Invoking Article 50

[Alice Purjorick]

The single farm payment hasn't been lost, it will simply have a different name in 2019.

As to whether the UK will be better off or not, taking back control of our borders and keeping the worlds waifs and strays out trumps any short term loss the country might sustain.

You mean we take back control of the bit that deals with 27 countries? We already had control of the remaining 169.

You'll never see a farmer on a bike 

[Angelo222]

You mean we take back control of the bit that deals with 27 countries? We already had control of the remaining 169.

You'll never see a farmer on a bike 

Tis the farmers who have always fed this country through two world wars, not the bankers.  I know where my sympathies lie, bike or no bike.

[Alice Purjorick]

Tis the farmers who have always fed this country through two world wars, not the bankers.  I know where my sympathies lie, bike or no bike.

I rather suspect the efforts of The Royal Navy and Merchant Marine had more to do with us not starving to death.
We have not been self sufficient in foodstuffs since the early 19th century.

[Miss Taken Identity]

I rather suspect the efforts of The Royal Navy and Merchant Marine had more to do with us not starving to death.
We have not been self sufficient in foodstuffs since the early 19th century.

Indeed Alice.  However, it is not beyond us to try and achieve at least self sufficiency in some areas. we do have freezers now and we can all workout how to manage  herbs and some veg in our gardens, I suspect Greggs will petition the government to have their sausgage rolls  given special status. Some are already struggling in this country to provide food for families.

[stephen25000]

'Theresa May under fire for secret talk of Brexit fears

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/oct/26/theresa-may-under-fire-following-leaked-brexit-recording


...and apparently, she has given Boris a good telling off again.


'MAY FLAYS BOJO Boris Johnson and Theresa May clash for THIRD time in weeks as the PM tells ranting Foreign Secretary to ‘shut up’ '

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/2057224/boris-johnson-and-theresa-may-clash-for-third-time-in-weeks-as-the-pm-tells-ranting-foreign-secretary-to-shut-up/

[stephen25000]

The Deputy Director of Nissan UK, has just been on Sky, stating that production in the UK will continue.

When pressed, several times, whether the Government has given financial sweeteners to keep Nissan in the UK, he wouldn't answer.

Now I thought Tory governments, by and large ,  let market forces rule.

The DD did however the situation is ongoing, which means they could change their minds when Brexit comes into play.

[John]

The Deputy Director of Nissan UK, has just been on Sky, stating that production in the UK will continue.

When pressed, several times, whether the Government has given financial sweeteners to keep Nissan in the UK, he wouldn't answer.

Now I thought Tory governments, by and large ,  let market forces rule.

The DD did however the situation is ongoing, which means they could change their minds when Brexit comes into play.

A great boost for Brexit when such a large employer can see such a bright future ahead for UK car production. Its only a pity our own home grown manufacturers couldn't produce a product to the same standard thus negating the need for the Japanese to be here in the first place.

[John]

I rather suspect the efforts of The Royal Navy and Merchant Marine had more to do with us not starving to death.
We have not been self sufficient in foodstuffs since the early 19th century.

It was a joint effort and as more and more supply ships were sunk by German submarines the need to produce more food at home resulted in the Woman's Land Army.

[stephen25000]

A great boost for Brexit when such a large employer can see such a bright future ahead for UK car production. Its only a pity our own home grown manufacturers couldn't produce a product to the same standard thus negating the need for the Japanese to be here in the first place.

Haven't you got the message John.

It will involve the Government, therefore the tax payer subsidising one company, and if one has it, so will others.

The deal was done with Nissan to try and shore off companies moving abroad. Make no mistake, that will happen as soon as people realize the mistake brexit is.

[stephen25000]

It was a joint effort and as more and more supply ships were sunk by German submarines the need to produce more food at home resulted in the Woman's Land Army.

This isn't a wartime situation.

[Alfie]

It was a joint effort and as more and more supply ships were sunk by German submarines the need to produce more food at home resulted in the Woman's Land Army.

Something tells me you and your fellow Brexiteers would love to go back to the days of make do and mend, scrimping and saving, ration books and women mobilized into the fields to pick potatoes.

[stephen25000]

The Government deal with Nissan as regards Brexit, is that Nissan won't have to incur the 10% trade tariff.

So who picks it up, the tax payer of course.

Other car companies will of course want the same deal, as will any other companies exporting post Brexit.

Other companies have already asked for this Brexit deal as well.

So what does Brexit mean ?

Brexit means B.S. and the tax payer fronting the bill.

[John]

Northern Ireland High Court rejects challenge to Prime Minister's power to trigger Brexit negotiations.

A landmark legal challenge against Brexit has been rejected at the High Court in Belfast. Two separate proceedings, one by a cross-party group of MLAs and another from victims' campaigner, Raymond McCord, were heard earlier this month.

Mr Justice Maguire ruled there was nothing in the 1998 Good Friday Agreement to prevent the government triggering Article 50 - the formal legal process for leaving the EU. The UK government welcomed the ruling.

The challenge by politicians from Sinn Féin, the Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP), the Alliance Party and the Green Party suggested the UK government could not trigger Article 50 without a parliamentary vote. They said the Brexit decision should be examined and voted on by parliament or, failing that, by the Northern Ireland Assembly. They have indicated they intend to appeal against the decision at the Supreme Court, and that this could be heard as early as December.

Mr McCord, whose son was murdered by loyalist paramilitaries and who now campaigns for victims of violence during Northern Ireland's Troubles, brought the other legal bid. His legal challenge came amid worries that the Brexit vote could mean an end to EU funding for peace projects that help Troubles victims in Northern Ireland. His lawyer argued that the Good Friday peace agreement meant Westminster had given sovereignty of Northern Ireland over to its people, and that leaving the EU would have a "catastrophic effect" for the peace process. Major constitutional changes such as leaving the EU could not therefore be imposed by a Westminster government, Mr McCord's barrister said.

But Mr Justice Maguire ruled that Prerogative Power could still be used, arguing that triggering Article 50 is merely the start of a legislative process in which acts of parliament will be necessary. "While the wind of change may be about to blow, the precise direction in which it will blows cannot be determined," he said.

He concluded that discussing the use of Prerogative Power to enact the EU referendum result was not suitable for a judicial review.
Westminster watching. It had also been argued that the Good Friday Agreement gave the power of sovereignty to the people of Northern Ireland and that the Westminster government could not therefore make Northern Ireland leave the EU. But Mr Justice Maguire rejected this argument as well, saying he could not see anything in the agreement or the relevant legislation that confirmed the view of the applicant. Thus all the issues raised by the applicants were rejected by the court.

Welcoming the ruling, a government spokesman said: "As we have always made clear, we stand by our commitments under the Belfast Agreement and the outcome of the EU referendum doesn't change this. The case has been closely watched by Westminster, especially as similar hearings in the High Court in London are due for judgement in the near future.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-37796836

[John]

Something tells me you and your fellow Brexiteers would love to go back to the days of make do and mend, scrimping and saving, ration books and women mobilized into the fields to pick potatoes.

What a ridiculous suggestion.   

[John]

The Government deal with Nissan as regards Brexit, is that Nissan won't have to incur the 10% trade tariff.

So who picks it up, the tax payer of course.

Other car companies will of course want the same deal, as will any other companies exporting post Brexit.

Other companies have already asked for this Brexit deal as well.

So what does Brexit mean ?

Brexit means B.S. and the tax payer fronting the bill.

There won't be any trade tariff, we import far more motor vehicles from Europe than we export...it isn't rocket science!