Vincent Tabak and the Murder of Joanna Yeates

[jixy]

What did the contents of her stomach show???? 

Wasn't making scenario's with no proof, just a mere suggestion....

it wasnt your comment lol but anyway

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it wasnt your comment lol but anyway

Ok.... 

[jixy]

hasty comments also known as not agreeing with you Leonora ok

[Leonora]

What did the contents of her stomach show???? 

Wasn't making scenario's with no proof, just a mere suggestion....

We don't know what the analysis of the contents of her stomach and intestines showed, because the expert witness from Glasgow who carried out the analysis did not actually tell the court. She explained that she was trying to find out when Joanna had suffered "trauma", i.e., died. She told the court that Joanna's last meal had been cheesy chips and Cola. They already knew that, because her boyfriend had already testified to the lunch Joanna had eaten that day. The expert witness did not bother to tell the court that the chips and Cola would have disappeared from the victim's digestive system long before she even left the Bristol Ram pub. The only reason the expart witness could claim that it was Joanna's "last meal" was because the court had heard Counsel for the Prosecution tell them that the defendant had killed her and stolen the uneaten pizza. Some expert witness, wouldn't you say?

There is evidence that this grisly evidence was removed from the body and submitted to the Scottish expert on 17th January, and her "findings" - that Joanna did not eat the pizza - reported without attribution in the press the day before Vincent Tabak's arrest. If Joanna had died more than 9 hours after eating the pizza, of course, it would be impossible to tell from an analysis of her digestive system. In my opinion this unhelpful gastroarcheologist was engaged to prevent the independent pathologist who would be hired by Vincent Tabak's first set of lawyers from being able to perform his own analysis and identifying traces of pizza, or even unexpected delights such as bacon and egg, champagne and caviar.

[PaultheRed]

Why is it that your opinions are valued but other peoples opinions are simply dismissed , the post mortem results prove she didn't eat the pizza and nothing else matters VT did as he said so himself .
 

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We don't know what the analysis of the contents of her stomach and intestines showed, because the expert witness from Glasgow who carried out the analysis did not actually tell the court. She explained that she was trying to find out when Joanna had suffered "trauma", i.e., died. She told the court that Joanna's last meal had been cheesy chips and Cola. They already knew that, because her boyfriend had already testified to the lunch Joanna had eaten that day. The expert witness did not bother to tell the court that the chips and Cola would have disappeared from the victim's digestive system long before she even left the Bristol Ram pub. The only reason the expart witness could claim that it was Joanna's "last meal" was because the court had heard Counsel for the Prosecution tell them that the defendant had killed her and stolen the uneaten pizza. Some expert witness, wouldn't you say?

There is evidence that this grisly evidence was removed from the body and submitted to the Scottish expert on 17th January, and her "findings" - that Joanna did not eat the pizza - reported without attribution in the press the day before Vincent Tabak's arrest. If Joanna had died more than 9 hours after eating the pizza, of course, it would be impossible to tell from an analysis of her digestive system. In my opinion this unhelpful gastroarcheologist was engaged to prevent the independent pathologist who would be hired by Vincent Tabak's first set of lawyers from being able to perform his own analysis and identifying traces of pizza, or even unexpected delights such as bacon and egg, champagne and caviar.

50% of stomach contents emptied   2.5 to 3 hours
Total emptying of the stomach   4 to 5 hours
50% emptying of the small intestine   2.5 to 3 hours
Transit through the colon   30 to 40 hours

 Agreed .... cheesy chips could not have been in her stomach....

And if Body fluids have never been mentioned in regards to the Autopsy... would that suggest:

(A):... She was alive longer ...

(B):.. Someone cleaned her and then re-dressed her?????

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Why is it that your opinions are valued but other peoples opinions are simply dismissed , the post mortem results prove she didn't eat the pizza and nothing else matters VT did as he said so himself .

And so did Greg.... he had one from the freezer, which begs the question why did she purchase one??

[PaultheRed]

Maybe she purchased it for the day after or simply because she fancied a pizza  , an impulse buy or even as a treat but what does it matter why she bought a pizza ? 

[mrswah]

VT said that he had pizza for supper. He didn't say he ate the one Jo bought; in fact, he said in court that he disposed of it.

And, yes, Greg also had pizza for supper-----but not the one Jo bought either.


What does this prove?  Absolutely nothing, except that some young men , after a long day, can't be bothered to cook!!

On a more serious note, I, too am puzzled as to why Jo's stomach contents were sent to Glasgow.

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Maybe she purchased it for the day after or simply because she fancied a pizza  , an impulse buy or even as a treat but what does it matter why she bought a pizza ?

Simply because it seems to play a big part in this crime... Having Pizza in the house already, just made me wonder why she would purchase another one...

[mrswah]

If Joanna had died more than 9 hours after eating the pizza, of course, it would be impossible to tell from an analysis of her digestive system.

Absolutely.  For example:

She could have eaten the pizza on the Friday night, and died nine hours later.  The test results would have been the same.

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VT said that he had pizza for supper. He didn't say he ate the one Jo bought; in fact, he said in court that he disposed of it.

And, yes, Greg also had pizza for supper-----but not the one Jo bought either.


What does this prove?  Absolutely nothing, except that some young men , after a long day, can't be bothered to cook!!

On a more serious note, I, too am puzzled as to why Jo's stomach contents were sent to Glasgow.

The only reason I can think of if Glasgow has some sort of specialist centre...

Joanna Yeates was off work before she was killed... we still do not know the reason why!!


what was the person called who did the tests on her stomach contents??

[Leonora]

hasty comments also known as not agreeing with you Leonora ok

In the few instances where I express opinions, I have tried to preface them with the remark "In my opinion..." Most of my posts are longer than they really need to be, so that no one can accuse me of jumping to unsubstantiated or wild conclusions. I would LOVE to be able to post wild speculation, such as that Joanna was the victim of one of the delivery men who delivered her bed but turned out to be a fanatical supporter of a rival football team from the one she supported. However, since I have been VERY restrained on this thread, I can only conclude that you have some kind of AGENDA in posting such remarks as this one on this forum. I would really like you to explain your agenda. Is it because you cannot resist belittling a defenceless woman poster?

[Leonora]

The only reason I can think of if Glasgow has some sort of specialist centre...

Joanna Yeates was off work before she was killed... we still do not know the reason why!!

what was the person called who did the tests on her stomach contents??

Dr. Jennifer Miller of Northlight Heritage.

The fact that there was a already pizza in the freezer at home, which her boyfriend claims he ate on the Sunday, suggests that Joanna's last-minute purchase of a Tesco pizza was part of an agreement to eat together at a friend's home, not at 44 Canynge Road. I cannot exaggerate the importance of how hungry she would have been by this time, and how much this obvious factor was disregarded in the accounts of her Friday evening.

It would certainly help to have reliable medical information about why Joanna had been off work and why she suffered from bad headaches.

[Leonora]

Leonora... What we need to establish is at what Time/Date did the CPS lady start the planned arrest of Dr Vincent Tabak???

Once we establish this... evidence brought to the forefront can then possibly be dismissed.... As you don't need to inform the public anymore in relation to what Joanna Yeates did or didn't do!!!

So for instance if it was soon after he returned from Holland say... 3rd January 2011... The sock was then just a distraction... Because the Policeman had always said before he revealed information about the sock, that Joanna Yeates was Fully Clothed..

Even when one member of the press ask if she was missing anything at all... they suggested a shoe....

No replied the Policeman...she was Fully Clothed!!!

Dear oh dear.

The CPS lady started planning the arrest of Vincent Tabak BEFORE Christmas day. This has to be the case, because Joanna's body was alleged to be found lying beneath snow that had fallen after Vincent Tabak collected his girlfriend from the coach after her works party. We can be sure that this was untrue, since so many pumping appliances and a substantial crane were needed to recover the body - as can be seen in one of the photos in this newspaper report:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1341676/Missing-architect-Joanna-Yeates-We-assume-shes-dead--lives-gone-say-parents.html
I have no idea how early on the police knew that Joanna was dead, nor when they really learnt where she had been deposited, but there is evidence that it was on the Wednesday, when the landlord signed his 2nd witness statement and the boyfriend was said to be cleared of suspicion of involvement in her disappearence.

I don't presume to know what Joanna did or did not do, except where there is evidence to suggest it.