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Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1020 on: June 10, 2016, 01:58:46 AM »
"The shortest post-mortem interval for which we received a correct response was one hour and 25 minutes ..."
http://www.csst.org/cadaver_scent.html

I think that answers your question Misty (why no alert in bedroom in London case).





Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1021 on: June 10, 2016, 11:26:46 AM »
Everyone has read the contradictions of 6:30 which is way over 85 minutes before she was reported missing.
« Last Edit: June 10, 2016, 11:29:04 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1022 on: June 10, 2016, 09:10:47 PM »
Everyone has read the contradictions of 6:30 which is way over 85 minutes before she was reported missing.

Even if there werent contradictiins 6.30 to 10 is 3.5 hours = 210mins of no independent sighting

Offline Mr Gray

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1023 on: June 10, 2016, 09:15:25 PM »
Even if there werent contradictiins 6.30 to 10 is 3.5 hours = 210mins of no independent sighting

Didn't JT see her around 9

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1024 on: June 10, 2016, 09:16:11 PM »
Didn't JT see her around 9

Did she? I thought she saw a pair of feet

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1025 on: June 10, 2016, 09:21:59 PM »
"The shortest post-mortem interval for which we received a correct response was one hour and 25 minutes ..."
http://www.csst.org/cadaver_scent.html

I think that answers your question Misty (why no alert in bedroom in London case).

Exact time of death is unknown, Pegasus. I just wonder how long she was dead on the bed while he did what he did & took photos. I presume the cadaver dogs used in that case did not alert to dried blood.

Offline Alice Purjorick

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1026 on: June 10, 2016, 09:51:30 PM »
Did she? I thought she saw a pair of feet

Or in the case of Sadies theory :
"What did you see? two feet ; but to you my girl one foot ten inches".
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Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1027 on: June 10, 2016, 10:15:37 PM »
Or in the case of Sadies theory :
"What did you see? two feet ; but to you my girl one foot ten inches".
LOL
Jane tanners description in statements on 4 and 10  may went from two bare feet and bottom of pyjamas and magically by 10 may another jont statement appeared  where she also saw a pinky top (i dont believe this appears in her roggy nterview either) but at no time did she ever say she saw Madeleine so davel still needs to cme up with a cite if he believes she ever said any such thing...others have said it, but that doesnt count

Ergo

This leaves 210 mins at least from an independent witness statement of Maddie being seen that evening which allows for a death scent to develop

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1028 on: June 10, 2016, 11:27:33 PM »
In the CSST experiment the pad contact duration was 20 minutes.
So maybe the shortest PM interval alerted was actually 85+20 = 125 minutes?

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1029 on: June 10, 2016, 11:51:58 PM »
In the CSST experiment the pad contact duration was 20 minutes.
So maybe the shortest PM interval alerted was actually 85+20 = 125 minutes?

Yes, and?

Offline misty

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1030 on: June 11, 2016, 12:02:08 AM »
In the CSST experiment the pad contact duration was 20 minutes.
So maybe the shortest PM interval alerted was actually 85+20 = 125 minutes?

Maybe, I don't know. I just find the lack of firm alerts in locations where a body had definitely been present very disturbing when compared to the way Eddie's alerts were taken as positive indication of death by the PJ.
One wonders what extra charges K & G would have faced had they falsely confessed to discovering an apparent accidental death during that 90 minute dinner period. Quite clearly the PJ would have been made aware of minimum PM interval for alert. 

Offline pegasus

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1031 on: June 11, 2016, 12:46:42 AM »
Yes, and?
Last sighting + 125 mins makes about 23:10 earliest

Offline mercury

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1032 on: June 11, 2016, 12:55:21 AM »
Last sighting + 125 mins makes about 23:10 earliest

The prime suspcts evidence cant count for obvious reasns

Offline pathfinder73

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1033 on: June 11, 2016, 01:40:37 AM »
Exact time of death is unknown, Pegasus. I just wonder how long she was dead on the bed while he did what he did & took photos. I presume the cadaver dogs used in that case did not alert to dried blood.

Two people said she was in bed. One said she was on top of the covers, the other under. Damn this is a hard one. Tell a lie I don't believe either!
« Last Edit: June 11, 2016, 01:42:49 AM by pathfinder73 »
Smithman carrying a child in his arms checked his watch after passing the Smith family and the time was 10:03. Both are still unidentified 10 years later.

Offline Brietta

Re: Wandering Off Topic
« Reply #1034 on: June 11, 2016, 01:47:25 AM »
Two people said she was in bed. One said she was on top of the covers, the other under. Damn this is a hard one.

Just to be clear, pathfinder, Misty's post is not in reference to Madeleine McCann.  It refers to the failure of cadaver dogs to alert to the bed of a heinously murdered child where it is known without a shadow of doubt her remains lay.
"All I'm going to say is that we've conducted a very serious investigation and there's no indication that Madeleine McCann's parents are connected to her disappearance. On the other hand, we have a lot of evidence pointing out that Christian killed her," Wolter told the "Friday at 9"....