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Off Topic and General Discussions => A Compendium of High Profile Murder Cases => Topic started by: Andrea on July 18, 2012, 11:18:33 PM
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Peter Sutcliffe, was convicted in 1981 of the murders of 13 women, he was also convicted of the attempted murder of 7 others.
Below are a list of the attacks on women he admitted to.
Anna Rogulskyj attacked in Keighley west yorkshire (survived)
Olive Smelt attacked in Halifax West Yorkshire (survived)
Tracey brown attacked in Silsden (survived)
Wilma Mcann attacked in Leeds west Yorkshire (died)
Emily Jackson attacked in leeds west Yorkshire (died)
Marcella Claxton attacked in Leeds west Yorkshire (survived)
Irene Richardson attacked in leeds west Yorkshire (died)
Patricia atkinson attacked in Bradford west yorkshire (died)
Jayne Macdonald attacked in Leeds West Yorskhire (died)
Maureen Long attacked in Bradford west Yorkshire (survived)
Jean Jordan attacked in Manchester (died)
Marilyn moore attcked in Leeds (survived)
Yvonne Pearson attcked in Bradford (died)
Helen Rytka attcked in Huddersfield (died)
Vera Millward attacked in Manchester (died)
Josephine Whittaker attacked in Halifax (died)
Barbara Leach attacked in Bradford (died)
Margurite Walls attacked in Leeds (died)
Upadhya bandara attacked in leeds (survived)
Theresa sykes attacked in Huddersfield (survived)
Jacquline Hill attacked in Leeds (died)
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There is an extra person on the above list, that he admitted to after his conviction.
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He also attcked a woman in 1969 and a irish student in the Horsforth area of leeds.
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He also attcked a woman in 1969 and a irish student in the Horsforth area of leeds.
Thanks for the thread Andrea. Makes interesting reading. 8((()*/
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Peter Sutcliffe, was convicted in 1981 of the murders of 13 women, he was also convicted of the attempted murder of 7 others.
Below are a list of the attacks on women he admitted to.
Anna Rogulskyj attacked in Keighley west yorkshire
Olive Smelt attacked in Halifax West Yorkshire
Tracey brown attacked in Silsden
Wilma Mcann attacked in Leeds west Yorkshire
Emily Jackson attacked in leeds west Yorkshire
Marcella Claxton attacked in Leeds west Yorkshire
Irene Richardson attacked in leeds west Yorkshire
Patricia atkinson attacked in Bradford west yorkshire
Jayne Macdonald attacked in Leeds West Yorskhire
Maureen Long attacked in Bradford west Yorkshire
Jean Jordan attacked in Manchester
Marilyn moore attcked in Leeds
Yvonne Pearson attcked in Bradford
Helen Rytka attcked in Huddersfield
Vera Millward attacked in Manchester
Josephine Whittaker attacked in Halifax
Barbara Leach attacked in Bradford
Margurite Walls attacked in Leeds
Upadhya bandara attacked in leeds
Theresa sykes attacked in Huddersfield
Jacquline Hill attacked in Leeds
God Almighty. I don't believe in the death penalty, but.....
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Horrific isnt it?
There are lots more Shona, some police think that he attacked as far north as Glasgow. He was a lorry driver so got around the country alot as part of his job.
His collegues from where Sutcliffe worked, used to actually joke and say he was the ripper, only jokingly, Sutcliffe used to laugh along with them, how little did they know.
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What do you think of what O'Gara says? He seems completely obsessed with Billy Tracey but he does highlight a lot of inconsistencies in the murders.
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I think what he says is interesting, and according to the police there was a copycat killer. when sutcliffe was arrested his brother went to HMP Leeds to visit him. He asked Sutcliffe if he had killed all those people and ones that others were talking about him. he replied "yes, but i didnt do them all".
It makes you think, that tracey bloke sounds a bit of a nutter, wonder if he's still alive?
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That list makes sober reading Andrea. It beggars belief how he got away with it for so long.
The police really messed up on that investigation. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they questioned him numerous times?. I read that the police actually stopped him once while driving his car through a red light area and quickly questioned him; Sutcliffe later commented that the 'copper that spoke to me had in his hand a copy of the soles of the very boots I was wearing'
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Oh dear. The blue forum has gone all mental again. Any minute now, Gladys will pull on his balaclava and "Tonight, Matthew, I'm going to be.....GAV!!"
I've always said that JB reads this stuff with a face like Munch's Scream.
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That list makes sober reading Andrea. It beggars belief how he got away with it for so long.
The police really messed up on that investigation. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they questioned him numerous times?. I read that the actually police stopped him once while driving his car through a red light area and quickly questioned him; Sutcliffe later commented that the 'copper that spoke to me had in his hand a copy of the soles of the very boots I was wearing'
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Sutcliffe was interviewed eight times, ian. A copper called Laptew felt uneasy about Sutcliffe and left a note to holland about it, expressing his concern. Holland filed it and his worries were never looked into. When Sutcliffe was arrested laptew was fed up, not because of person glory he could have had, but for the women that could have been saved if his worries had been acted on.
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That list makes sober reading Andrea. It beggars belief how he got away with it for so long.
The police really messed up on that investigation. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't they questioned him numerous times?. I read that the actually police stopped him once while driving his car through a red light area and quickly questioned him; Sutcliffe later commented that the 'copper that spoke to me had in his hand a copy of the soles of the very boots I was wearing'
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8 times! and they still didn't realise. At least Laptew seemed to have some sense!
Sutcliffe was interviewed eight times, ian. A copper called Laptew felt uneasy about Sutcliffe and left a note to holland about it, expressing his concern. Holland filed it and his worries were never looked into. When Sutcliffe was arrested laptew was fed up, not because of person glory he could have had, but for the women that could have been saved if his worries had been acted on.
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It may have been less ian, i could be mistaken.
The boots you mentioned, he was wearing them when a copper interviewed him at home yes.
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It may have been less ian, i could be mistaken.
The boots you mentioned, he was wearing them when a copper interviewed him at home yes.
Ah that was it! He was interviewed at home and he was wearing the boots. I knew it was somewhere.
Thank you Andrea
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He was only caught by chance really. Routine checks on his registration plates. He planned to muder the woman who was in the car with him at the time. Olivia Reivers, think that was her name.
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Richard and Sonia Mccann (Wilma's chilrent, 2 of 4) did a programme about the children the ripper left behind. It was quite sad. Sonia Mccann committed suicide in December 2007, she never got over the death of her mother and had alcohol problems for years.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/622475/Peter-Sutcliffe-Yorkshire-Ripper-VIctim-Murder-Daughter-Sonia-Newlands.html
Recently, the son of another of Peter Sutcliffe was on Loook North asking for information about his mother, Irene Richardson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-18651202
Even after all these years people continue to suffer for the actions of 'that' man 8(8-))
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Richard and Sonia Mccann (Wilma's chilrent, 2 of 4) did a programme about the children the ripper left behind. It was quite sad. Sonia Mccann committed suicide in December 2007, she never got over the death of her mother and had alcohol problems for years.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/622475/Peter-Sutcliffe-Yorkshire-Ripper-VIctim-Murder-Daughter-Sonia-Newlands.html
Recently, the son of another of Peter Sutcliffe was on Loook North asking for information about his mother, Irene Richardson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-18651202
Even after all these years people continue to suffer for the actions of 'that' man 8(8-))
You are spot on Joanne. The families continue to suffer for a generation. In Bambers case he wiped out his own family completely but the cousins have had their names dragged through the mud for over 25 years. You would think it was a crime to inherit according to some deluded people.
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Richard and Sonia Mccann (Wilma's chilrent, 2 of 4) did a programme about the children the ripper left behind. It was quite sad. Sonia Mccann committed suicide in December 2007, she never got over the death of her mother and had alcohol problems for years.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/622475/Peter-Sutcliffe-Yorkshire-Ripper-VIctim-Murder-Daughter-Sonia-Newlands.html
Recently, the son of another of Peter Sutcliffe was on Loook North asking for information about his mother, Irene Richardson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-18651202
Even after all these years people continue to suffer for the actions of 'that' man 8(8-))
Thank you for posting those links. I must admit I haven't seen them previously but it just goes to show the damage these monsters exercise on those who are left behind. Can you just imagine letting these people out of prison. What other untold damage are they capable of...it is horrendous.
I can understand why both Julie Mugford and David Boutflour made mention that Bamber was capable of anything even now and must never be released. I must say I can see the logic in this given what has happened to others.
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Richard and Sonia Mccann (Wilma's chilrent, 2 of 4) did a programme about the children the ripper left behind. It was quite sad. Sonia Mccann committed suicide in December 2007, she never got over the death of her mother and had alcohol problems for years.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/622475/Peter-Sutcliffe-Yorkshire-Ripper-VIctim-Murder-Daughter-Sonia-Newlands.html
Recently, the son of another of Peter Sutcliffe was on Loook North asking for information about his mother, Irene Richardson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-18651202
Even after all these years people continue to suffer for the actions of 'that' man 8(8-))
Thank you for posting those links. I must admit I haven't seen them previously but it just goes to show the damage these monsters exercise on those who are left behind. Can you just imagine letting these people out of prison. What other untold damage are they capable of...it is horrendous.
I can understand why both Julie Mugford and David Boutflour made mention that Bamber was capable of anything even now and must never be released. I must say I can see the logic in this given what has happened to others.
God forbid mate!!!!
Bamber is a cold calculating killer and I don't think the passage of time will ever change that. Once a killer always a killer they say!!!
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Some programmes about this charming man-:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRrxy1GSfCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHSb8juL8SQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqvkx2diqCQ
The yorkshire ripper hoaxer-:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCfyxGr6G0&feature=related
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Some programmes about this charming man-:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRrxy1GSfCQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHSb8juL8SQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqvkx2diqCQ
The yorkshire ripper hoaxer-:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mCfyxGr6G0&feature=related
Great research..........thanks Joanne. You are my star :-)
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Thank you @)(++(*
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Channel 5, 8pm, there's a programme on about Peter Sutcliffe.
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Channel 5, 8pm, there's a programme on about Peter Sutcliffe.
Watch Peter Sutcliffe, Watch Fred West, Watch Myra Hindley. What are you about exactly ?
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Channel 5, 8pm, there's a programme on about Peter Sutcliffe.
Watch Peter Sutcliffe, Watch Fred West, Watch Myra Hindley. What are you about exactly ?
What are you watching? ......Jo?
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Judge Judy at the minute, Peter Sutcliffe at 8pm!
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Judge Judy at the minute, Peter Sutcliffe at 8pm!
Sorry Jo, I was asking that Gary character! He seems obsessed with what you are doing. What is judge judy?
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Jimmy savile is now being linked to the Yorkshire Ripper's third victim, irene Richardson, who was found murdered in Roundhay Park near to where savile lived.
savile worked at Broadmoor voluntarily and had the keys so he could come and go as he pleased, savile befriended the Ripper who is a patient at the hospital.
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I should have added that Savile is being suspected by some, of helping the Ripper in some way with this murder, either covering up for him or actualy taking part in it!! Experts have said that Savile would have looked at even more ways to get his "kicks" including murder.
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Richard and Sonia Mccann (Wilma's chilrent, 2 of 4) did a programme about the children the ripper left behind. It was quite sad. Sonia Mccann committed suicide in December 2007, she never got over the death of her mother and had alcohol problems for years.
http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/622475/Peter-Sutcliffe-Yorkshire-Ripper-VIctim-Murder-Daughter-Sonia-Newlands.html
Recently, the son of another of Peter Sutcliffe was on Loook North asking for information about his mother, Irene Richardson.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-leeds-18651202
Even after all these years people continue to suffer for the actions of 'that' man 8(8-))
If i understood it correctly ... Wilma Mccann's daughter commited suicide at the thought and prospect of actually outliving her mother
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Yes, unfortunately so.
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Ive seen videos of Richard Mccann and he is a disturbed person 8(8-)) , but his arguement that the Yorkshire Ripper should never be released is a little bit unnerving for me.
Peter Sutcliffes sentence should be based on his crimes and 'if' he has been rehabilititated and not because someone has a personal grudge against him.
If Richard Mccann has problems beyond that then they should really have been addressed with counselling.
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Ive seen videos of Richard Mccann and he is a disturbed person 8(8-)) , but his arguement that the Yorkshire Ripper should never be released is a little bit unnerving for me.
Peter Sutcliffes sentence should be based on his crimes and 'if' he has been rehabilititated and not because someone has a personal grudge against him.
If Richard Mccann has problems beyond that then they should really have been addressed with counselling.
But Peter Sutcliffe had his whole life tariff re-affirmed in 2010, and one judge said then that the...,
"passage of time does not make the appellant's account at trial (in 1981) of how he came to commit these offences any more likely to be credible now than it was then. There is no reason to conclude that the appellant's claim that he genuinely believed that he was acting under divine instruction to fulfil God's will carries any greater conviction now than it did when it was rejected by the jury."
The cold-bloodied murders of 13 women were truly despicable crimes and I really don't think any woman would feel safe if they had to live near this man if he was freed (even if he was given supervision, anonymity and surgery to change his looks at more ridiculous taxpayer's expense).
I remember the news reports at the time, and how it affected people's psyche... no-one was safe until this maniac was caught.
No... Sutcliffe is quite OK locked up in Broadmoor IMHO... at least we know where he is !
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Ive seen videos of Richard Mccann and he is a disturbed person 8(8-)) , but his arguement that the Yorkshire Ripper should never be released is a little bit unnerving for me.
Peter Sutcliffes sentence should be based on his crimes and 'if' he has been rehabilititated and not because someone has a personal grudge against him.
If Richard Mccann has problems beyond that then they should really have been addressed with counselling.
But Peter Sutcliffe had his whole life tariff re-affirmed in 2010, and one judge said then that the...,
"passage of time does not make the appellant's account at trial (in 1981) of how he came to commit these offences any more likely to be credible now than it was then. There is no reason to conclude that the appellant's claim that he genuinely believed that he was acting under divine instruction to fulfil God's will carries any greater conviction now than it did when it was rejected by the jury."
The cold-bloodied murders of 13 women were truly despicable crimes and I really don't think any woman would feel safe if they had to live near this man if he was freed (even if he was given supervision, anonymity and surgery to change his looks at more ridiculous taxpayer's expense).
I remember the news reports at the time, and how it affected people's psyche... no-one was safe until this maniac was caught.
No... Sutcliffe is quite OK locked up in Broadmoor IMHO... at least we know where he is !
i fully agree