2010 being an important date ... seeing as Dr Vincent Tabak was charged from that date ??

Jessica Siggers
27 December 2010
Travelling back to my home in Clifton today which will never feel the same again. Jo, I never knew you but our paths may have crossed many times. You, your family & Greg have not left my thoughts since last weekend when we received a message from BDP. I wanted to go out and search there & then. No-one should be taken the way you were. It's a cruel world but for what it's worth, you will get justice. RIP beautiful girl. X

https://www.facebook.com/groups/169097479794933/

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I think you mean Monday 20th December!

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I think you mean Monday 20th December!

Thanks for that mrswah... hit the wrong key....

I have edited it....

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This message was from Rebecca Scott at 12:06 on Saturday 25th December 2010

Rebecca Scott
25 December 2010
IF ANYONE HAS INFORMAITON PLEASE GO DIRECTLY TO THE POLICE WITH IT!

Maybe I am reading this wrong... But with knowing that Joanna Yeates was found on 25th December 2010 Rebecca's message does tie in... And I cannot see another reason why on that date she would write this message...

This was why I wanted to know when it was reported on the TV News....

On the online News it was around 12:30... But I thought the TV News was around 1:00pm when the fire trucks turned up...

Now when they did the video Interview of Rebecca Scott, she said that she heard the News through the Telly about Joanna Yeates being found ....

Erm..... (licks and purses lips)..
You know what when obviously when.... the the news was on con constantly... as soon as her body was found (someone speaks to her ) Yer Yer through the telly...

Her facebook comment to me contradicts that....  But if I am correct that it wasn't on the TV News before 1:00pm ish... How did Rebecca Scott know that she had been found, before anyone else was told... going by her Facebook post..??

I have attached an image of her post... and I hovered over the date that was how I got the time....

What do other people think ??



http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8056.msg422287#msg422287

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From the #helpfindjo“  wordpress dated 19th January 2011Mrs Yeates appealing to the media

Jo’s parents have made a further statement appealing to those responsible for their daughters death.

“We are making this appeal as we feel this is one way we can help this police investigation. We feel we are part of the police investigation, just as much as the investigating officers. We spend much of our time – as I imagine most of the country does – thinking of scenarios which took Jo, alive in her flat, to being found dead by the side of a country lane. These scenarios change as events unfold, and new facts are made available. All our thoughts are passed back to the police. Although we invariably do not have all the facts known by the police, we do know Jo. We know what Jo would do, and how she would react in different situations. This, we believe, is our major contribution.

“Whatever we do or say, we do not want to frustrate or compromise the police investigation.

“For over three weeks there has been extensive media coverage of Jo’s disappearance and murder. The last few weeks have encompassed an extensive festive period. Many people will have probably been socialising and spending extra time with family and friends.

“Nearly the whole country has been moved by the tragic events surrounding Jo’s murder.

“Many of us are ‘armchair detectives’, but if this activity triggers anything please come forward.

“If you do know something and you do not come forward you are consciously hampering the apprehension of Jo’s killer(s) and the perpetrator(s) is still free.
You will also be prolonging the torment of Jo’s family and friends.

“Do you know anyone that hasn’t been shocked or disturbed?

“Has anyone you know had an unusual or inexplicable reaction?

“Was their behaviour unusual on the week-end of 17/18/19th December, or throughout the past three weeks?

“Do you know someone who has been behaving out of character either by actions, or what is said – or not said? Do you know someone who has inexplicably become reclusive, quiet or vocal?

“As mentioned above, scenarios abound regarding Jo. Has someone tried to impress on you a scenario which has been inconsistent with the information released by the police at that time – and refused to change it?

“It would appear that the nation is shocked and appalled by what has happened to our daughter. Do you know someone who has been, somehow, justifying her being killed?

“Please help us identify the killer. Jo was probably acquainted with her killer.

“We are sure the killer will be brought to justice. When this happens, please think how you will feel, if you knew the killer, and you had questions in your mind which you consciously refused to act on.”

The parents helped the police with their Investigations by appealing to "Someone" who might know "Something"..

But I cannot see how they would be allowed to make the statement if the content was not accurate... The Police would have read the statement that was prepared by The Yeates family...

We spend much of our time – as I imagine most of the country does – thinking of scenarios which took Jo, alive in her flat, to being found dead by the side of a country lane.

This contradicts entirely what the Police have said and what the trial said , having Joanna Yeates killed in her Flat...

Why did they believe and why did the Police not correct the statement which clearly indicates that Joanna Yeates was alive when she left her flat??

Does this go with the possibility that CJ did in fact see Joanna Yeates leave the premises with 2 other people ???
Or... That Joanna Yeates never returned to her Flat after she had been to The Bristol Ram??

I cannot forget what DS Mark Saunders and Colin Port both say about the CCTV footage...

DS Mark Saunders, talks of the footage for that weekend on Canygne Road with people milling about and lots of cars... But never mentions seeing Joanna Yeates on this Footage..

And Colin Port tells the Leveson Inquiry that the last known CCTV footage of Joanna Yeates is from The HopHouse Pub...

With the statement Mrs Yeates made to the media I wonder if Joanna Yeates on the Private CCTV footage, seeing as they say that she was taken "ALIVE" from her Flat... which in turn would mean that Colin Port told the Leveson an untruth.... !


https://helpfindjo.wordpress.com/

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When the penny drops the penny drops.... The images we get of CCTV footage stick with us... And with me too....

Joanna Yeates and The Hophouse Pub...

Colin Port telling the Leveson Inquiry that the last known images of Joanna yeates was at The Hop house pub... And with us knowing about the pub and seeing the CCTV footage from around 8:45pm on Friday the 17th December 2010, I again assumed she couldn't have reached Canygne Road.... "(wrong)!"

If we take into account CJ's statement and people leaving Canygne Road on the Friday 17th December 2010, he very well could be talking about Joanna Yeates... And Colin Port was NOT then Telling an untruth... Because she went back out and went past "The Hop house Pub" again.... This is a very good possibility....

We have to remember that Colin Port insisted that they removed the entire CCTV system from The Hop house Pub...

23/12/10: A subsequent report and examination of the material confirmed
that Ms Yeates was seen walking past the Hop House camera heading in the
direction of her home address.

This quote tells us what they want us to know... Joanna Yeates is seen walking home....

But......

27/12/10: A CCTV technician visited the Hop House to download additional
footage. The manager was not present but it was clear that the brand of
CCTV unit was one with a long retention period and thus footage would not
be lost. A return visit was planned to swap the unit with a loan CCTV unit
when the manager was available, During the week 27-31/12/10 a second
CCTV technician attended once again to carry out the swap as planned but
the premises were closed.
4/1/11: A CCTV technician attended at the Hop House with a new CCTV
loan unit and seized the Hop House unit, A reporter was at the premises
when he attended.

So.. I always wondered why Colin Port felt the need to seize The Hop House Pub CCTV system if all we have is Joanna Yeates walking home on a grainy bit of footage....

I believe that Colin Port is probably correct when he says the last known footage of Joanna Yeates is The Hop House Pub What we really need to consider is, What time and What Date.... these images of Joanna Yeates at The hop House Pub were... I believe it is very possible that there was other footage of Joanna Yeates at The Hop House Pub, that Colin Port didn't want anyone to know about... and he carefully crafted his response to The Leveson...(imo)..

Because he had No good reason to remove the entire CCTV system from The Hop House Pub unless their was some other evidence of Joanna Yeates being there... and possibly being there with someone else... Or walking past with someone else....

What additional footage did they download ?????

27/12/10: A CCTV technician visited the Hop House to download additional
footage.

They already had downloaded the CCTV footage of Joanna Yeates journey home....  Again what was on this additional footage ??

Have I too mis-judged Colin Port?? Was Colin Port also trying to tell us something through The Leveson Inquiry??

Because Colin Port didn't need to inform us of those two additional pieces of information...

(1): Being the additional footage
(2): The Removal of The Entire System....

Just like DCI Phil Jones mentioning the trainer Underneath the kitchen sink unit... Colin Port also could have left that info out of his Leveson Papers...

4/1/11: Ryan Parry called the press office stating that he wanted to make
us aware of CCTV footage from the Hop House Pub in Clifton of Jo Yeates on
her journey home, He says that the manager has told him that we have not
yet seen this CCTV because we are waiting to take the whole CCTV unit and
tells us that the paper is planning to publish tomorrow.

Looking at that quote... Did Joanna Yeates enter The Hop House Pub?? Did she go past it again??

The Police were already aware of some Hop House Pub footage on the 23rd December 2010 and by the 4th January 2011, the paper and The Police both act... I think there must be more to The Hop House Pub CCTV than that one grainy image that we know about.... (imo)

http://webarchive.nationalarchives.gov.uk/20140122184118/http://www.levesoninquiry.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2012/04/Witness-Statement-of-Chief-Constable-Colin-Port.pdf

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Why was Greg Reardons movements ever questioned by the defence? I'm trying to establish the course of events because they do not make sense ...

Was Greg actually at the Flat when The Yeates family arrived... Or was he off somewhere searching for Joanna Yeates ..??  The Yeates look for Joanna Yeates around the neighbourhood on their own... They never mention Greg helping them to look!!

And there is no mention of what he did from when Mr and Mrs Yeates arrive at the flat... Because he tided before they arrived...

If no one else is going to ask the question I will....

What did Greg Reardon do between ringing The police and the Police arriving?? Because I do not believe the police arrived at that Flat till after Mrs yeates went around banging the neighbours up shouting for her daughter....

So little is known of Greg Reardons movements... We know he went to Sheffield for the weekend, because Greg tells us so... No-one confirms this... There's nothing to substanciate that claim...

We know he ate Pizza

We Know he went back out to his car

We Know he tided up...

We know he rang Mr and Mrs Yeates and the Police...

But we have 4 hours before we ring Mr and Mrs Yeates , without any great detail of what he did in that tiny flat for that time.... And after he rings The Yeates family we know what ????

Was he even in The Flat when he rang the Yeates family??? We don't know that either... we just assume he is... But it was Greg's name that appeared on Mrs Yeates phone.. So it wouldn't have been the house phone he had used....

What evidence is there that once Greg Reardon arrived back at Canygne Road at 8:00pm that he stayed there...??

We know he went out to the car.... Did he actually drive off somewhere... ??

I had presumed like most that Greg Reardon was always with a family liason Officer at all times with his girlfriend missing.... But that was not the case....

Greg, who returned to work just a week after Jo was found to help him cope
with his grief, intends to stay in Bristol and has bought a small flat in
the city centre.

I know people have different ways of coping but i find that plain weird! This is a high profile case... It is all over the media far and wide... I am surprised he didn't keep a low profile...

Why weren't the media camped outside Greg's place of work all the time if he was so easier to locate ???

Now of all of the statements that Greg has made which are few and far between...this has to be the strangest....

He said: “When I found out she had not been admitted to any hospital, or been
picked up by the police, or returned to work on the Monday morning I could
only fear the worst.

If he didn't ring round the hospitals, why would he know whether she had been admitted or not ??

And what reason would there be for Joanna Yeates to be picked up by the Police ?? That is a strange statement in itself??
I thought Greg had already feared the worse when Joanna Yeates didn't answer here phone on the 19th December 2010 at 9:00pm??

Why is he talking about her returning to work on the Monday Morning???  I think it's time that Avon and Somerset Police answered a few questions... Now that would be Interesting!



https://www.thesun.co.uk/archives/news/968556/jo-yeates-boyfriend-tells-of-heartbreak-at-christmas/

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Problem is, can we take a report by "The Sun" as being completely accurate??????

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Problem is, can we take a report by "The Sun" as being completely accurate??????

Therefore we cannot take any reports as being completely accurate... Who are we supposed to trust in regards to reports in the papers???

None of them questioned anything in relation to this case.... which I find mighty strange...   why didn't any reporters question the trial???

The information at trial just doesn't add up... The sentencing ...doesn't make sense...  You can't add 5 extra years to someones sentence because you feel like it... Those aggravating factors that were used are not aggravating factors within law...

It's about time someone who knows law looks at this case mrswah.... It's a travesty.....

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Therefore we cannot take any reports as being completely accurate... Who are we supposed to trust in regards to reports in the papers???

None of them questioned anything in relation to this case.... which I find mighty strange...   why didn't any reporters question the trial???

The information at trial just doesn't add up... The sentencing ...doesn't make sense...  You can't add 5 extra years to someones sentence because you feel like it... Those aggravating factors that were used are not aggravating factors within law...

It's about time someone who knows law looks at this case mrswah.... It's a travesty.....

Well, don't forget Sally Ramage !  She knows law, looked at the trial, and wasn't happy------------

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Well, don't forget Sally Ramage !  She knows law, looked at the trial, and wasn't happy------------

Now I wasn't adding Sally Ramage to that list mrswah..... I was meaning the tabloids... I should have made myself clear....

Sally Ramage is in a class of her own... And if it wasn't for her I wouldn't be where I am today with The Joanna Yeates Case....

So Thank You Sally Ramage.... 

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This move by Avon and Somerset Police is rather strange.... It was after CJ got an apology from Avon and Somerset Police..

We know that CJ never sued Avon and Somerset Police, but sued the tabloids instead.. Now my question is this...

Why would Avon and Somerset Police pay CJ compensation for damage done to his property???  What damage??? The complete staging of Flat 1 perhaps???

quote from The Guardian... Dated: Monday 16 September 2013 10.22 BST

Gargan's letter to Jefferies is part of a legal settlement with the police, which has included Jefferies being paid some compensation for damage caused to his property.

So there was some kind of legal settlement from Avon and Somerset Police, which included compensation for damage to CJ's property...
That has to be Flat 1... I cannot see it being anything else... Because I remember that on 4th May 2011 that CJ's Flat was up for sale and there was no damage to HIS Flat.... that leaves the basement...

Also in May 2011 Flat 2 had had a refurbishment..... And I wouldn't imaging it was Flat 2... which leave Flat 1... which as we can see from the photo's of this flat some dodgy work had been completed...

What did Flat 1 originally look like ?? Because I will keep saying that it wasn't the crime scene they told us it was !!! The photographs and videos of Flat 1 prove that....

Flat 1 had to be left empty until after the trial... And (imo) CJ had to have already had an agreement with Avon and Somerset Police for lost revenue for the Flat we know as Flat 1... So I believe that CJ had leverage and spent until 2013 bashing out the finer details of what he required....(imo)

The Avon and Somerset Police were never going to allow CJ to take them to court.... That would have brought the Second Witness Statement into play... And under NO Circumstances do they want the content of that statement made public...(imo)...

So CJ had the upper hand..... This is why CJ got the Avon and Somerset Police to give a PUBLIC apology...(imo)... not out of any service to a private citizen.... They had too... CJ had them by the proverbials...!!! (imo)

"While it is not normal practice to make such a public statement, in the circumstances of the exceptional media attention your arrest attracted, I acknowledge we should have considered this and I am very sorry for the suffering you experienced as a result."

No it isn't NORMAL!!! You had no choice...(imo)...
The content of that second witness statement is the whole case
And whoever CJ saw that evening has to be the person/persons who were involved with Joanna Yeates death... (imo).. And not Dr Vincent Tabak... Because if that was the case there wouldn't be so much secrecy surrounding CJ's second witness statement... and the police wouldn't be making public apologies and throwing compensation at CJ willy nilly...(imo)...

How much compensation did CJ receive and how much of that was for damages to the property??? And when was this compensation paid??? I'm of the opinion it has to be around the time of this article... because I believe that CJ wanted a public apology from the Police... And that was also part of this legal settlement ...(imo)!!

Because CJ had the Leverage and The Police could do nothing about that....

Next question.... Did the Police have CJ sign a gagging order as part of this Legal Settlement?? because I cannot see any other reason as to why CJ has never come forward and explained everything what took place at 44, Canygne Road in December 2010 and January 2011.... And up until the and the end of the trial in October 2011..!!

Now there's food for thought!

Be Interesting to see this Legal Settlement and it Contents!

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/16/joanna-yeates-police-apologise-christopher-jefferies