Invoking Article 50

[Miss Taken Identity]

Your posts seem to tarnish anyone coming to this country.

The reality is, there are endemic s..mbags in this country, as well as some trying to come here from abroad, or already here, and that is true for many other countries as well.

Stephen you can read into my posts what you wish, but please do not feel free to try and rewrite them. I have never tarnished people who come here to live and work legally. I am not anti immigration. I am concerned with open door policy because I see the problems and ill afffects this is having in my village and community, and other communities.  There are negatives to open door policy. We have our own s..m bags here so who wants to import some more?

The threat from Muslim fanatics is very real Stephen- changing the face of the UK and not for the better. So forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasim to welcome such cretins. We don't need to import vile creatures if we already have them here.

[Alfie]

Stephen you can read into my posts what you wish, but please do not feel free to try and rewrite them. I have never tarnished people who come here to live and work legally. I am not anti immigration. I am concerned with open door policy because I see the problems and ill afffects this is having in my village and community, and other communities.  There are negatives to open door policy. We have our own s..m bags here so who wants to import some more?

The threat from Muslim fanatics is very real Stephen- changing the face of the UK and not for the better. So forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasim to welcome such cretins. We don't need to import vile creatures if we already have them here.

How do you decide who is a vile creature and who is not when offering jobs to immigrants or refuge to asylum seekers?  What are your criteria?  Obviously anyone with a criminal record is a no-no but are there any other vile attributes that you feel should be proscribed when deciding who to let in?

[stephen25000]

Stephen you can read into my posts what you wish, but please do not feel free to try and rewrite them. I have never tarnished people who come here to live and work legally. I am not anti immigration. I am concerned with open door policy because I see the problems and ill afffects this is having in my village and community, and other communities.  There are negatives to open door policy. We have our own s..m bags here so who wants to import some more?

The threat from Muslim fanatics is very real Stephen- changing the face of the UK and not for the better. So forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasim to welcome such cretins. We don't need to import vile creatures if we already have them here.

You talk of twisting words, yet that is exactly what you have done in your second paragraph, and one has to ask the reason why you are doing that. Perhaps you can cite where I have said I welcome Muslim fanatics. If you can't, withdraw the comment and apologize.

[Angelo222]

Stephen you can read into my posts what you wish, but please do not feel free to try and rewrite them. I have never tarnished people who come here to live and work legally. I am not anti immigration. I am concerned with open door policy because I see the problems and ill afffects this is having in my village and community, and other communities.  There are negatives to open door policy. We have our own s..m bags here so who wants to import some more?

The threat from Muslim fanatics is very real Stephen- changing the face of the UK and not for the better. So forgive me if I don't share your enthusiasim to welcome such cretins. We don't need to import vile creatures if we already have them here.

Very well said, not only do we have them here already but they are multiplying at a horrendous rate. If I had my way they would all be sent back to the shithole where they originated.  Any immigrant naturalised into British society or given indefinite leave to remain in the UK who commits a criminal act should be deported immediately imo.

[stephen25000]

Very well said, no only do we have them here already but they are multiplying at a horrendous rate.

You have personal experience of that then Angelo ?

[Angelo222]

You have personal experience of that then Angelo ?

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/606926/Number-migrant-babies-born-UK-SOAR-new-record-high

[stephen25000]

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/606926/Number-migrant-babies-born-UK-SOAR-new-record-high

Any figures for the birth rate among chavs ?   

...the Express of course is totally neutral in brexit.


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[Angelo222]

Any figures for the birth rate among chavs ?   

...the Express of course is totally neutral in brexit.


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Statistics are what they are.

[stephen25000]

Statistics are what they are.

You know the old saying Angelo,....

There are lies, damn lies and then there are statistics.

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[Carana]

Very well said, not only do we have them here already but they are multiplying at a horrendous rate. If I had my way they would all be sent back to the shithole where they originated.  Any immigrant naturalised into British society or given indefinite leave to remain in the UK who commits a criminal act should be deported immediately imo.

What level of "crime" do you mean? A speeding offence or more?

Some treaties already exist to enable convicts to appeal to serve the rest of their sentences in their countries of origin.

What do you do with people who have no second nationality?

What do you do with people who commit crimes from countries that would apply the death sentence?


Currently, albeit with exceptions, crimes in many countries are tried in the country in which the offence took place. That includes the numerous UK sex offenderers overseas.
 

[Carana]

Any figures for the birth rate among chavs ?   

...the Express of course is totally neutral in brexit.


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I don't see how that can be significant without demogaphics of the general ageing of the population.

If immigrants are breeding like rabbits and are there simply to scrounge benefits, that's one thing (to be verified). However, if the UK indigenous population is ageing / not reproducing to a sustainable level, who pays for old-age pensions?

If ever a significant proportion of the indigenous UK population is scrounging (to be verified), who pays the taxes for their benefits?

No country wants more scroungers than they already have. However, what does this birth rate mean in context?

[Carana]

Fury as deluded Brussels DEMANDS EU nationals in Britain should live by EUROPE’S laws
THE EU is determined to keep European nationals living in Britain firmly under the iron fist of the European Court of Justice even after Brexit is completed, it has been revealed.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/politics/742775/EU-European-Union-Brussels-Britain-Theresa-May-Jean-Claude-Juncker-politics?utm_source=traffic.outbrain&utm_medium=traffic.outbrain&utm_term=traffic.outbrain&utm_content=traffic.outbrain&utm_campaign=traffic.outbrain


Erm, what about all the UK citizens currently living in mainland Europe?

What's the solution? Everyone should be sent back to where they were born? Or not even the country of birth?

Who is going to deal with all this?

[Alice Purjorick]

So the Supreme Court say there must be an Act of Parliament to trigger Article 50.
I bet T.M already has such bill in her handbag.

[stephen25000]

So the Supreme Court say there must be an Act of Parliament to trigger Article 50.
I bet T.M already has such bill in her handbag.

Is that the £900 handbag, to go along with her trousers.

[John]

Interesting that the Supreme Court makes simple majority verdicts.  The Government is lucky that they maintain a comfortable majority in Parliament, consider what could have happened had EU supporters held the majority.  Would Parliament really defy the majority wishes of the electorate?

What the court said:

Reading out the judgement, Supreme Court President Lord Neuberger said: "By a majority of eight to three, the Supreme Court today rules that the government cannot trigger Article 50 without an act of Parliament authorising it to do so."
He added: "Withdrawal effects a fundamental change by cutting off the source of EU law, as well as changing legal rights.
"The UK's constitutional arrangements require such changes to be clearly authorised by Parliament."
The court also rejected, unanimously, arguments that the Scottish Parliament, Welsh Assembly and Northern Ireland Assembly should get to vote on Article 50 before it is triggered.
Lord Neuberger said: "Relations with the EU are a matter for the UK government."

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38720320