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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #150 on: May 28, 2018, 12:39:32 AM »
Strange how some words are in a bolder font than others in the second photo. http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/P13/13_VOLUME_XIIIa_Page_3910.jpg

Perhaps this note, added by the translator, at the top of one of the other pages explains the problem.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LIZELLE_MARAIS.htm


NOTE: There are several OCR errors in this statement, all created when it was burned to the DVD. I have either made a "best guess" or ignored them, so the translation is not always word-for-word


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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #151 on: May 28, 2018, 06:02:08 AM »
Agreed.

One possibility, which I find plausible, is that DCI Marshall was asked to look over whatever he had in his files, which may have been a half-finished translation or a draft of some kind.

It's not clear what he means by "questionnaire". Was this something separate from the PJ interviews, or was it a term to cover the nature of the PJ statement that might not have corresponded to a typical UK-style interview?

I took it to be the questionnaires sent out by LP to all those who had been in PdL on 3rd May.
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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #152 on: May 28, 2018, 10:36:36 AM »
I took it to be the questionnaires sent out by LP to all those who had been in PdL on 3rd May.

I don't find it clear at all. There are indeed references to "questionnaires" regarding various odd-bods... but the T7?

What access did the UK police have to contact information for "all those who had been in PdL on 3rd May" ? Locals? Holiday-makers? UK holiday-makers? An invitation to those who sent in photos to CEOP?

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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #153 on: May 28, 2018, 10:44:00 AM »
I don't find it clear at all. There are indeed references to "questionnaires" regarding various odd-bods... but the T7?

What access did the UK police have to contact information for "all those who had been in PdL on 3rd May" ? Locals? Holiday-makers? UK holiday-makers? An invitation to those who sent in photos to CEOP?
I think the holiday makers would have supplied home addresses to the travel companies, so on the whole they would have been easy to contact.
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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #154 on: May 28, 2018, 10:45:38 AM »
Perhaps this note, added by the translator, at the top of one of the other pages explains the problem.

http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/LIZELLE_MARAIS.htm


NOTE: There are several OCR errors in this statement, all created when it was burned to the DVD. I have either made a "best guess" or ignored them, so the translation is not always word-for-word


Not sure that it's an OCR problem, but possibly due to a quick scanning process, or else some statements were done on a typewriter, with typos or mistakes whitened out and retyped in the space.

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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #155 on: May 28, 2018, 10:58:50 AM »
I think the holiday makers would have supplied home addresses to the travel companies, so on the whole they would have been easy to contact.

Not everyone present in PDL that day / night would have been on a holiday package, nor even on holiday. That said, even if they managed to send out some questionnaires, I find it to be a good step to take.

My question is whether the T7 would have also received one, when they'd already been interviewed by the PJ.

An alternative is that the UK police described the T7 statements as responses to questionnaires, as the interviews may not have been described as such in a UK context. If that's the case, then my recollection of a couple of statements, half in correct English and half in "raw" form, is possibly all they had to go one.

I could be quite wrong, no idea. Howevder, another reason for thinking that the latter might be the case is that if you look at the translator fee documents in the files, I don't see how they could have covered the supposed volume.

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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #156 on: May 28, 2018, 11:22:57 AM »
I don't find it clear at all. There are indeed references to "questionnaires" regarding various odd-bods... but the T7?

What access did the UK police have to contact information for "all those who had been in PdL on 3rd May" ? Locals? Holiday-makers? UK holiday-makers? An invitation to those who sent in photos to CEOP?

Questionnaires were developed for all UK citizens who were resident in PdL around the time Madeleine went missing. 559 were completed.
http://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/Strategic-debrief-operation-task-2009.pdf

DC Marshall mentioned 'questionnaires' in connection to the Paynes, and DC Gierc confirms that the T7 completed questionnaires;

Jane TANNER's Questionnaire states that she returned to the UK from Praia Da Luz on 17th May 2007. The Additional Family Member Questionnaire, for Russell O'BRIEN, gives his height as 6'6".
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ASSORTED_SIGHTINGS_6.htm

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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #157 on: May 28, 2018, 01:43:36 PM »
Questionnaires were developed for all UK citizens who were resident in PdL around the time Madeleine went missing. 559 were completed.
http://library.college.police.uk/docs/npia/Strategic-debrief-operation-task-2009.pdf

DC Marshall mentioned 'questionnaires' in connection to the Paynes, and DC Gierc confirms that the T7 completed questionnaires;

Jane TANNER's Questionnaire states that she returned to the UK from Praia Da Luz on 17th May 2007. The Additional Family Member Questionnaire, for Russell O'BRIEN, gives his height as 6'6".
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/ASSORTED_SIGHTINGS_6.htm

Thanks. Just found the mention of your paraphrased cite on p. 8. It states UK citizens who were resident. Would that include 1-2 week holiday-makers? Or UK resident ex-pats and those with holiday homes?

The wording doesn't correspond to questionnaires sent to everyone in PDL that day / night, which was my initial query re your comment.

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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #158 on: May 28, 2018, 01:50:26 PM »
Thanks. Just found the mention of your paraphrased cite on p. 8. It states UK citizens who were resident. Would that include 1-2 week holiday-makers? Or UK resident ex-pats and those with holiday homes?

The wording doesn't correspond to questionnaires sent to everyone in PDL that day / night, which was my initial query re your comment.

Not really surprising if it was issued by UK police and related only to UK citizens
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Re: Tennis timeline
« Reply #159 on: May 28, 2018, 02:07:05 PM »
Thanks. Just found the mention of your paraphrased cite on p. 8. It states UK citizens who were resident. Would that include 1-2 week holiday-makers? Or UK resident ex-pats and those with holiday homes?

The wording doesn't correspond to questionnaires sent to everyone in PDL that day / night, which was my initial query re your comment.

The word 'resident' was used by the UK police, so I can't say who they were referring to. However, if the Paynes and O'Briens had questionnaires we can assume that all Mark Warner guests received them. Only the police could tell you who else got them.
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