Author Topic: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?  (Read 414128 times)

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Offline Benice

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1245 on: July 16, 2015, 01:32:38 AM »
I don't know exact reason why 5A was chosen.
Why was 5G chosen? Why was 5L chosen? Why was 4A chosen?
BTW they all have a waist height window, even on 1st and 2nd floor.

The UK police knew why 5A was chosen.  According to them it was a burglar's paradise ( or words to that effect).  The same advantages offered by 5A to potential burglars would also apply to potential abductors.

The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline pegasus

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1246 on: July 16, 2015, 01:34:06 AM »
When the window was opened. Hopefully somebody left a clue but no glove marks. You have witnesses walking through that car park and did anybody see the shutters raised?  Show me the statements where others said they saw the shutters raised and at what time?
In your theory was the shutter first opened before the 7 adults rushed from restaurant toward 5A?  Or after?

Offline mercury

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1247 on: July 16, 2015, 01:40:09 AM »
The UK police knew why 5A was chosen.  According to them it was a burglar's paradise ( or words to that effect).  The same advantages offered by 5A to potential burglars would also apply to potential abductors.
What  a load of absolute tosh

Offline Benice

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1248 on: July 16, 2015, 01:42:03 AM »
What  a load of absolute tosh

Why?
The notion that innocence prevails over guilt – when there is no evidence to the contrary – is what separates civilization from barbarism.    Unfortunately, there are remains of barbarism among us.    Until very recently, it headed the PJ in Portimão. I hope he was the last one.
                                               Henrique Monteiro, chief editor, Expresso, Portugal

Offline pegasus

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1249 on: July 16, 2015, 02:02:49 AM »
What happened a little before 5L burglary?

Offline pegasus

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1250 on: July 16, 2015, 02:08:56 AM »
An apartment identical in layout to 5A in another block had been targeted, so it is probable 5A would be targeted too.
« Last Edit: July 16, 2015, 02:11:21 AM by pegasus »

Offline sadie

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1251 on: July 16, 2015, 02:18:14 AM »
An apartment identical in layout to 5A in another block had been targeted, so it is probable 5A would be targeted too.
A practice run before hand ?

Offline misty

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1252 on: July 16, 2015, 02:49:14 AM »
What happened a little before 5L burglary?
Not sure. Do you mean the introduction of Mark Warner staff to the resort?

Offline pegasus

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1253 on: July 16, 2015, 02:57:09 AM »
Not sure. Do you mean the introduction of Mark Warner staff to the resort?
5L burglary: someone knocked on the front door.
And made some excuse about looking for some other family.
Later the family went out for dinner and the apartment got burgled.
Guess which door the burglar got in through?
(Warning that is a trick question)
« Last Edit: July 16, 2015, 03:15:05 AM by pegasus »

Offline pegasus

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1254 on: July 16, 2015, 03:03:48 AM »
A practice run before hand ?
No I am talking about petty burglaries Sadie.
An identical apartment in a nearby block was burgled when the occupants were out.

Offline misty

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1255 on: July 16, 2015, 03:09:13 AM »
5L burglary: earlier same day someone knocked on the front door.

I thought the Scottish holidaymakers had only just checked into the room, left their luggage & gone straight to dinner?

Offline pegasus

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1256 on: July 16, 2015, 03:17:51 AM »
I thought the Scottish holidaymakers had only just checked into the room, left their luggage & gone straight to dinner?
At 5L (same block as 5A) the door knock was before they went out to dinner.
And the burglar's entry route was ...?
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-leads-pour-in-after-bbc-crimewatch/29660
« Last Edit: July 16, 2015, 03:21:04 AM by pegasus »

Offline mercury

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1257 on: July 16, 2015, 03:27:10 AM »
there is no evidence pegasus that the scene was  not  staged


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Offline pegasus

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1258 on: July 16, 2015, 03:36:20 AM »
there is no evidence pegasus that the scene was  not  staged


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Do you think the open window at 5L was staged too?

Offline misty

Re: Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?
« Reply #1259 on: July 16, 2015, 03:38:21 AM »
At 5L (same block as 5A) the door knock was before they went out to dinner.
And the burglar's entry route was ...?
http://www.theportugalnews.com/news/madeleine-mccann-leads-pour-in-after-bbc-crimewatch/29660
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In the Praia da Luz area, there was one burglary and one attempted burglary in the 17 days before Madeleine went missing. On April 16, a British couple who had just arrived in the resort received a knock on the door from a fair-haired man who claimed to be looking for a German family. Hours later their apartment was burgled.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2460514/Madeleine-McCanns-parents-speak-delight-overwhelming-response-Crimewatch-reconstruction.html#ixzz3g1ABbtf8


Heriberto said the 5L burglary occurred on the 17th, not the 16th.
The Mail report refers to a couple in the resort rather than a family in Block 5.