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jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3405 on: March 19, 2019, 07:00:28 PM »
It definitely is from release. They have 3 days to sign on at the Police station. They can apply to be removed after 15 years from release not from the sentence starting.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3406 on: March 19, 2019, 07:04:22 PM »
Here Nine, educate yourself, in Tabak’s own words from the trial he tells you how the breast was exposed,

Defence Counsel: What did you do then?
Tabak: I tried to hide the body. I tried to put the body over the fence.
Defence Counsel: Were you able to? Tabak: No, the body was too heavy.
Defence Counsel: Did the body come into contact with the wall? Tabak: Yes. But she was too heavy.
Defence Counsel: Part of her breast was exposed- how did that happen? Tabak: Perhaps when carrying her body.
Defence Counsel: Your DNA was found on the breast of the body- how did that come about?
Tabak: I think as I was trying to put the body over the wall.


My theory, Tabak probably exposed the breast for sexual pleasure and pleasured himself at the sight of it, cleaning up after him but leaving his  DNA on poor Joanna.


It was either a wall or a fence.....  Apparently Joanna Yeates was found by a wall on Longwood lane, there are various arguments as to the exact location of where she was found.... having several fire service vehicles at the scene at the time of discovery tends to suggest she was in an inaccessible place...

Sounds to me that someone suggested these areas to Dr Vincent Tabak...  maybe at the time of his varying interviews, who can tell...

Wall and fence would make more sense if someone was referring to the boundary of Canygne Road... But she wasn't found there.....

As for how the breast was exposed... that appears to be a guess..(imo)

I do not believe this was throughly investigated as a crime... When there were so many other lines of inquiry that could and should have been explored... They just stuck to that address and never moved from it, even though nothing conclusively proved that Joanna Yeates actually reached her home....


https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/missing-woman-joanna-yeates-police-find-body-general-news-footage/688789862

Footage of Fire trucks arriving.....

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3407 on: March 19, 2019, 07:05:40 PM »
It definitely is from release. They have 3 days to sign on at the Police station. They can apply to be removed after 15 years from release not from the sentence starting.
Ok thanks for that jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3408 on: March 19, 2019, 07:11:35 PM »
It definitely is from release. They have 3 days to sign on at the Police station. They can apply to be removed after 15 years from release not from the sentence starting.
It just had me confused that’s all?

Under the Sex Offenders Act, all convicted sex offenders must register with the police, in person, within three days of their conviction, or release from prison. The police are notified by the courts following a conviction; and both the prisons and probation service following an offenders release back into the community. This enables the police to monitor when individuals must come to register.



jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3410 on: March 19, 2019, 07:21:58 PM »
The conviction or release from prison signing covers anyone convicted of a sex offence whether they have gone to prison or not.

Anyone with a community based sentence will sign it sooner than anyone in custody . The restrictions/monitoring can start with immediate effect unlike those in prisons.

Its not written in the most straight forward way though
« Last Edit: March 19, 2019, 07:36:58 PM by jixy »

jixy

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3411 on: March 19, 2019, 07:23:10 PM »
Hi Jixy... what brings you back?

Had a spare few minutes and i dont really like people defending those who like to look at pictures of children never mind murder!

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3412 on: March 19, 2019, 07:34:44 PM »
Im not 100 per cent sure jixy, but as I understood it the period applies from conviction and not release?  Maybe someone could verify this for us?

Hi Justice, the register is to protect the public so it makes sense for it to start on release.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3413 on: March 19, 2019, 07:37:22 PM »
Had a spare few minutes and i dont really like people defending those who like to look at pictures of children never mind murder!
At last, couldn’t agree more.  Tabak is the worst of the worst.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3414 on: March 19, 2019, 07:38:42 PM »

It was either a wall or a fence.....  Apparently Joanna Yeates was found by a wall on Longwood lane, there are various arguments as to the exact location of where she was found.... having several fire service vehicles at the scene at the time of discovery tends to suggest she was in an inaccessible place...

Sounds to me that someone suggested these areas to Dr Vincent Tabak...  maybe at the time of his varying interviews, who can tell...

Wall and fence would make more sense if someone was referring to the boundary of Canygne Road... But she wasn't found there.....

As for how the breast was exposed... that appears to be a guess..(imo)


I do not believe this was throughly investigated as a crime... When there were so many other lines of inquiry that could and should have been explored... They just stuck to that address and never moved from it, even though nothing conclusively proved that Joanna Yeates actually reached her home....


https://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/video/missing-woman-joanna-yeates-police-find-body-general-news-footage/688789862

Footage of Fire trucks arriving.....

It;s a best guess that makes sense as opposed to the notion that it is linked to a painting and or a statue  @)(++(*

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3415 on: March 19, 2019, 07:41:07 PM »
Hi Justice, the register is to protect the public so it makes sense for it to start on release.
Hi Caroline, Thanks for that, I did think that but when I read it saying from conviction I wasn’t 100 per cent.  I think Tabak is unusual with the 20 years prison sentence for murder then 10 years for sex offence.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3416 on: March 19, 2019, 07:46:01 PM »
Hi Caroline, Thanks for that, I did think that but when I read it saying from conviction I wasn’t 100 per cent.  I think Tabak is unusual with the 20 years prison sentence for murder then 10 years for sex offence.

I think they may have taken into account that it was most likely the motive for murder and that makes his more dangerous.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3417 on: March 19, 2019, 07:46:34 PM »
Hi Justice, the register is to protect the public so it makes sense for it to start on release.


I guess there's be no sense in them serving that sentence in prison where fellow prisoners are the only people they come into contact with.

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3418 on: March 19, 2019, 07:52:34 PM »
Mrswah its vital he is on the Register as he is attracted to children. The 10 years wouldnt start until his release so it really does matter.

No excuses can be made for pictures , Im sure he didnt admit his guilt yet again, just to get it out of the way! He is guilty!

But the question has to be... How was he put on the website that is The Uk and Ireland data base in August 2012?? When he didn't actually go to court until March 2015??

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Vincent Tabak – Bristol
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Monday
Aug 2012
Posted by Author in Avon and Somerset & Bristol ≈ Comments Off on Vincent Tabak – Bristol
November 2011
Child porn found on Vincent Tabak’s laptop

Murderer Vincent Tabak kept images of children being sexually abused on his laptop computer, police have discovered.
The 33-year-old killer was jailed for life on Friday after a jury found him guilty of throttling 25-year-old Joanna Yeates.
Following his conviction at Bristol Crown Court it was revealed that the Dutch engineer was obsessed with images of women being strangled during sex and had perversions for violent pornography and prostitutes.
It also came to light that Tabak faced further questioning by police relating to material discovered on the hard drives of computers he used.
It has now been reported that Avon and Somerset Police discovered 30 images of youngsters being sexually abused.
An officer involved in the investigation, who asked not to be named, told the Bristol Evening Post that he and his colleagues wanted to clear up speculation surrounding these “other matters”.
He said: “Tabak had 30 images depicting child pornography on his laptop computer at home.
“They were all category four images.”
The officer said that, due to Tabak’s conviction for murder and life sentence, he did not think the Crown Prosecution Service would take action.
There are five levels of seriousness for offences involving indecent photographs of children, which start with images depicting “erotic posing with no sexual activity”.
Category four images depict penetrative sexual activity involving a child or children, or both children and adults.
Detective Chief Inspector Phil Jones, who led the murder investigation, confirmed: “During the examination of Vincent Tabak’s computer, other material was found.
“We have referred this matter to the Crown Prosecution Service for initial guidance.”
Once referred to the CPS they will consider a number of criteria before charging someone with an offence.
This includes whether it is in the public interest to do so.
Jurors in Tabak’s trial were not told that videos found on his computers had chilling parallels with the way Miss Yeates died.
His pornography depicted blonde women being throttled during sex or bundled into car boots.
Two weeks before murdering the landscape architect, he also paid for sex with a prostitute during a business trip to Los Angeles.
But despite being blocked from hearing of his depraved sex secrets, jurors still found him guilty of murdering his next-door neighbour on December 17 last year.
The frozen body of Miss Yeates, who lived with her boyfriend, Greg Reardon, in a flat in Canynge Road, Clifton, Bristol, was found on Christmas morning by a couple walking their dog on a country lane in Failand, North Somerset.
Tabak was jailed for life by Mr Justice Field and told he would serve at least 20 years in prison before he could apply for parole.

Nothing here is said about his court appearance... They have just informed everyone that it is apparently true years before a trial took place.... Now that is weird!

So how did the person who wrote this know for a fact that there were images on Dr Vincent Tabak's computer, when it hadn't been proven at the time of this post on the data base....

I keep saying this case is off.... Well that's off if someone can be named on a data base before they have even been taken to court for such a crime...


What was the court case number of Dr Vincent Tabak, for the crime of child abuse images??  Or was it just something the papers reported on that didn't happen??

Edit... You see it's always odd that Dr Vincent Tabak pleads guilty, when this data base could have been seen as prejudicial if he faced a jury.... Now no-one representing him pointed that gem out, did they!!


Please do not misinterpret my post... I do not support child abuse, I find it abhorrant.. But i find that this particular man appears to plead guilty at the drop of a hat, and if he was on a minimum of 20 years, i am sure he wouldn't want to rock the boat... So pleading guilty could be seen as a way forward...


https://theukdatabase.com/2012/08/20/vincent-tabak-bristol/

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Re: The Defence Will State Their Case
« Reply #3419 on: March 19, 2019, 08:00:36 PM »
But the question has to be... How was he put on the website that is The Uk and Ireland data base in August 2012?? When he didn't actually go to court until March 2015??

Nothing here is said about his court appearance... They have just informed everyone that it is apparently true years before a trial took place.... Now that is weird!

So how did the person who wrote this know for a fact that there were images on Dr Vincent Tabak's computer, when it hadn't been proven at the time of this post on the data base....

I keep saying this case is off.... Well that's off if someone can be named on a data base before they have even been taken to court for such a crime...


What was the court case number of Dr Vincent Tabak, for the crime of child abuse images??  Or was it just something the papers reported on that didn't happen??


https://theukdatabase.com/2012/08/20/vincent-tabak-bristol/
The Ukdatabase you have put up isn’t the real one run by the police, it is run by paedofile hunters who name and shame, you cannot access the one run by the police.