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Offline jassi

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #885 on: November 04, 2013, 08:45:11 PM »
what evidence is there that exton was mi5

Just google his name, though no doubt you won't want to accept any of the entries.
I believe everything. And l believe nothing.
I suspect everyone. And l suspect no one.
I gather the facts, examine the clues... and before   you know it, the case is solved!"

Or maybe not -

OG have been pushed out by the Germans who have reserved all the deck chairs for the foreseeable future

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #886 on: November 04, 2013, 08:56:04 PM »
Just google his name, though no doubt you won't want to accept any of the entries.

I don't count morais and the like as legitimate sources..the only references seem to be anti McCann blogs..nothing independent ...yet there are independent reports of his police career///and of course his shoplifting episode

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #887 on: November 04, 2013, 09:11:53 PM »
now what would a superspy be doing getting caught shoplifting AND accepting police caution

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #888 on: November 04, 2013, 09:12:49 PM »
Sounds a bit more Jonny English than James Bond

Offline Apostate

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #889 on: November 04, 2013, 09:20:25 PM »
Over a week and still no denial. Yep it's all true.

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #890 on: November 04, 2013, 09:24:14 PM »
Over a week and still no denial. Yep it's all true.

 yes its all true.. a bit like Amarals book...a whole year and no denial

Offline Kazcutt

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #891 on: November 04, 2013, 09:26:24 PM »
I think the efits could not be shown until the case is reopened

Did Portugal reopen the case before or after the crimewatch programme ?

Portugals law is so complex and has so many rules regarding information .i remember the mccanns not being allowed to say jack regarding the case and a lot of people slating them for not talking .

The mccanns were not allowed to do anything in Portugal while case was shelved ,private investigators were not allowed to investigate the case either I think ,maybe they broke the rules getting the efit done from mr smith.
Some deal has probably been done to release the efit now and not charge anyone for them ?..
« Last Edit: November 04, 2013, 09:34:09 PM by Kazcutt »

Redblossom

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #892 on: November 04, 2013, 09:44:25 PM »
I think the efits could not be shown until the case is reopened

Did Portugal reopen the case before or after the crimewatch programme ?

Portugals law is so complex and has so many rules regarding information .i remember the mccanns not being allowed to say jack regarding the case and a lot of people slating them for not talking .

The mccanns were not allowed to do anything in Portugal while case was shelved ,private investigators were not allowed to investigate the case either I think ,maybe they broke the rules getting the efit done from mr smith.
Some deal has probably been done to release the efit now and not charge anyone for them ?..

They released two efits before the case was shelved and two after, nothing stopped them then

icabodcrane

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #893 on: November 04, 2013, 09:49:16 PM »
I think the efits could not be shown until the case is reopened

Did Portugal reopen the case before or after the crimewatch programme ?

Portugals law is so complex and has so many rules regarding information .i remember the mccanns not being allowed to say jack regarding the case and a lot of people slating them for not talking .

The mccanns were not allowed to do anything in Portugal while case was shelved ,private investigators were not allowed to investigate the case either I think ,maybe they broke the rules getting the efit done from mr smith.
Some deal has probably been done to release the efit now and not charge anyone for them ?..

What  'special rule'  do you think applied to the Smithman e fit that did not   apply to all the other e fits shown on the McCanns'  official website,  and in Kate's book  ?   

Offline Kazcutt

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #894 on: November 04, 2013, 09:50:47 PM »
They released two efits before the case was shelved and two after, nothing stopped them then

2 from the  files  which were public ?

The other two were done while they were not supposed to be investigating ?

« Last Edit: November 04, 2013, 09:52:48 PM by Kazcutt »

Offline Kazcutt

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #895 on: November 04, 2013, 09:54:40 PM »
What  'special rule'  do you think applied to the Smithman e fit that did not   apply to all the other e fits shown on the McCanns'  official website,  and in Kate's book  ?

They were not allowed by law to investigate in Portugal ,the smith sighting efits were done while they should not have been ?? Martin smith must have been spoken to by he mccanns investigators while the case was open ??

Redblossom

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #896 on: November 04, 2013, 09:55:21 PM »
2 from the  files  which were public ?

The other two were done while they were not supposed to be investigating ?

No Kaz, none of the mccann released efits were from the files......they were all commissioned by their own sketch artists PIs what have you

Offline Kazcutt

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #897 on: November 04, 2013, 09:57:29 PM »
No Kaz, none of the mccann released efits were from the files......they were all commissioned by their own sketch artists PIs what have you

I'll have to go over the  press again I know the guy with the coller length hair is on the files

Ok ta

Redblossom

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Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #898 on: November 04, 2013, 10:02:46 PM »
I'll have to go over the  press again I know the guy with the coller length hair is on the files

Ok ta

Both Tannerman and Cooperman are in the files but were nothing to do with the Pj, maybe I misunderstood your point, here you go


http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/POWERPOINT.htm

Offline Kazcutt

Re: Sunday Times claim that Smith e-fits had been suppressed for 5 years.
« Reply #899 on: November 04, 2013, 10:12:48 PM »

The McCanns were accused of using diversion tactics 
By Caroline Gammell in Praia da Luz1:25PM BST 25 Sep 2007
Kate and Gerry McCann provoked the fury of the Portuguese authorities after it was revealed they had hired private investigators to help find their daughter Madeleine.

In full: The Madeleine McCann case
The couple were accused by police of employing "diversion tactics".
A senior judge said their actions could prompt charges of obstruction of justice in the hunt for the missing four-year-old who has not been seen since May 3.
Under Portuguese law, it is illegal to carry out independent inquiries into a case while a police investigation is ongoing. But it emerged this week that Mr and Mrs McCann hired investigators from Control Risks Group - who specialise in kidnap, hostage and crisis management - at the end of May.
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A source close to the couple's legal team insisted they were only working in an advisory role and were not on the ground in Portugal.
But the company – which employs ex-SAS and military personnel – is thought to be focusing on Spain and Morocco, where three sightings of a little blonde girl have now been reported.
In Portugal, figures from both the police and judicial arenas vented their anger about the move.
Antonio Martins, president of the National Association of Portuguese Judges, told the newspaper 24 Horas: "It is still up to the state to carry out criminal investigation. That kind of activity has no legal standing.
"Anything that results from private investigation has no substance."
Mr Martins said the private detectives and even the McCanns themselves could be accused of "obstruction of justice".
Carlos Anjos, the head of Portugal's criminal police federation, added: "This can only be another diversion tactic from the McCanns. It is nothing but folklore.
"Portugal does not have legislation in this area. Private detectives who intervene in criminal cases cannot exist.
"The law only tolerates private detectives who gather information and only about matters of the private lives of certain people like extramarital relationships."
A separate police source warned that the involvement of investigators may not only be illegal but could have a detrimental effect on the inquiry.
The high ranking official told newspaper Correio da Manha: "If private investigators come here they will be running a serious risk of being arrested."