Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?

[pegasus]

I don't think she was awakened by the raising of the shutter.  When she did wake up she wasn't where she should have been.

So where exactly do you think the child was, while the shutter was being opened?

[jassi]

So where exactly do you think the child was, while the shutter was being opened?

In your opinion, when was the shutter being opened ?

[Brietta]

So where exactly do you think the child was, while the shutter was being opened?

The child was lying on top of the covers.

[Brietta]

In your opinion, when was the shutter being opened ?

While the intruder was in the apartment.

[jassi]

While the intruder was in the apartment.

So shutters opened from inside, rather than outside?

I was actually hoping for a time-scale, but perhaps pegasus can supply that.

[Lace]

The abductor didn't come in through the window in my opinion.

Though one thing has always puzzled me,   one of the arguments that the abductor couldn't have come in through the window was 'there were no footprints on the bed'    well,  I often think about  what those two children said when a stranger got into the bed they were in during the night.   When he got out he was wearing covers on his feet like surgeons  who are going to do an operation.

[Brietta]

So shutters opened from inside, rather than outside?

I was actually hoping for a time-scale, but perhaps pegasus can supply that.

Why on earth would you be hoping for a time scale?  The only person or group of people who have any firm idea of any sort of time-scale are those responsible for carrying out the abduction.

My speculation or anyone else's on the forum doesn't quite cut the mustard as far as that is concerned ... but I think a little patience may may pay dividends towards finding out.

[Brietta]

The abductor didn't come in through the window in my opinion.

Though one thing has always puzzled me,   one of the arguments that the abductor couldn't have come in through the window was 'there were no footprints on the bed'    well,  I often think about  what those two children said when a stranger got into the bed they were in during the night.   When he got out he was wearing covers on his feet like surgeons  who are going to do an operation.

I find it quite extraordinary that because an intruder apparently left no forensic evidence by definition there was no intruder.

Home invaders may not be particularly nice folk but that doesn't necessarily make them imbeciles ... of course they will take precautions.  Even Lizzie Borden stripped off all those years ago, I believe.

[Lace]

I find it quite extraordinary that because an intruder apparently left no forensic evidence by definition there was no intruder.

Home invaders may not be particularly nice folk but that doesn't necessarily make them imbeciles ... of course they will take precautions.  Even Lizzie Borden stripped off all those years ago, I believe.

 Hardened criminals don't leave calling cards do they.

I don't know they could say there were no footprints,  the bed was in a right mess,  expect they were looking for dusty prints from shoes.

[Lace]

Amaral said the abductor couldn't have come in through the front door as it was undamaged and couldn't be picked.

He failed to wonder if they had a key though.

How did the person who abused those children get into the apartments?   Surely Amaral knew about these assaults.

A statement from people who stayed in 5a before the McCann's said that they were irritated by the maid just coming into the apartment,  so they locked the door and put the key in it.   The maid still managed to come in with her key,  how?

[Brietta]

Amaral said the abductor couldn't have come in through the front door as it was undamaged and couldn't be picked.

He failed to wonder if they had a key though.

How did the person who abused those children get into the apartments?   Surely Amaral knew about these assaults.

A statement from people who stayed in 5a before the McCann's said that they were irritated by the maid just coming into the apartment,  so they locked the door and put the key in it.   The maid still managed to come in with her key,  how?

Unfortunately no-one bothered to ask Mr D'Ambrosio about any problems he may have encountered during his residency until the end of April 2008 when he confirmed that during his stay the shutters were fine but he didn't think they locked.  Seems the notion of the possibility of using a key for entry had been totally disregarded.

[stephen25000]

Amaral said the abductor couldn't have come in through the front door as it was undamaged and couldn't be picked.

He failed to wonder if they had a key though.

How did the person who abused those children get into the apartments?   Surely Amaral knew about these assaults.

A statement from people who stayed in 5a before the McCann's said that they were irritated by the maid just coming into the apartment,  so they locked the door and put the key in it.   The maid still managed to come in with her key,  how?

Ask Scotty. 

[G-Unit]

Amaral said the abductor couldn't have come in through the front door as it was undamaged and couldn't be picked.

He failed to wonder if they had a key though.

How did the person who abused those children get into the apartments?   Surely Amaral knew about these assaults.

A statement from people who stayed in 5a before the McCann's said that they were irritated by the maid just coming into the apartment,  so they locked the door and put the key in it.   The maid still managed to come in with her key,  how?

I thought 'villas' were mentioned, not apartments in Praia da Luz?

[Lace]

I thought 'villas' were mentioned, not apartments in Praia da Luz?

You are correct G-Unit,  they were villas not apartments -

Of the 12 cases, two occurred in Praia de Luz — where Madeleine was staying when she disappeared — four in the holiday resort of Carvoeiro and six in the Vale da Parra and Praia da Gale districts west of Albufeira.

There were no signs of forced entry,  so how did this person get into these villas?

[G-Unit]

You are correct G-Unit,  they were villas not apartments -

Of the 12 cases, two occurred in Praia de Luz — where Madeleine was staying when she disappeared — four in the holiday resort of Carvoeiro and six in the Vale da Parra and Praia da Gale districts west of Albufeira.

There were no signs of forced entry,  so how did this person get into these villas?

Not with an Ocean Club key. I haven't seen the details of these cases, have you?