I was trying to understand ... How the Police seemed to spend days searching CJ's Flat....
Now a search warrant as far as I am aware, pertains to certain Items that are on the search warrant in relation to a particular crime...
I believe I am correct in thinking, that If Items are on show and are seen, then they can also take said items as part of the warrant....
Which brings me back to DCI Phil Jones.... And also my belief, that they searched Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat/ Or Maybe it's Joanna yeates Flat DCI Phil Jones is referring too...
Major Crime always comes under complex crime as far as I can tell...
There was still ongoing forensic examination work which was being undertaken. In particular, there were a pair of trainers which we found in Mr Jefferies' house which were hidden underneath a kitchen unit behind a kickboard. Those trainers had some -- had a blood spot on them. That was initially analysed and because of a sensitive forensic technique which they had to use, eventually a DNA profile was found and Mr Jefferies could be eliminatedhttp://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=8057.msg411592#msg411592
Well... They wouldn't have had a warrant to search CJ's kitchen units to that extent.... they were not looking for places to hide Drugs or places to hide knives... And Joanna Yeates couldn't possibly have been hidden there...
Did they have a warrant to rip CJ's flat apart at the seams ???? I doubt it...
We are then left with.. Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat or Joanna Yeates flat....
If they didn't have a warrant already to search Dr Vincent Tabak's flat as they hadn't arrested him at this point, it only leaves Joanna Yeates Flat... So did they find the trainers under Joanna Yeates kitchen Unit behind the Kickboard???
I want to look at DCI Phil Jones Statement to The Leveson:...
Mr Philip Jones
Okay. When Vincent Tabak was interviewed, he gave "no comment" in interview. It was only a very small area around a mobile phone which he was willing to talk about. One of the topics in that interview concerned Mr Jefferies, to which he declined -- he again made no comment. Mr Jefferies was still a suspect in the investigation. There was still ongoing forensic examination work which was being undertaken. In particular, there were a pair of trainers which we found in Mr Jefferies' house which were hidden underneath a kitchen unit behind a kickboard. Those trainers had some -- had a blood spot on them. That was initially analysed and because of a sensitive forensic technique which they had to use, eventually a DNA profile was found and Mr Jefferies could be eliminated. So when the forensic lines of inquiry were completed, he was fully eliminated from the investigation, which is then when he was released from his bail without charge.
This statement from DCI Phil Jones flies in the face of Lydnsey Lennen saying they turned everything around in 48 hours... So these trainers should have been turned around in 48 hours... Did they test all of these items they collected ???? Because it takes them weeks to collect everything ...
DCI Phil Jones just says house ... and implies that it was CJ.... But House includes 3 flats belonging to CJ...
Now I am going back to say that the Trainers were located in Dr Vincent Tabak's flat...
We have to remember that the Police thought that Dr Vincent Tabak and CJ had colluded.... Now to check for blood on these trainers... would not take until march... (IMO).. And if that was the real reason they say they let CJ go and Bail was lifted... That should have been a lot sooner (IMO)...
Did the trainers come from Dr Vincent Tabaks flat ??? I'll say NO... because they would have been introduced as evidence in court...
So they had to come from Joanna Yeates flat....
DCI Phil Jones is either admitting one of two things in that statement....
(A): That they suspected CJ of being a Serial Killer
(B): CJ had colluded with Dr Vincent Tabak....
(C): They knew there was someone else who was the killer....
I'll explain.... Hear we have a bit of an apology to CJ along time after he's been released on bail... CJ has to fight tooth and nail for this apology....
"This is an unusual step to take but these were exceptional circumstances. I had a private meeting with Mr Jefferies on Friday and hope to use his experience to inform our serious crime investigations in the future."
So Serious Crime Investigations ....
Who should attend
Candidates MUST;
Be of substantive Detective Inspector rank or above or agency/Police Staff equivalent, or awaiting promotion to that rank.
Have access to the investigation of serious and complex crime.
Be PIP Level 2 competent.
Have completed in-force diversity & leadership training.
Serious Crime always come under the Complex Crime umbrella ...
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/ukpga/2015/9/contents/enactedSo why was 'The Serious Crime Unit involved wiht The Joanna Yeates investigation ????
Back to the trainers.... Where did they secure the trainers from ....???
It cannot have been from Joanna Yeates flat... according to the Forensic Photo's we have come to know ... I say this because.. there is NO Forensic Powder on The Kickboard of the Sink Unit in Joanna Yeates Flat....
So we are left with Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat...
Mr Philip Jones
Okay. When Vincent Tabak was interviewed, he gave "no comment" in interview. It was only a very small area around a mobile phone which he was willing to talk about. One of the topics in that interview concerned Mr Jefferies, to which he declined -- he again made no comment. Mr Jefferies was still a suspect in the investigation. There was still ongoing forensic examination work which was being undertaken.In particular, there were a pair of trainers which we found in Mr Jefferies' house which were hidden underneath a kitchen unit behind a kickboard.
So DCI Phil Jones is talking about there initial Forensic search I believe... Because he would have said Dr Vincent Tabak's flat... Now... Did they search Dr Vincent Tabak's flat at the same time they were looking at CJ's Flat??? without said warrant for Dr Vincent Tabak's flat....
Because the Forensic Pictures tell us it wasn't Joanna Yeates Flat... !!
Or.... Is it Joanna Yeates Flat and they knew who's profile it was ??? There's not a lot of options left..... (IMO)...
(I have attached image of Kickboards in Joanna Yeates Flat...)
http://www.college.police.uk/What-we-do/Learning/Professional-Training/Investigation/Pages/Management-of-Serious-Crime-Investigations.aspxhttp://leveson.sayit.mysociety.org/hearing-27-march-2012/mr-philip-joneshttps://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2013/sep/16/joanna-yeates-police-apologise-christopher-jefferies