Brexit has well and truly begun!

[Carana]

So he campaigned for Remain, but admits he doesn't fully understand all the details.  Perhaps we should do away with voting on anything, as we're all so ignorant?

What has become clear is that voting for an MP and letting them make decisions for us has been shown to be unsatisfactory. Most of them had no more knowledge about the issues than we did, but had been happily going along with greater integration nevertheless.

In my opinion a lot of MP's are far more interested in their own careers than they are in the 'good of the country'. Faced with being sacked, will the Conservative remainers chose career or country? That will be interesting.

Interesting remark, but the same is true via the whip system for all parties, isn't it?

[Venturi Swirl]

So he campaigned for Remain, but admits he doesn't fully understand all the details.  Perhaps we should do away with voting on anything, as we're all so ignorant?

What has become clear is that voting for an MP and letting them make decisions for us has been shown to be unsatisfactory. Most of them had no more knowledge about the issues than we did, but had been happily going along with greater integration nevertheless.

In my opinion a lot of MP's are far more interested in their own careers than they are in the 'good of the country'. Faced with being sacked, will the Conservative remainers chose career or country? That will be interesting.

It’s a shame May didn’t threaten to sack all the Tory rebels when she was in charge, IMO.

[Carana]

It’s a shame May didn’t threaten to sack all the Tory rebels when she was in charge, IMO.

What about Cameron's responsibility in all this mess?

[Carana]

If any of the mods are around, I submitted a thread on Operation Yellowhammer, which is still awaiting approval. Ta.

[mrswah]

If any of the mods are around, I submitted a thread on Operation Yellowhammer, which is still awaiting approval. Ta.

Apologies Carana!   Now approved.

[Carana]

Apologies Carana!   Now approved.

Cheers.

[Venturi Swirl]

I’ve run out of popcorn. 

[Venturi Swirl]

Haha, David Aaronovitch:

“It comes down to this: the only real choice in the real world is Johnson or Corbyn, or no-deal or Corbyn. You may want a quiet, decent life but you’re going to have to choose between catching leprosy or catching rabies. There is no other option”

Personally if I had to choose it would be leprosy. 

[Carana]

"Resignations to chase headlines won't change the fact that people want Brexit done so that government can deliver on the domestic priorities people care about like more police, new hospitals and great schools."
https://news.sky.com/story/amber-rudd-quits-cabinet-in-new-setback-to-boris-johnson-11804677

Erm, the government could have been well advanced in pursuing those priorities before it suddenly came down with shoot-in-foot-itis.

[Carana]

While the poor will be disproportionately affected (cf Yellowhammer),  disaster capitalists have made - and will continue to make -a killing, it seems.

https://bylinetimes.com/2019/09/11/brexit-disaster-capitalism-8-billion-bet-on-no-deal-crash-out-by-boris-johnsons-leave-backers/

[Carana]

Not sure the Hulk analogy has gone down too well over the pond...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/sep/15/eu-dismay-boris-johnson-compares-himself-to-hulk

[Carana]

BoJo's presser in Luxembourg went well. Shame he wasn't there...

As someone said, the Incredible Hulk turned into the Invisible Man.

Channel 4:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jo5uIqtUiWU

[Miss Taken Identity]

So he campaigned for Remain, but admits he doesn't fully understand all the details.  Perhaps we should do away with voting on anything, as we're all so ignorant?

What has become clear is that voting for an MP and letting them make decisions for us has been shown to be unsatisfactory. Most of them had no more knowledge about the issues than we did, but had been happily going along with greater integration nevertheless.

In my opinion a lot of MP's are far more interested in their own careers than they are in the 'good of the country'. Faced with being sacked, will the Conservative remainers chose career or country? That will be interesting.

"Perhaps we should do away with voting on anything, as we're all so ignorant? "

Now you are talking! how true that statement is!

This is a great  educational video if you have time to watch- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo  you can skip to 1:45

This is also educational -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_ylvc8Zj8

If you do  not like my posts  you will not like these!

[G-Unit]

"Perhaps we should do away with voting on anything, as we're all so ignorant? "

Now you are talking! how true that statement is!

This is a great  educational video if you have time to watch- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XcGh1Dex4Yo  you can skip to 1:45

This is also educational -https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np_ylvc8Zj8

If you do  not like my posts  you will not like these!

Smoke and mirrors. How interesting that the French asked the US for their gold back, I didn't know that!

[Venturi Swirl]

So he campaigned for Remain, but admits he doesn't fully understand all the details.  Perhaps we should do away with voting on anything, as we're all so ignorant?

What has become clear is that voting for an MP and letting them make decisions for us has been shown to be unsatisfactory. Most of them had no more knowledge about the issues than we did, but had been happily going along with greater integration nevertheless.

In my opinion a lot of MP's are far more interested in their own careers than they are in the 'good of the country'. Faced with being sacked, will the Conservative remainers chose career or country? That will be interesting.

21 of them chose country.  Does that surprise you?