Author Topic: Wandering Off Topic  (Read 1464348 times)

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Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #210 on: April 02, 2016, 11:43:05 PM »
It doesn't stall. The chain of events continues logically.

Please continue.

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #211 on: April 02, 2016, 11:44:14 PM »
Imagine burglars opened shutter and window, saw children inside, and scarpered PDQ, but also imagine hypothetically there was no disappearance of the child.

The next checker would obviously find the window and shutter open and the child not on her bed - where would the child be do you think?

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #212 on: April 02, 2016, 11:52:05 PM »
Imagine burglars opened shutter and window, saw children inside, and scarpered PDQ, but also imagine hypothetically there was no disappearance of the child.

The next checker would obviously find the window and shutter open and the child not on her bed - where would the child be do you think?

The next checker did not notice the child was missing from her bed. The child could have
a)been hiding in or behind furniture
b)been locked in the bathroom
c) gone out the front door/patio door to seek help.

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #213 on: April 03, 2016, 12:04:03 AM »
(snip) The child could have
a)been hiding in or behind furniture
b)been locked in the bathroom
c) gone out the front door/patio door to seek help.
Yes the main point is that following an interrupted entry attempt at the window of the the exact room the child was in, it is not at all surprising that the child was not on her bed.

If the child had been found safe and well, she would have been found either outside, or self-concealed in a different room.

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #214 on: April 03, 2016, 12:07:27 AM »
Yes the main point is that following an interrupted entry attempt at the window of the the exact room the child was in, it is not at all surprising that the child was not on her bed.

If the child had been found safe and well, she would have been found either outside, or self-concealed in a different room.

The child was not found safe & well in the circumstances you list.
What is the next logical step in your chain of events?

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #215 on: April 03, 2016, 12:18:32 AM »
(snip) What is the next logical step in your chain of events?
After burglar opens shutter and window, sees child moving inside, and scarpers....
the next logical deduction is (the event would be simultaneous actually) the child flees to another room.


Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #216 on: April 03, 2016, 01:06:14 AM »
After burglar opens shutter and window, sees child moving inside, and scarpers....
the next logical deduction is (the event would be simultaneous actually) the child flees to another room.

Why didn't the next checker & subsequent searchers find the child?
Why didn't the child reveal herself when she heard familiar voices?

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #217 on: April 03, 2016, 01:47:13 AM »
Why didn't the next checker & subsequent searchers find the child?
Why didn't the child reveal herself when she heard familiar voices?
If no-one had opened the window and shutter, the child would have stayed on the bed.
But if someone did open the window and shutter, the child would have run to to another room at least.
The next logical step is to ask a question. Which scenario has the greatest risks?

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #218 on: April 03, 2016, 01:58:34 AM »
If no-one had opened the window and shutter, the child would have stayed on the bed.
But if someone did open the window and shutter, the child would have run to to another room at least.
The next logical step is to ask a question. Which scenario has the greatest risks?

A third party opening the shutter & window posed the greater threat to the children's welfare.
Please continue. The scene discovered by Kate did not indicate panic or disturbance.

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #219 on: April 03, 2016, 02:14:45 AM »
A third party opening the shutter & window posed the greater threat to the children's welfare.
Please continue. The scene discovered by Kate did not indicate panic or disturbance.
It's essential to get this comparision right first
1. Running scared to another room at least.
2. Laying on a bed not scared.
Which has the greatest risks?

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #220 on: April 03, 2016, 02:19:34 AM »
So much speculative discussion about a possible burglary thatended up in abduction..thought this was a fact based forum...seen enough rubbish for another night

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #221 on: April 03, 2016, 02:42:12 AM »
It's essential to get this comparision right first
1. Running scared to another room at least.
2. Laying on a bed not scared.
Which has the greatest risks?

Running scared.
What risk did she encounter that prevented her from revealing herself to the next checker?

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #222 on: April 03, 2016, 02:56:31 AM »
Running scared.
What risk did she encounter that prevented her from revealing herself to the next checker?
I haven't exactly worked that out yet Misty.
Randomly looking at just one of many risks - and starting first with the laying on a bed scenario - how high is the bed?

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #223 on: April 03, 2016, 03:06:26 AM »
I haven't exactly worked that out yet Misty.
Randomly looking at just one of many risks - and starting first with the laying on a bed scenario - how high is the bed?

!8" as it appears to be the same height as the bed under the window.

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #224 on: April 03, 2016, 03:16:40 AM »
!8" as it appears to be the same height as the bed under the window.
So if no-one had opened the shutter and window, and the child remained laying on the bed, the maximum distance it was possible to fall would have been about 18 inches.