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This is a poster on the Avon and Somerset facebook website.... Posted on Friday 28th February 2011 14:15pm

Elle Milly Millward Nobody with an ounce of decency would take money from the outcome of this case, If Landlords as nice as his friends say he is, he should understand the police are doing their job when they arrest him, furthermore, DID LANDLORD SEE 3 PEOOPLE OR NOT ?

A reply from Avon and Somerset Police 28th February 2011 18:02pm

Avon and Somerset Constabulary In the light of the arrest of Vincent Tabak we are now considering the impact of this on other aspects of the investigation. A 66 year old man remains on police bail.

This investigation is still live and passing through the criminal justice process therefore we cannot comment further on this.

What other aspects of the Investigation are they referring too?? 
Is the 66 year old man CJ?? It should be who they are referring too , but I have learnt not to take these things for granted....

What exactly were they investigating ??  So 3 people at Canygne Road who may or may not have included Joanna Yeates... This info has been kept quiet and we don't know for what reason... But if they appear to be Investigating something else, as there post suggests.. Then why would it be bigger than the MURDER of JOANNA YEATES????

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Avon and Somerset Constabulary We are holding a press conference with an update on the investigation this morning at 9.30. Around that time the updated statement will be posted on our website and here as well. Shortly after we will publish a video of the briefing.

Just to repost in case anyone has missed it: Just a quick note to urge you not to use this page to speculate about the ongoing investigation into the murder of Joanna Yeates and not to speculate about pot...ential suspects.

Any post that is offensive, defamatory or libellous will be removed; however if you feel that you have information that may help this enquiry then do not hesitate to call the Operation Braid incident room on 0845 456 7000 or contact the investigative team on-line via www.avonandsomerset.police.uk/jo

You can also help by sharing updates we post on this page and our website. This spreads the appeal to a much wider audience. Thank you.

I meant to come back to this the other day.....

Joanna Yeates and not to speculate about pot...ential suspects.

I suddenly thought what are the Police referring to in this post....

* Pot = Dope/weed/cannibis

* entail = property inheritance

Are they trying to say it was a Pot House??  Or that there was a Pot house in the vicinity??
CJ was on the neighbour hood watch, maybe they were asking him what he knew in the area.... Did Dr Vincent Tabak smoke pot??

The Police have made a deliberate post there...

It's an odd post from the Police ..(imo) They are obviously hinting at something! Maybe not what I have suggested.. but definately something is being hinted at.... (imo)

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23rd December 2010

Jacquie Yeates
Thoughts with David Theresa Greg and Chris, as well as Jo, for being so brave. We're all with you. More people bringing hope everyday xxxx

I read that as Joanna Yeates being brave.... Does this go with the abduction idea??

This is from The Missing page on facebook

David Yeates
24 December 2010 (02:51)
The comment below is from me, not Greg. I was mistakenly logged into his facebook Id. Applogies

We get this....

Greg Beardon
24 December 2010 (02:42)
Teresa & I had to go to Bristol today and we were totally moved by the number of posters placed in the windows of shops and pubs around Clifton, near Jo's flat. Unfortunately we were not able to meet up with you at Cabots Circus. We cannot find the words to express our appreciation of the effort you have given in an attempt to bring my little girl back. The sight of her face in each of the posters brought home the unreal situation we find ourselves in.

How did that happen?? Was he posting as Greg Reardon also?? 

At this point I do not know what the Polices position is..... 

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Oh dear mrswah.... Starring me in the face all this time..... 

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Part 1....
http://miscarriageofjustice.co/index.php?topic=9786.msg472504#msg472504

A link to my explanation.... which now, I have an idea.... I believe all possibilities need exploring....

I keep going over and over and over, what it possibly could be that Dr Vincent Tabak did, that would warrant the Police pushing to detain him on NO evidence...

And with me relaying to people how I came across this case and what I had been involved in at the time, I was imagining that it could have been part of the Police Media strategy....

But on reflection maybe not.....


Thinking about some of the early reports on the case too, that appear to make no sense to people ... yet, there was a source that originally gave this information.... And informs us of what was happening around the case....

Obviously I cannot remember every topic that was on this forum.... But I had said that there were neighbours on Canygne road and I think Perceival Road, that were posting on there....

Now do not quote me on this... but I have a vague recollection of LP being a member.. But He wasn't there long...

Dr Vincent Tabak as we know was an engineer and a computer expert.... I think it is extremely possible that Dr Vincent Tabak set up the forum.... No less likely than it being the Police.... or anyone connected to them...

Or did Dr Vincent Tabak know who set up the forum?? many questions...

So this is possibly why the dates are all over the place...  Members who were online on the forum obviously were more informed about what was actually taking place around Canygne Road and surrounding areas.... And could give up to date information....

I have said it is about origin, and believe that to be the case....  The Lehman's looking upset coming out of court I couldn't understand the did not know Joanna Yeates, they were visiting apparently... But maybe they were more upset about something else....

Everyones connected..... rings through my head..... Is that because of the Facebook forum or Discussion group?? It's possible.... Anything is possible....

And maybe that is the reason I keep coming back to this case.... And why it doesn't leave me.... I was there with the forum... I read what had been written...  I remember and recognise names.....

The question I am asking myself now was Dr Vincent Tabak the original Admin??

Did he post information that should not have been released... where images posted on this forum that shouldn't have been released as they were not public...??

You see everything I post and especially anything that is facebook/twitter related, when i have viewed it, the images were public... They have to be as I keep saying I have no contacts or friends on my facebook page... Zero Ziltch...

Not mrswah... Not leonora... no-one... Therefore every image i post has been public and made public by the people on their facebook accounts....

Also I believe that people who rejoined on the discussion group has slightly change there names... Or there were similar names to the original forum.... This is why it confuses me slightly...

This Case is and I am even more convinced.. Is based on social media... And the stories that we see around the Internet, which we question where they may have come from... I have a suspicion there origin was The forum.....

What better way to inform anyone what is taking place at anyone time.....

This I believe is why the "TIMINGS" don't add up and the reporting in the media at the time, has come from the forum.... The Ikea guys... That could have been on the forum... It's extremely possible... And the talk of CJ and comments made about him, very well may have been made on the forum..... As many people on this forum, were local...

I am having flashbacks to names on the forum, that were originally there and I believe that some took on the names of people who were connected to the Investigation.... This used to confuse me at the time and I began to wonder if these people where from Canygne Road etc.... Knowing that locals had joined the forum....  This is why when I see names now I have a vague recollection of seeing them before....  This is why I get drawn to them.... because I recognise them....  I hope the same would apply to the American girl I mentioned, whom I thought was Italian....

But all I can say for sure is "Christina Rossetti" I remembered that name... and why....

If you go back to the list of names that had apparently made statements that were read out at trial and didn't attended to support this statement... You have to question why?? Where was this Information? It could have come from the forum.... 

Another thought comes to me.... DCI Phil Jones says that Dr Vincent Tabak only every talked about a mobile phone... well was this on the forum?? Was Dr Vincent Tabak a member of this group that no-one remembers??

There are NO statements from Dr Vincent Tabak.... He always says No Comment.... That is until we come to trial....

Lord.. I have just had another thought.... Does the statement Dr Vincent Tabak made at trial come  from posts made on the forum??? They have to get the Information from somewhere and that is the only source I can think of that would have a combination of ideas....scenario,s etc of what may have happened to Joanna Yeates...

80 times Dr Vincent Tabak says he doesn't know.... 80 times Dr Vincent Tabak cannot answer questions put to him... He Cries... He apologies to The Yeates...  But what is he apologising for??

Is he apologising for the forum and how that hampered the search... And how that delayed finding her.... As the Police were monitoring the forum , which I have no doubt they were... is this why Dr Vincent Tabak feels guilty?? Is this why he pled guilty to Manslaughter....

If Joanna Yeates had been abducted as The Yeates have maintained and behaved as if that was the case... Did Dr Vincent Tabak.. Interfer with the Investigation.....

Was Joanna Yeates frozen??? Is that a myth.... Was she still alive?? Was it possible to find her still??  The original date that Dr Vincent Tabak was charged between was between the 16th December 2010 and the 26th December 2010...

Was Joanna Yeates Missing earlier?

Everything is racing through my head... names dates etc.... The forum.... all connected... but in which order....

* Did Dr Vincent Tabak hamper this Investigation??

* Did his actions cause Joanna Yeates to die??

* Did the Police only use the forum as their main source for their information??

If Dr Vincents Tabak's actions caused the death of Joanna Yeates, by hampering the Investigation and some wild goose chase took place... Does that make him guilty of manslaughter??

Could that be the case?? I don't know.. But it's a question to ask....

Had he heard something?? Did he say something?? Do the Police know that Fr Vincent tabak helped move the car or that Dr Vincent Tabak said something on-line about CJ's car changing position... Is it that information that the Police used....

Did the Police "KNOW" who owned which account? Or did they just assume that the accounts must be certain people... And there Mis-handling (imo) Of this Investigation, is why this Investigation is such a cock-up...

Did they rely too much on gossip on social media?? Did they waste valuable time not using traditional Policing methods to find out what happened to Joanna Yeates ...

Whio killed Joanna Yeates?? I don't know.... Was it Dr Vincent Tabak?? I don't believe so...... I never have.... But have the Police put two and two together?

Have they mis-interpreted what was said on-line.... we all do it depending on mood etc...  we mis- Interpret what we read , because we are looking for something that relates to what is on our own minds....

And did the Police... look for something that wasn't there??

It's all about context... And depending on your situation , it will depend on how you respond....

Mis-Information on social media has been apart of the Internet for an age.... And we chose which part of that Information we choose to believe... And whether it is relevant....

And anything written on that forum could have been viewed with that idea... What process did they use to decide whether it was relevant or not?? How did they discern whom was real and whom wasn't.... Who sent them on a wild goose chase.... And who didn't...

There is no way to find the origin of a tweet or a post, because you have no idea where the poster or tweeter originally saw this info.... Did they just copy and past something they saw elsewhere?? Or was it the information that they contained within their head that they knew was fact.... But then you need evidence to prove this also....

So was a deal made with Dr Vincent Tabak??/ Did he admit to Manslaughter based on what he had done and not by any physical contact he made... Did he write a scenario on-line as to how Joanna Yeates came to her demise and THIS is what was used against him at trial???

Because if you look at my posts i have come up with a never ending scenario and links that can be made to this case... But how much is based on fact?? And how much is just a re-hash of what was already on the internet....??

You don't know And I don't know.... But what I can say for a fact is that....

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Part2...


There was a Forum and discussion about Joanna Yeates... I know I was apart of it... And it's your choice whether you believe me or not.... But I have no reason to lie.... I am not here to make a name for myself.. I do not tell people whom I am.. I don't want to make money out of this and sticking my neck out for a man I do not know and no-one really wants to know is hardly going to make me popular... 

We do not know the content of what took place at The Old Bailey... We do not know if the forum was mentioned at The Old Bailey or subsequent trial... We do not know if Dr Vincent Tabak had a hand in this forum or whether the forum was the reason that the delays in finding Joanna Yeates was hampered... There is so much we do not know....

But why if Dr Vincent Tabak was a person who obviously used the internet did none of his facebook posts make it to trial.. or tweet for that matter? I think that is important...

Was the talk behind closed door that we were not privy too talk of this Facebook Forum.... I don't know.. I can hazzard a guess based on my experience... I do not know if anyone is Investigating this... And am unsure by me posting this whether I myself may be hampering an Investigation...

But i leave that for other to let me know....  Or am I at last revealing what took place between those dates up until Dr Vincent Tabak's arrest...

They never Investigated after Dr Vincent Tabak was arrested.... They couldn't ..why... Because I think their Investigation was based on their watching what people had posted and how they could be connected... And people are connected in many many ways... Just not like you may imagine...


Yes the post above says 20 months... But in reality it's getting on for 8 years if I include the forum and the times I have tried to understand why Dr Vincent Tabak is in prison... Or should I say was given a twenty year sentence...

Because it could be a virtual sentence seeing as everything else appears to have been established virtually... without always knowing the origin....

I may change why I believe is not in prison and why I believe that his face and name is is associate with child porn...

With references and on-line checking people do he will forever be associated with this type of activity and his it will affect his life... For 10 years in this country anyway... so he did get a sentence whether or not he is serving it... I don't know.... But he will be associated for ever with the Joanna Yeates case and that very well could be for all the wrong reasons....

I tried to understand... why this case never left me... why a Placid Dutchman was sentenced for a Murder I do not believe he committed and following logic i can try and come up with a logical solution.....

And the reason that this case is built on facebook and tweets and media reports... Is because that is where it started.. On a forum.... And maybe something went before that too....  But My Origin of this case is the forum... Even If I cannot accurately say how I came to know about the case....

But did the Police take this Missing person report seriously in the beginning?? We see reports... we are told long tales... But what did the Police do when they found out that she was Missing???

Was the facebook Missing Group set -up to highlight that the Police weren't doing enough? possibly...

And what I am saying about this case just as possible..... Is the key to this Case the Internet.?? Was it the key to Joanna Yeates disappearance??

It is an unusal Case by any measure... And until I have solid evidence that Dr Vincent Tabak killed Joanna Yeates ...I will stay with my belief that he is Innocent.... As I said... gossip on the Internet is not proof....

Rebecca Scott... when she said she spoke on the phone with Joanna Yeates.... Did she hear Joanna yeates voice??? Did she physically verbally hearing every sound from her voice..... Or did she mean she spoke to her on the Internet via Facebook... and that is why the times change of when this Interaction took place??

Last person to speak to her who could positively identify Joanna Yeates  would not be some random vicar.... It would Not be Rebecca Scott....  It would be a person who say/... Yes... I know her... I can vouch I last saw her on this day....

This I believe is why we get the uncertainty of Joanna Yeates mood.... Because people are interpreting what they are  reading (imo) and applying it to themselves... Making the information not an accurate account....

The Police looked at Joanna Yeates phone... That is where I believe the information comes from.... And it is Joanna Yeates interactions with people.... Was the phone found .... had she lost it..... Did Dr Vincent Tabak find it and had pranked it?? I suggest this because if Greg could apparently gain access to whom she had contacted without a password, that would mean someone else would have the same ability....

And was Dr Vincent Tabak the person who said he was the police and had sent a message at 4:00am to Rebecca Scott?? The reason I am putting this forward as a idea, suggestion whatever you want to call it.... Is that DCI Phil Jones stated that Dr Vincent Tabak would, said No comment to everything put to him... But the only thing he did answer questions about was to do with "A" mobile phone.... [was that Joanna Yeates mobile phone ??]

Did Dr Vincent Tabak find this phone when he put the rubbish out?? It's possible...
Maybe he didn't know how serious this was at the time... I don't know.. And....
We will never know... But I believe that the case needs looking at again properly... And with proper evidence....

And an honest assessment and an honest reason as to why they jailed Dr Vincent Tabak... And i do not mean the bizarre trial we had.....  Is he convicted because basically you could say he assisted the murderer by his own actions? And was pressured into getting this case close.... AH.. suggested Dr Vincent Tabak ran rings around the police ... and maybe he did... And maybe he is being punished for showing up their weakness's....embarassing them.... because they decided a course of action that was incorrect....

But who would know about the forum??? Not many I guess... because no-one speaks of it...  So what could have they pressurised him with??

Maybe the Facebook hacking.... America is a different country altogether and Facebook is an American owned company....  Maybe the idea of going to America to be put on trial for the hacking was enough to put pressure on Dr Vincent Tabak... Maybe the idea that if he pled guilty to Manslaughter of a fluffed Investigation... Then it would be a win win for all concerned...

But the Yeates may not have been aware of the forum I was part of... Or as I am assuming Dr Vincent Tabak's connection to it.... So no... they didn't win.... Because justice for Joanna Yeates hasn't been done... Someone is paying the price in the publics mind... And slaps on the back all round for the Police...

And is this the reason CPS push for Murder.... because Joanna Yeates was actually Murdered and battered and had many Injuries.... And once they had charged Dr Vincent Tabak they too were carried along with this crazy case?? So much money had already been spent..(imo) on a ham fisted investigation that never moved away from Canygne Road... 

I don't know I am not stating it as fact... It's a scenario... just as many other scenarios that have been put forward for this case.....

So are we getting closer to the truth....??? I hope so.... 

Now we need to start looking at why the investigation focused on Canygne Road, why it never shifted from their and it's more than likely to do with The Mobile Phone and A Key , which could possibily have brought about finding Joanna Yeates sooner.... (imo)

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I must read the journal properly... I have skimmed it... we all do it... There maybe things in there that refresh my memory....

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They concentrated on that house and that house alone.... The concentrated on CJ.... Because he was the landlord, because he had keys, because he had added to his witness statement... Because he didn't have a witness alibi??

Consider this as a scenario... Had Dr Vincent Tabak found Joanna Yeates phone?? Had CJ let him pop it back.... He coat was there, had he pranked her phone??

There's information contained within CJ's second witness statement and it is not just about hearing people at the gate....

He could have seen or heard people... the mobile phone may have been dropped on the path.... Did he pick it up? we don't know Did Dr Vincent Tabak find it when he went to ASDA?? Did he prank it??

Was his first visit to ASDA so much earlier??  They keep telling us he was bored.... But are the texts sent from Joanna Yeates to her friends from Joanna Yeates??

We don't really know who sends us the messages we receive... we trust it is from the people who we know are sending us these messages...

I'm going to put a scenario forward...

We have heard that CJ had spoke to Dr Vincent Tabak, we had heard this was how Dr Vincent Tabak, was aware that Joanna Yeates was going to be on her own all weekend... CJ says he saw people at the gate.... Did he see and speak to Dr Vincent Tabak before he went to Asda?? If Dr Vincent Tabak followed down the path after Joanna Yeates and found this mobile for instance then did he prank with it??

For arguments sake lets say Dr Vincent Tabak had found the phone... And it was  Dr Vincent Tabak who sent these messages.. And it was he who had text Chris Yeates friend about what he was up to... Pretending to be Joanna ???

Joanna Yeates normally contacted this friend via Facebook... But Dr Vincent Tabak would not know this.... he didn't know her... But if he's sat at home bored messing with this phone maybe when he receives the replies and Greg messages.. He realises he needs to put it back... it's possible that it was Dr Vincent Tabak having a joke , we don't know him or his sense of humour... He might have thought it amusing that when Greg came home, he would have seen all these texts to various men from Joanna ....

As they say when the cats away the mice will play....

And this is possibly where CJ comes in to this.... If it was CJ who opened the door for Dr Vincent Tabak to put the phone back... neither of them would be aware that she was a Missing Person at this time.......  Or was it CJ who made the phone call to inform the Police on the 19th December 2010, because of the state of the flat and he had been inside and hadn't seen his tenant all weekend..... I don't know... this is a scenario.....

Putting both CJ and Dr Vincent Tabak in the centre of a crime and possible Crime scene..
 there needs to be a reason the Police know that Dr Vincent Tabak had been inside that flat when CJ was there....

And because of the mobile phone, then did they know that someone else had messed with it....

And here we start....

The investigation stayed at that address.... and she was only ever called a Missing Person... How is Dr Vincent Tabak a Foreign National supposed to understand how our Police work in a Missing Persons Investigation.... He's Dutch... It could be normal procedure for an incident room to be parked outside an address and officers constantly around....

But maybe because of these messages to these male friends  he may have done... he didn't want to admit to it.... Putting the last time anyone had seen Joanna Yeates back to The Ram....

Rebecca Scott didn't see her, we are told they spoke... maybe they did.... But It's after  her leaving The Ram that things are a little vague....

What her and Rebecca Scott apparently discussed at the time could have been done over messages... And other aspects of this chat were possibly on the Facebook Forum....

I have read that Rebecca had left Wales on the Friday then next it says... she left Wales on the Sunday.... But if we do not have the origin of this mobile phone communication, and what type of communication it was.... The we cannot know for sure....

I'll reiterate..... DCI Phil Jones had to have a reason to talk to Dr Vincent Tabak and as DCI Jones has stated... It was only ever around a mobile phone and Dr Vincent Tabak wouldn't answer any questions relating to CJ or anything else..... Maybe he talked of The Facebook Forum....  he was Interviewed for 6 hours...

Maybe because Dr Vincent Tabak didn't want to implicate CJ....

But maybe they did find Dr Vincent Tabak's finger prints on the front door... maybe that wasn't an untruth.... And they wanted to question him about it.... maybe his finger prints are on this mobile phone??

They are under pressure to solve this crime ... The only person whom, doesn't appear to have an alibi is CJ ... the only person who could gain entry without forcing entry is CJ....

So to add pressure and put  the other neighbours under the same pressure they arrest CJ.... The door had already been forensically tested, before the 29th December 2010, when we get a birds eye view of them removing it.....

CJ's arrest was a planned one... it was marked in DCI Phil Jones log/note book.... What better way to get Dr Vincent Tabak in for a chat, than to arrest CJ....

What better way to have an excuse to collect a DNA sample in Holland, than arrest CJ.... Did Dr Vincent Tabak actually contact the Police or did they contact Dr Vincent Tabak.... Did they use the excuse about the car as a reason to go to Holland.... Where they asked for a sample....

meaning that they could link his (touch) DNA with Joanna Yeates DNA... on her body... Well her body had been touching the phone.... the DNA would therefore be Mixed....  tying Dr Vincent Tabak and Joanna Yeates DNA together....

So they really need an excuse to Interview Dr Vincent Tabak..... And I think the Holland Interview is it.... It is DCI Jones who later after trial talks of Dr Vincent Tabak saying nothing other than about the mobile phone....

So a 200 page not book full of No comment from his Holland Interview... But If they do not want us to know about the forum or what Dr Vincent Tabak answered about a mobile phone... we are left with our own scenario's....

And if the Facebook Forum was kept out of trial or anything to do with Facebook or twitter... Then we don't know what context the Interview with DC Karen Thomas was about.... We may assume... and they let us make our own minds up.....

But if relevant information is Missing.... And The Forum origin is Missing.. do the police want to divulge there media strategy at a trial.... ??

Because it took so long for Dr Vincent Tabk to say what had happened with this phone ... The Police were chasing leads that didn't exist.... And it was Dr Vincent Tabak's actions that caused the delay in locating her...

Dr Vincent Tabak say's he is sorry for putting the Yeates through a week of hell..... But which week is he taking about..... From when she went Missing to when she was found.... Or for not admitting sooner he had messed and pranked a phone he found...??

We have to remember that DC Karen Thomas and the Police went around to Dr Vincent Tabak's Flat on many occasions from when she was reported Missing to before she was found... He was constantly rung by the Police.....

Why???

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They wanted him ... they needed him... when quite frankly they shouldn't.... Did Dr Vincent Tabak's finger prints show up at the Flat on the door?? Was he connected to her mobile phone?? maybe a print of his was found on the phone??

CJ said that the Police took witness statements and Finger prints along with DNA samples from all of the tenants... which everyone submitted ... So is this where the connection between Dr Vincent Tabak  and DNA comes from....

It has to be CJ that tells them that he and Dr Vincent Tabak were in that Flat at one point together... But when...? Or did that come from the Facebook Forum??
Did CJ know about the Facebook site?? Was he a participant on the forum??

And it is possible to see how Dr Vincent Tabak could be connected quite Innocently with Joanna yeates... Or you could say not so Innocently because of what he may have done...

And it takes until he is questioned about the mobile phone that, they now have there knew suspect......

Ann Redrrop stated that they were looking into Dr Vincent Tabak since late December... well if were are all adding up at the moment... I am suggesting that It is Joanna Yeates Mobile phone that Dr Vincent Tabak tells DC Karen Thomas about ... or her colleague...

Put that together with Dr Vincent Tabak having touched the front door and you have a reason to suspect him....


The week of agony he put the Yeates through... Now if he didnt divulge about what he knew about this mobile phone when he spoke to DC Karen Thomas on the 24th December 2010 and eventually told them on the 31st December 2010 .. then we have our week... a week of hell that The Yeates didn't need to go through...

Dr Vincent Tabak says sorry about the "week" of hell.. when Joanna Yeates was Missing for 8 days... that is over a week... so was the week of hell really about him not being honest about the mobile phone and what he may have done??

If he had said sooner maybe Joanna Yeates would or could have been found alive....

And this is the reason that Dr Vincent Tabak feels responsible for Joanna Yeates death.... rather than him actually killing her..... Because if he hadn't messed with the mobile phone... Then the Polices lines of Inquiry may have been different... making him responsible for the outcome...

Anyway... It's an idea... And unless we really know who set up the facebook forum.. Or who said what on this Facebook forum it makes it difficult to know what the origins of the messages or anything else was...

Maybe this info was stated by Dr Vincent Tabak on the Forum....  Maybe it was CJ who contacted The Yeates on the 19th December 2010 and said he believed she was Missing.... But he had put himself inside the flat... I don't know... But I do know there is too much Information Missing about this case... And a man convicted on what amounts to a story that is not supported by any evidence.... (imo)

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Or a far more simple answer... he posted something on the "Facebook Forum"... (which was a proper forum not a group)

Maybe he posted something about the mobile phone that no-one should have known.... `And they wanted to know how he knew....

That Old Facebook Forum... May it is the Key to this Case.... If only we could see it all!!

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From The Journal from The Face Book Forum ... 29th December 2010....

Kelly Jackson
he was either in the apartment already when she arrived home but that does not explain why the police have always suspected the killer was known to her .......or he has popped round, she let him in and he killed her.

The scenario they chose  for Dr Vincent Tabak...(imo)

* He popped round and she let him in and he killed her....

* So was the first scenario used on CJ.....  The LL was known to her and he had the keys to enter the Flat....??

 

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One more thing I can and will add about the Old Facebook forum... Is that when you wanted to address someone on the forum you would put @_ _  and there name on it.... 

So @Derek for instance... then Derek would have a notification I believe that a reply had been directed at them.... maybe I shouldn't be saying this I don't know...

I was just on a forum years ago....

And that emoji I just used made me think of the sobbing girl.... maybe she was on the forum too.... 

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I keep thinking about the old facebook forum that was on Facebook when Joanna Yeates disappeared.. And trying to remember what it looked like....

The interface was different from this forum, it took me a moment to navigate it.... But it was  a cross between, facebook a forum and twitter... I think that the best way I can describe it at the moment..

Why it was originally set up i don't know.... Maybe the origin of it need questioning.

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It's has been sending me bonkers trying to find and remember the name of the girl who would converse on the Old Facebook Forum "Joanna Yeates" Discussion of The Case...

I went back skimming the journal to see if I recognised her name.... And I found it ... not only that i found the exact avatar of her that was used when she was on the forum... How crazy is that.....

Her name was "Alexandra Alvarez de Toledo"  she was one of the names that when I went to re-rejoin the discussion group, i knew when i saw her avatar that I was on the right group....

Why she has always stuck with me I cannot tell you....   There is an image of her on pintrest... I put her name into google and looked at images... There she was on pintrest.... Now the avatar she uses on pintrest and this is over 7 years later is the exact same avatar that she used on the Old Facebook Forum... she hasn't changed it.... odd

Which for me was fortunate... As that is the avatar of her I remembered anyway...

this is one of her posts from the journal: when discussing the appeal footage that had been pulled...

Alexandra Alvarez de Toledo
I was watching a program with Dr.Ekman, a Professor from Berkley University. Dr.Ekman conducted some of the first studies on human emotions and their expression on our faces. His research concluded that regardless of race, from New Guinea to Japan, emotions look the exactly the same on every human being. His latest research has been about how microexpressions. These are basically involuntary expressions that expressed subtext, they happen very fast, but can give away deceit or conflicting emotions. Anyway, his work is very interesting. I have to say that after watching some of Dr.Ekman's tutorials, Greg Reardon's tearful plea takes a whole different meaning
http://face.paulekman.com/aboutmett2.aspx

Now the question has to be ...... Did she join our facebook group herself or had someone borrowed her identity??  At the time I would have said that it was who she said she was... But on reflection that doesn't have to be the case...

Odd how her image has stuck with me, and I knew the minute i saw it i would recognise it....
On the image search I used google to search for the image to see if there were any more of this lady... The search results just say "Girl" with image of "Alexandra Alvarez de Toledo" and random other images that are not relevant..

I have found her facebook page which has very little on it apart from one thing that caught my eye.. Is an image that was uploaded in 26th September 2011 which came from an album in 2010 ... which is strange.... Seeing as there is nothing else from 2010... Her Facebook Posts start in 2011...

album
Album 25 Mar 2010

Alexandra Alvarez de Toledo added a new photo.
26 September 2011 ·
iPhoto
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IMG_8731

Her facebook account may well be fake... she hasn't changed the avatar of that either....  It's the exact same one that was used on the forum...

Looking at her friends, her are some names that ring a bell...

* Frank Columbo

* Vicki Roust

* Sarah Shaw

I'm not saying they were all on the Old forum, just that they ring a bell....

Sorry if it's another boring post, But it has satisfied my curiosity and my memory is not incorrect... The Forum and what I remember is somewhere in my head....  Think it needs dusting... 

Edit.. https://uk.linkedin.com/in/alexandra-alvarez-de-toledo-4b662030

American University
American University
BA, History
1988 – 1992

President
Street Family Films
February 2002 – December 2006 (4 years 11 months)

CEO
RioBlush
2007 – Present (11 years)
President & CEO RioBlush is a medical device company that develops, manufactures, markets, and sells high quality medical devices for aesthetic and medical use. The majority of the products are based on the company's patented technology, RASHA(TM). Sales are made through the company's own subsidiaries or distributors in over 20 countries.

Chairman
RioGenX
January 2014 – Present (4 years 7 months)
RioGenX is a clinical-stage biopharmaceutical company focused on the discovery, development and commercialization of novel prescription products for the aesthetic medicine market.

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