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Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #915 on: May 27, 2016, 10:25:45 PM »
The point you want to ignore is that these apartments seem to be a very low fire risk
Every fireman in the world who has seen the victims of fires in concrete buildings would disagree with you Davel.

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #916 on: May 27, 2016, 10:38:42 PM »
Every fireman in the world who has seen the victims of fires in concrete buildings would disagree with you Davel.

Davel just wants to point out, a fire could never kill any of those kids, a fall onto a sharp object or surface coukdnt kill a kid, a fall over a balcony or stairs couldnt kill a knetc etc

All designed to promote nothing could possibly have happened in the parents absence



IN sharon osbournes words, insane

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #917 on: May 27, 2016, 10:43:45 PM »
Every fireman in the world who has seen the victims of fires in concrete buildings would disagree with you Davel.

Do you have any figures for the number of fires in Luz holiday apartments over the last 10 years please, Pegasus?

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #918 on: May 27, 2016, 10:44:35 PM »
Davel just wants to point out, a fire could never kill any of those kids, a fall onto a sharp object or surface coukdnt kill a kid, a fall over a balcony or stairs couldnt kill a knetc etc

All designed to promote nothing could possibly have happened in the parents absence



IN sharon osbournes words, insane

Maybe Gerry is really Clark Kent...
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #919 on: May 27, 2016, 10:47:55 PM »
Every fireman in the world who has seen the victims of fires in concrete buildings would disagree with you Davel.

perhaps we could have the opinion of a real fireman who I am sure would agree the apartments were not a fire risk

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #920 on: May 27, 2016, 10:54:50 PM »
perhaps we could have the opinion of a real fireman who I am sure would agree the apartments were not a fire risk

Perhaps you can give your considered opinion why they are not a fire risk.
Is one side of the combustion triangle missing?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #921 on: May 27, 2016, 10:57:09 PM »
Perhaps you can give your considered opinion why they are not a fire risk.
Is one side of the combustion triangle missing?

concrete doesn't burn

Offline slartibartfast

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #922 on: May 27, 2016, 11:01:23 PM »
concrete doesn't burn

I'm glad the twin towers didn't burn.
“Reasoning will never make a Man correct an ill Opinion, which by Reasoning he never acquired”.

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #923 on: May 27, 2016, 11:01:54 PM »
Maybe Gerry is really Clark Kent...

Well yes never denied it but kate boasted how quickly she could sprint...why sprint when 30 mns or more or more have lapsed


Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #924 on: May 27, 2016, 11:03:01 PM »
I'm glad the twin towers didn't burn.

the steel burnt in the twin towers...were there any low flying aircraft around 5a

Concrete does not burn, but somewhere around 1200 degrees it will produce steam to become calcium oxide.

Ca(OH)2 -> CaO + H2O

Calcium oxide is a white powder which melts at nearly 3000 C
« Last Edit: May 27, 2016, 11:05:26 PM by davel »

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #925 on: May 27, 2016, 11:07:25 PM »
The patio door was left open
Davel thinks there was no possibility a groggy chikd coukd go out and fall over the balcony or downthe stairs

Same with front door, unlocked, easy fir a toddler to open and go wonderng


Unsafe measures davel dear by the parents, totally irresponsible

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #926 on: May 27, 2016, 11:09:22 PM »
The patio door was left open
Davel thinks there was no possibility a groggy chikd coukd go out and fall over the balcony or downthe stairs

Same with front door, unlocked, easy fir a toddler to open and go wonderng


Unsafe measures davel dear by the parents, totally irresponsible

not me...the archiving report felt maddie could not have physically left the apartment...read it...in the morning

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #927 on: May 27, 2016, 11:10:46 PM »
concrete doesn't burn

True because concrete is fully oxidised but heat of burning contents is sufficient to reduce the structural strength to the point of collapse. Differences in the coefficients of thermal expansion between the shit and the hairpins cause collapse.
Then when the contents are burning there will be a depletion of oxygen which will be replaced causing drafts.........
Now you did S level physics you should be able to work it it all out from there.
So again which side of the combustion triangle is missing?
"Navigating the difference between weird but normal grief and truly suspicious behaviour is the key for any detective worth his salt.". ….Sarah Bailey

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #928 on: May 27, 2016, 11:13:10 PM »
True because concrete is fully oxidised but heat of burning contents is sufficient to reduce the structural strength to the point of collapse. Differences in the coefficients of thermal expansion between the shit and the hairpins cause collapse.
Then when the contents are burning there will be a depletion of oxygen which will be replaced causing drafts.........
Now you did S level physics you should be able to work it it all out from there.
So again which side of the combustion triangle is missing?

and what temperature is required for this to take place. In the twin towers their was aircraft fuel...what fuel would be present in the apartment to reach the required temp

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #929 on: May 27, 2016, 11:38:05 PM »
Contents burn Davel.