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Offline John

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1110 on: February 27, 2021, 07:56:18 PM »
The prison would not let him do that. There is nothing to say he spoke directly to them. People shouldn't make assumptions about anything

It was a phone call. Been there, done it!  I know how the system works.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline John

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1111 on: February 27, 2021, 07:57:41 PM »
Can I just check that warning also goes to people posting photos and making an assumption of it being an innocent person not connected to anyone to do with Luke Mitchell's case?

Indeed  8((()*/
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

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Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1112 on: February 27, 2021, 08:01:05 PM »
It was a phone call. Been there, done it!  I know how the system works.

Not disputing in your experience this could be the case but there isnt anything to suggest that Luke spoke directly with the documentary makers so we really cant presume he did. There could be numerous ways this actually happened

Offline John

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1113 on: February 27, 2021, 08:51:32 PM »
Not disputing in your experience this could be the case but there isnt anything to suggest that Luke spoke directly with the documentary makers so we really cant presume he did. There could be numerous ways this actually happened

I agree, for all we know he was given a set of questions and all he had to do was respond to them using a phone (legal or otherwise).  The Scottish Prison system is awash with illegal mobile phones unfortunately.
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Brietta

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1114 on: February 27, 2021, 11:28:38 PM »
I agree, for all we know he was given a set of questions and all he had to do was respond to them using a phone (legal or otherwise).  The Scottish Prison system is awash with illegal mobile phones unfortunately.

The law was changed last year, John.  Inmates in Scottish prisons were allowed basic models. So he could have been in legitimate phone contact depending when the documentary was made.

https://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/scottish-inmates-be-allowed-mobile-phones-prison-2542375

https://www.edinburghlive.co.uk/news/edinburgh-news/scots-prisoners-allowed-keep-new-18787643
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Offline Angelo222

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1115 on: February 28, 2021, 09:44:43 AM »
Any further breaches of forum etiquette will have dire consequences for the member involved.  The rules are clear on defamatory comment.
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Offline John

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1116 on: February 28, 2021, 10:04:30 AM »
Any further breaches of forum etiquette will have dire consequences for the member involved.  The rules are clear on defamatory comment.

I made it clear on Friday that this topic will be locked if the rules continue to be broken. This forum WILL NOT be used as a platform for personal vendettas. End off!

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« Last Edit: February 28, 2021, 10:14:37 AM by John »
A malicious prosecution for a crime which never existed. An exposé of egregious malfeasance by public officials.
Indeed, the truth never changes with the passage of time.

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1117 on: March 01, 2021, 08:55:44 PM »
’Claiming killer innocent part of search for truth - The Scotsman - May 2007’

"He is your normal, antsy, in-your-face teenager. Did he do it? I believe there were a couple of other people with more ability and opportunity, with more evidence pointing in that direction than in Luke's.

"To me, it's clear they have the wrong guy."

• No Smoke: The Shocking Truth About British Justice, by Sandra Lean

https://www.scotsman.com/arts-and-culture/claiming-killer-innocent-part-search-truth-2453025

They haven’t
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1118 on: March 01, 2021, 09:20:24 PM »
They haven’t

You do realise that this is a discussion forum and that discussion should be with other members, not yourself?

Asking for a friend.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1119 on: March 01, 2021, 09:35:37 PM »
In 2007 Sandra lean stated

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To me, it's clear they have the wrong guy."

What had Sandra based this presumption on - given we now know her and Corrine were wrong about SK being on the path
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http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10768.msg642470#msg642470

And does SK know about this?
« Last Edit: March 01, 2021, 09:54:20 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline faithlilly

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1120 on: March 01, 2021, 10:33:51 PM »
In 2007 Sandra lean stated

What had Sandra based this presumption on - given we now know her and Corrine were wrong about SK being on the path
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http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=10768.msg642470#msg642470

And does SK know about this?

Take SK out of the equation and you still have all or none of the named males as the perpetrator.

She made a mistake, held her hands up to it but it was 14 years ago...let it go.
Brietta posted on 10/04/2022 “But whether or not that is the reason behind the delay I am certain that Brueckner's trial is going to take place.”

Let’s count the months, shall we?

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1121 on: May 08, 2021, 06:52:43 PM »
Sandra Lean claims today,

I’d never have believed that simply telling the truth could be twisted so far out of recognition


One tiny grain of truth submerged in a deluge of half truths and outright lies - there’s no way to counter that...’

Telling...
« Last Edit: May 08, 2021, 07:33:39 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1122 on: May 08, 2021, 10:34:35 PM »
‘In Luke’s FIRST SWORN STATEMENT to Police at Dalkeith Police Station, in the early hours of the 1st of July 2003, he swore that ALL FOUR of the search party consisting of JaJ, SK, AW and himself had walked some 20 yards (18 m) past a “V”-shaped hole in the wall and that Mia remained behind clawing at a “V” in the wall, alerting him to something suspicious. Luke stated that all four turned around together and they all walked back together to Mia clawing at the “V” and it was at that moment that Luke climbed in through the “V” in the wall and that it was his dog Mia that alerted him to the location of Jodi’s remains.

In their FIRST SWORN STATEMENT to Police at Newbattle Police Station, in the early hours of the 1st of July 2003, JaJ, SK, AW gave the exact same version of events as Luke; they corroborated Luke's sworn statement to police.

THEN, between the early hours of Tuesday the 1st of July 2003 and late afternoon on the 2nd of July 2003, JaJ, SK, AW met with police again and CHANGED THEIR FIRST SWORN STATEMENTS.

In their “SECOND SWORN STATEMENTS” JaJ, SK, AW swore they had walked the 20 yards past the "V" in the wall and that Luke had not walked past the “V” but instead Luke had remained behind at the "V" with Mia before he, Luke climbed over the wall with Mia to discover Jodi’s remains, which was concealed by vegetation.

JaJ, SK, AW swore that Luke alerted them and they walked back the 20 yards to him and Mia. JaJ, SK, AW swore that Luke found Jodi’s remains by himself, that it was Luke that led them directly to Jodi’s body
« Last Edit: May 08, 2021, 10:40:04 PM by Nicholas »
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline Nicholas

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1123 on: May 08, 2021, 11:26:34 PM »
‘In Luke’s FIRST SWORN STATEMENT to Police at Dalkeith Police Station, in the early hours of the 1st of July 2003, he swore that ALL FOUR of the search party consisting of JaJ, SK, AW and himself had walked some 20 yards (18 m) past a “V”-shaped hole in the wall and that Mia remained behind clawing at a “V” in the wall, alerting him to something suspicious. Luke stated that all four turned around together and they all walked back together to Mia clawing at the “V” and it was at that moment that Luke climbed in through the “V” in the wall and that it was his dog Mia that alerted him to the location of Jodi’s remains.

In their FIRST SWORN STATEMENT to Police at Newbattle Police Station, in the early hours of the 1st of July 2003, JaJ, SK, AW gave the exact same version of events as Luke; they corroborated Luke's sworn statement to police.

THEN, between the early hours of Tuesday the 1st of July 2003 and late afternoon on the 2nd of July 2003, JaJ, SK, AW met with police again and CHANGED THEIR FIRST SWORN STATEMENTS.

In their “SECOND SWORN STATEMENTS” JaJ, SK, AW swore they had walked the 20 yards past the "V" in the wall and that Luke had not walked past the “V” but instead Luke had remained behind at the "V" with Mia before he, Luke climbed over the wall with Mia to discover Jodi’s remains, which was concealed by vegetation.

JaJ, SK, AW swore that Luke alerted them and they walked back the 20 yards to him and Mia. JaJ, SK, AW swore that Luke found Jodi’s remains by himself, that it was Luke that led them directly to Jodi’s body


Hasn’t Sandra Lean claimed the families statements were change a month later ?
Who wants to take on this great massive lie?” Writer Martin Preib on the tsunami of innocence fraud sweeping our nation

Offline William Wallace

Re: Is Luke Mitchell guilty - your views
« Reply #1124 on: May 13, 2021, 10:37:30 PM »
Maybe [Name removed] wasn't aware the T-shirt was soiled. Maybe it looked and smelled clean. Maybe [Name removed]'s sister thought it had been laundered before she loaned it out?

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