Could an intruder have opened the shutter and climbed in the window?

[Redblossom]

At apartment 5A, Ocean Club:

- Side of the patio door: One adequate print recovered but not matched to known persons.

- Outside of one patio door: Eight inadequate prints were recovered.- Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.- Outside of the external blinds to the children's bedroom: three inadequate prints were recovered.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm

So what happened with; outside of the window,  inside of the shutters & the doorknobs? Not a word mentioned about anyone having examined those...

And your point is? Apart from changing the goalposts? From the original discussion at hand?
 

[Redblossom]

At apartment 5A, Ocean Club:

- Side of the patio door: One adequate print recovered but not matched to known persons.

- Outside of one patio door: Eight inadequate prints were recovered.- Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.- Outside of the external blinds to the children's bedroom: three inadequate prints were recovered.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm

So what happened with; outside of the window,  inside of the shutters & the doorknobs? Not a word mentioned about anyone having examined those...

Translation:

Processos Vol VI

Page 1520

Date: 2007/05/18

Service Information

To: The Coordinator of the Investigation, G. Amaral

From: Assistant Specialist Irene Trovao

Subject: Identification of finger print

I inform you that according to report nº 140/07 there is a single finger print with sufficient value for identification.

It was revealed with Dragon Blood and gathered from the side of the living room window/door of Ocean Club apartment 5 A on 4th May 2007 after the disappearance of the child.

This morning Officer Silva delivered various fingerprints belonging to his officers who were on duty at the apartment on the night of 3 – 4 May 2007.

These were compared to the finger print which was identified as being that of Nelson Filipe Pacheco da Costa of the Lagos GNR.

Signed

[Mrs. B]

Pardon, I thought the thread was about the windows/shutters. The information posted is from the official files & it regards the windows/shutters & the fingerprints found on them.

[DCI]

At apartment 5A, Ocean Club:

- Side of the patio door: One adequate print recovered but not matched to known persons.

- Outside of one patio door: Eight inadequate prints were recovered.- Outside of [the other] patio door: One inadequate print was recovered.- Outside of the external blinds to the children's bedroom: three inadequate prints were recovered.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/FINGERPRINTS.htm

So what happened with; outside of the window,  inside of the shutters & the doorknobs? Not a word mentioned about anyone having examined those...

One print from the patio door was matched to a GNR officer.

[Redblossom]

Pardon, I thought the thread was about the windows/shutters. The information posted is from the official files & it regards the windows/shutters & the fingerprints found on them.

indeed, but you switched the discussion from(non existent unidentified prints on the bedroom window) one thing to another and ignored answers given to you in between to your questions

[Carana]

46.37 – Let’s review: First, the front door and the window were not forced. Second, the window was opened by the mother. Third, it’s impossible for a lone abductor to carry out the child without leaving traces on the beds and on the window.


http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/maddie-truth-of-lie-documentary.html


???

[Mrs. B]

Aww...you only like SOME parts of the files, I take it, not all of it then. Especially not the facts that don't support your accusations. Go figure...

[Redblossom]

46.37 – Let’s review: First, the front door and the window were not forced. Second, the window was opened by the mother. Third, it’s impossible for a lone abductor to carry out the child without leaving traces on the beds and on the window.


http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/maddie-truth-of-lie-documentary.html


???

I suppose that might mean a lone abductor couldnt fly through the window, he would have had to leave a trace on the window and surrounding areas

Edited

[Mrs. B]

46.37 – Let’s review: First, the front door and the window were not forced. Second, the window was opened by the mother. Third, it’s impossible for a lone abductor to carry out the child without leaving traces on the beds and on the window.


http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2009/04/maddie-truth-of-lie-documentary.html

???

Doesn't make any sense at all. I bet the "traces on the window" is a reference to the non-existing lichen they were so fond of in the early days.

Amended

[Redblossom]

Aww...you only like SOME parts of the files, I take it, not all of it then. Especially not the facts that don't support your accusations. Go figure...

never made any accusations, still, you shifted the argument without explaining, and Inever said i dont agree with or dont like any part of the evidence in the files, I discuss it as and when
 

[DCI]

Can you get a more incompetent fingerprint forensic specialist that this?



There's also a pic somwhere of her forensics case, wide open, left on the wall, to all elements.

Might have well have sent Mr Plod and Noddy!

[Redblossom]

Can you get a more incompetent fingerprint forensic specialist that this?



There's also a pic somwhere of her forensics case, wide open, left on the wall, to all elements.

Might have well have sent Mr Plod and Noddy!

Whats incompetent about her dusting for fingerprints?

[Mrs. B]

That's just mind boggling, there she is IN A CRIME SCENE. No gloves, no protective clothing - NOTHING.

[Redblossom]

That's just mind boggling, there she is IN A CRIME SCENE. No gloves, no protective clothing - NOTHING.

So? Shes only dusting the window and shutters, she didnt touch them did she?

[Angelo222]

An abductor would have worn gloves as rightly evidenced by the absence of any unaccounted for prints on the window and the external shutter.  Did Jane Tanner say that the alleged abductor had gloves on per chance??

However I do have serious reservations as to why there were no shoe marks or dirt left on the inside window sill or on the duvet cover on the single bed which was situated just inside the window and over which any intruder would have disturbed???